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Vendzilla 08-08-2023 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 23163718)
GFY needs to expand way past the adult industry. There should be a forum for cars, for movies, for tech, for every single category out there... And then promote it to all kinds of people.

Not the right domain for that

$5 submissions 08-08-2023 07:13 PM

GFY is still alive because it REFUSED to change

Sadly, when marketing forums change, they usually end up dying.

DP changed, they are dead.

WaFo changed, they are dead.

WiFi changed, they are dead.

BHW is still alive because the changes they deploy seek to enhance users' existing experience instead of a radically new model.

plsureking 08-08-2023 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 23163633)
If you haven't noticed, I've not been posting a pretty long time.
I've already given the details.
What's funny is you just proved my point, you work hard on this, so it must be worth it.
And you're doing it without a 3 letter domain and the help of all the people of GFY.

nah fam, the profit is probably important too don't you think? you can't make money on model fan sites because the margin is razor thin.

i made about $3 an hour on that project.

the thing you aren't seeing is gfy does not attract models. its not avn. there's 3 regular models here. it also does not attract fans. that's two uphill battles no one around here wants to fight for gfy.

your entire business plan is based on the 3-letter domain. you keep bringing it up, but its just a domain. there's many failed 3-letter domains.

a successful online biz takes a team working thousands of hours. you must think it will be a volunteer army? where's your investment?

i'm not being negative, i'm being realistic. someone will have to build and manage this thing while you're staring out of a windshield all day.

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Huggles 08-08-2023 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 23163718)
GFY needs to expand way past the adult industry. There should be a forum for cars, for movies, for tech, for every single category out there... And then promote it to all kinds of people.

Would be cool if GFY expanded and did some new stuff.

plsureking 08-08-2023 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Huggles (Post 23163808)
Would be cool if GFY expanded and did some new stuff.

they did a lot more when the industry was excessively profitable. gfy awards, free sweatshirts and hats, etc. this front page would cycle 3-4 times a day.

one thing i'd enjoy is more video conferences. the ynot conference during rona was cool. most of us are working in the dark coding shit. its fun to see other webmasters and talk about webmaster shit.

that's the audience here. its not models.

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Vendzilla 08-09-2023 05:01 AM

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Originally Posted by plsureking (Post 23163806)
nah fam, the profit is probably important too don't you think? you can't make money on model fan sites because the margin is razor thin.

i made about $3 an hour on that project.

the thing you aren't seeing is gfy does not attract models. its not avn. there's 3 regular models here. it also does not attract fans. that's two uphill battles no one around here wants to fight for gfy.

your entire business plan is based on the 3-letter domain. you keep bringing it up, but its just a domain. there's many failed 3-letter domains.

a successful online biz takes a team working thousands of hours. you must think it will be a volunteer army? where's your investment?

i'm not being negative, i'm being realistic. someone will have to build and manage this thing while you're staring out of a windshield all day.

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As GFY sits now, yes it doesn't attract models. Why it would need rebranding separate from the forum.
The current state of affairs where we have a president that's known by three letters, FJB , proves yes you can promote a three letter domain differently than just a domain.
You're thinking in the box, throw out the box.

plsureking 08-09-2023 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 23163894)
As GFY sits now, yes it doesn't attract models. Why it would need rebranding separate from the forum.
The current state of affairs where we have a president that's known by three letters, FJB , proves yes you can promote a three letter domain differently than just a domain.
You're thinking in the box, throw out the box.

yea i mean its not my domain, which is the only part of this thing you see holding value. i guess try to buy it then and do your own thing? you can have the whole fucking box :1orglaugh

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CaptainHowdy 08-09-2023 06:32 AM

We're stubborn . . .

Vendzilla 08-09-2023 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy (Post 23163933)
We're stubborn . . .

Yep, we are. How are you brother?

Vendzilla 08-09-2023 07:17 AM

https://www.facebook.com/reel/768153...ibextid=Nif5oz

dcortez 08-09-2023 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by TheLegacy (Post 23163344)
What forum? This is more like child care

Spot on!! :1orglaugh

(at least it too often seems that way).

Evil Chris 08-09-2023 10:03 AM

Solid idea Vendzilla.

adultinnovation 08-09-2023 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 23163316)
I see the complaint all the time about the industry changing,

anyone who was involved in this industry in the early 2000's knows this industry died a very long time ago

you're all just fighting over some left over scraps

Vendzilla 08-09-2023 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by adultinnovation (Post 23164025)
anyone who was involved in this industry in the early 2000's knows this industry died a very long time ago

you're all just fighting over some left over scraps

The industry is always changing, you have to adapt and overcome as my stepfather would say all the time, yes he was a Marine.
This isn't about the adult webmaster industry, this is about using two outrageous domains for more than a redirect.
Let's say we got gofuckyourself clothing line running and got a couple rappers to wear them in a video. How many people would want GFY swag.
Then instead of just using GFY.com as a redirect, put it to work and develop social media for adults only, an onlyfans style plugin so models have a direct line to clients.
Make it so they have to spend $1 on a credit card to join to keep all the Karen's from complaining and then we can track users. If they misbehave, they can be effectively banned. Yes they can do that.
I could go on and on about it, but letting those great domains sit as a redirect is a waste.

Vendzilla 08-09-2023 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Evil Chris (Post 23164020)
Solid idea Vendzilla.

Thanks, way back when I was with Playboy I asked why sex.com didn't become a social media site.

Huggles 08-09-2023 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by adultinnovation (Post 23164025)
anyone who was involved in this industry in the early 2000's knows this industry died a very long time ago

you're all just fighting over some left over scraps


I was doing well up until the mid 2010's... then when my kid was born and I quit doing cocaine, I found it hard to want to sell porn! I swear, I lost the edge and interest in selling porn.

Got it back now after the NIGHTMARE of fucking COVID in Canada... goddamn... I could never work for someone else anymore. At any time they could bring back the "vaccine pass" and I could be fired from my jobs, again.

Vendzilla 08-09-2023 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Huggles (Post 23164062)
I was doing well up until the mid 2010's... then when my kid was born and I quit doing cocaine, I found it hard to want to sell porn! I swear, I lost the edge and interest in selling porn.

Got it back now after the NIGHTMARE of fucking COVID in Canada... goddamn... I could never work for someone else anymore. At any time they could bring back the "vaccine pass" and I could be fired from my jobs, again.

Being a trucker protected me from the same bullshit, being an owner operator makes it pretty hard to get fired.
I literally can't run out of work because I deliver food.

CaptainHowdy 08-09-2023 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 23163935)
Yep, we are. How are you brother?

Like a frog in a dry well as usual, my friend.

I remember that many members where summoned (I bet you as well) when the new GFY administration took over and nothing happened after that.

fastball 08-09-2023 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 23163348)
Yeah, I miss Mark aka (Texas Dreams)
He made all this fun. He wouldn't have tolerated a lot of the bullshit going on.
Still remember him saying in the office for his birthday, " no one better be giving me any fucking balloons"
So I got him balloons, tied to a bottle of Jack Daniels, he was ok with that!

Or is it because there are so many people here now that are not in the industry and driving trucks and such? Just sayin'.

Vendzilla 08-09-2023 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by fastball (Post 23164096)
Or is it because there are so many people here now that are not in the industry and driving trucks and such? Just sayin'.

I have two websites (mainstream) in production, GFY has a mainstream section. Never assume , you'll probably get it wrong

Vendzilla 08-09-2023 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy (Post 23164094)
Like a frog in a dry well as usual, my friend.

I remember that many members where summoned (I bet you as well) when the new GFY administration took over and nothing happened after that.

I was never summoned, but rarely read the emails from the address they have. I came back on my own accord and saw that nothing, literally nothing had changed.

CaptainHowdy 08-09-2023 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 23164130)
I was never summoned, but rarely read the emails from the address they have. I came back on my own accord and saw that nothing, literally nothing had changed.

Guess they summoned those who had no idea what to do with the board (such as myself) . . .

Huggles 08-09-2023 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy (Post 23164149)
Guess they summoned those who had no idea what to do with the board (such as myself) . . .


Who do we thank for this board even EXISTING in 2023?

sarettah 08-09-2023 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by huggles (Post 23164154)
who do we thank for this board even existing in 2023?

xanadu..

INever 08-09-2023 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Huggles (Post 23163448)
you could confidently do business with people and trust them.

a bunch of clueless cowards.

Trust went out the window with the 2008 flash crash.

Giving business advice I just told a Canadian to "do your own thing".

He replied, "what does 'do your own thing' mean?"

Vendzilla 08-10-2023 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by INever (Post 23164196)
Trust went out the window with the 2008 flash crash.

Giving business advice I just told a Canadian to "do your own thing".

He replied, "what does 'do your own thing' mean?"

That's pretty sad

Vendzilla 08-10-2023 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy (Post 23164149)
Guess they summoned those who had no idea what to do with the board (such as myself) . . .

Some of what I propose actually comes from things they were talking about while Texas Dreams was running the show.
The board software actually has some social media plug-ins available.

celandina 08-10-2023 07:12 AM

"Do not fix what ain't broken" :2 cents:

2MuchMark 08-10-2023 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Manfap (Post 23163437)
Business advice coming from someone who had to give up in the business and drive a truck.

:thumbsup:1orglaugh:thumbsup

2MuchMark 08-10-2023 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 23163528)
Chances are, I live in a bigger house than you do,

The fact that you have to brag about that says alot about you.

2MuchMark 08-10-2023 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 23163681)
I have some cool projects that I'm working on at home, one is a 1958 Chrysler Imperial with a 392 hemi in it. It only has 14,000 miles on the odometer and it's a fucking boat of a car that has all the luxury of the time.

You should make it a cool car by convert it into an EV.

fastball 08-10-2023 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Evil Chris (Post 23164020)
Solid idea Vendzilla.

Yeah worked so well for him. So are you going to buy a truck Evil?

plsureking 08-11-2023 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by fastball (Post 23164407)
Yeah worked so well for him. So are you going to buy a truck Evil?

i gave the only practical real world response in the thread, based on over a thousand hours of experience, and all the dude can do is insult. ideas do expire. he should stick to cargo transport. seems like he's better at it. everybody gave respect for that choice. :2 cents:

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Vendzilla 08-11-2023 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by plsureking (Post 23164571)
i gave the only practical real world response in the thread, based on over a thousand hours of experience, and all the dude can do is insult. ideas do expire. he should stick to cargo transport. seems like he's better at it. everybody gave respect for that choice. :2 cents:

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No what you gave me was negativity. No vision, just negativity.

Vendzilla 08-11-2023 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by fastball (Post 23164407)
Yeah worked so well for him. So are you going to buy a truck Evil?

So exactly why are you called fastball, is it because of the blow you took to your head?

plsureking 08-11-2023 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 23164651)
No what you gave me was negativity. No vision, just negativity.

people see what they project i guess :thumbsup

its all good. i just posted some experience based feedback. who needs that negative bullshit?

you do you g. even bathin apes had their day. maybe you can bring that back too :1orglaugh



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fastball 08-11-2023 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 23164653)
So exactly why are you called fastball, is it because of the blow you took to your head?

Huh?.......

AmeliaG 08-11-2023 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by plsureking (Post 23163806)
nah fam, the profit is probably important too don't you think? you can't make money on model fan sites because the margin is razor thin.

i made about $3 an hour on that project.

the thing you aren't seeing is gfy does not attract models. its not avn. there's 3 regular models here. it also does not attract fans. that's two uphill battles no one around here wants to fight for gfy.

your entire business plan is based on the 3-letter domain. you keep bringing it up, but its just a domain. there's many failed 3-letter domains.

a successful online biz takes a team working thousands of hours. you must think it will be a volunteer army? where's your investment?

i'm not being negative, i'm being realistic. someone will have to build and manage this thing while you're staring out of a windshield all day.

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That is interesting. What makes the margins so thin? Are the needed tasks challenging to find affordable outsource workers who can do them?

2MuchMark 08-11-2023 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by $5 submissions (Post 23163759)
GFY is still alive because it REFUSED to change

Sadly, when marketing forums change, they usually end up dying.

DP changed, they are dead.

WaFo changed, they are dead.

WiFi changed, they are dead.

BHW is still alive because the changes they deploy seek to enhance users' existing experience instead of a radically new model.

^^* this ^^^

2MuchMark 08-11-2023 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 23164653)
So exactly why are you called fastball, is it because of the blow you took to your head?

How witty you are. Time for your nap vendildo.

baddog 08-11-2023 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by fastball (Post 23164718)
Huh?.......

Question answered

Vendzilla 08-11-2023 05:30 PM

If you start with branding a clothing line, jumping over to getting models would be easy due to the media buzz.
Could you imagine Ted Nugent , Kid Rock or Tom Macdonald wearing a hoodie on stage?
Or any number of celebrities that want partner up

Huggles 08-11-2023 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 23164835)
If you start with branding a clothing line, jumping over to getting models would be easy due to the media buzz.
Could you imagine Ted Nugent , Kid Rock or Tom Macdonald wearing a hoodie on stage?
Or any number of celebrities that want partner up


Man, people are so mean to you, but you are 100% right.

GFY could be a massive brand.

Especially in 2023 where more and more people are like "I don't give a fuuuuuuuuck!"

plsureking 08-11-2023 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by AmeliaG (Post 23164789)
That is interesting. What makes the margins so thin? Are the needed tasks challenging to find affordable outsource workers who can do them?

yea i think it requires higher level talent to run any site competing with OF.

the models have to stay engaged and adding content. verification is pretty easy these days. its the onboarding and continuous engagement that takes daily work. your average outsourced 3rd worlder can't do that work. they can barely do Amazon returns.

model engagement is in addition to daily traffic work. that part can be outsourced if it doesn't take too much brainwork. then you trade time for cost, which increases daily.

OF has many issues, but traffic and engagement aren't on the list. we're out of the sandbox now with fan sites, which means it takes a decent size team and budget to pull it off.

small biz in this industry always has to be looking at the next thing. get in early before the behemoths buy or destroy the market. then get out.

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sonofsam 08-12-2023 04:03 AM

Thinking starting a clothing line with the words "Go Fuck Yourself" is a great business idea, and putting so much value on a 3 letter domain is peak stupidity.

Not trying to be mean, but maybe you should listen to that guy who tried explaining to you how dumb of an idea it is. He had more patience trying to get through to you than most people would have.

1. Who is your target demographic, if they want to wear clothing that says "Go Fuck Yourself" on it? Edgy 13 year old kids, and people who live in trailer parks. Not exactly people who will be spending a lot of money.

2. Turn GFY into onlyfans? I don't think I've heard a dumber idea on this forum, and that's really saying a lot.

3. Having a 3 letter domain and an idea is not easy street to money. Everyone has a million ideas. Ideas are worth exactly ZERO. It's all about execution. You can become a millionaire today starting a business like cleaning if you can execute properly. Not everything has to be a novel tech idea.

I don't even know why I'm writing this. It's such a stupid idea it doesn't even warrant an explanation about why it's stupid.

shimmy2 08-12-2023 04:25 AM

when you attend a show, shoot house, or any industry gathering with younger crowd OF generation etc, you realize how much of a dinosaur paysite owner/operators are. and if youre from the era of DVDs and buying DV tapes to film these new cats think youre like moses. then you realize these lil jits have such a shaky business model its scary, theyre totally co dependent on other no name amateurs in their category and have no star power or following outside of fan/social platorms. we're old i get that, but at least 90s adult folks see whtas going down

Vendzilla 08-12-2023 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Huggles (Post 23164855)
Man, people are so mean to you, but you are 100% right.

GFY could be a massive brand.

Especially in 2023 where more and more people are like "I don't give a fuuuuuuuuck!"

Where the president is known as "FJB"

And yeah, they're mean to me, but I know in person they wouldn't have the balls to say what they will say here and it's better to just accept that.
Mind over matter, I don't mind because they don't matter.

NoWhErE 08-12-2023 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by sonofsam (Post 23164955)
Thinking starting a clothing line with the words "Go Fuck Yourself" is a great business idea, and putting so much value on a 3 letter domain is peak stupidity.

Not trying to be mean, but maybe you should listen to that guy who tried explaining to you how dumb of an idea it is. He had more patience trying to get through to you than most people would have.

1. Who is your target demographic, if they want to wear clothing that says "Go Fuck Yourself" on it? Edgy 13 year old kids, and people who live in trailer parks. Not exactly people who will be spending a lot of money.

2. Turn GFY into onlyfans? I don't think I've heard a dumber idea on this forum, and that's really saying a lot.

3. Having a 3 letter domain and an idea is not easy street to money. Everyone has a million ideas. Ideas are worth exactly ZERO. It's all about execution. You can become a millionaire today starting a business like cleaning if you can execute properly. Not everything has to be a novel tech idea.

I don't even know why I'm writing this. It's such a stupid idea it doesn't even warrant an explanation about why it's stupid.

Its monumentally stupid but its a good “idea” when you have no actualy practial experience building a huge project.

If 3 letter domains and easily brandable names were a huge key to success,
Sex.com, porn.com, etc etc would be huge success stories. Yet none of them are?

Is it because of “lack of vision” or “imagination”?

No. Ifs because pulling off a successful brand or social media site is way fucking harder than just having a good name and having a few rappers promote you.

NoWhErE 08-12-2023 07:11 AM

This is the meme version of the proposed business plan:
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/...72/078/d6d.jpg

Vendzilla 08-12-2023 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by NoWhErE (Post 23164976)
Its monumentally stupid but its a good “idea” when you have no actualy practial experience building a huge project.

If 3 letter domains and easily brandable names were a huge key to success,
Sex.com, porn.com, etc etc would be huge success stories. Yet none of them are?

Is it because of “lack of vision” or “imagination”?

No. Ifs because pulling off a successful brand or social media site is way fucking harder than just having a good name and having a few rappers promote you.

Actually I have experience in huge projects.
Sex.com and Porn.com focus on just porn, and porn on the internet is free.
You clearly are lacking


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