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O MARINA 10-02-2023 08:11 AM

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O MARINA 10-02-2023 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by NoWhErE (Post 23183085)
Thanks for the mention :) I was unaware people even noticed my posts lol

Hello NoWhErE!
I did notice some of your posts, it was very random :1orglaugh.
Wautier has great style and replies around here sharing his wisdom in this THREAD and always. Fuzebox posts over the years he is knowledgeable and no drama and understands both Networks & Affiliate side. It would not be a bad idea, GFY Gods can make it a happen.


A Supreme, Assistant Moderator Committee 2 Canadians and Wautier. The point is to be fair!

O MARINA 10-02-2023 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 23183091)
Don't be getting all full of yourself now

Exactly :1orglaugh

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Originally Posted by NoWhErE (Post 23183109)
You're the first one I'm going to ban when I take over this board!
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:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

2MuchMark 10-02-2023 09:21 AM

How is Baddog doing? Anyone know? Poor lil'feller....

O MARINA 10-02-2023 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker (Post 23181349)
Meanwhile, in canada…



The Canadian Government will begin to regulate streaming services that broadcast podcasts.

On Friday, September 29, the Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission (CRTC) announced a new “regulatory plan” for streaming services that operate in Canada, that earn $10,000,000 annually or more and offer broadcast content (podcasts).
However, critics say this new measure actually seeks to restrict freedom of expression and silence the few remaining dissident voices in Canada.

NoWhErE 10-02-2023 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by O MARINA (Post 23183710)
Hello NoWhErE!
I did notice some of your posts, it was very random :1orglaugh.
Wautier has great style and replies around here sharing his wisdom in this THREAD and always. Fuzebox posts over the years he is knowledgeable and no drama and understands both Networks & Affiliate side. It would not be a bad idea, GFY Gods can make it a happen.


A Supreme, Assistant Moderator Committee 2 Canadians and Wautier. The point is to be fair!

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O MARINA 10-02-2023 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by NoWhErE (Post 23183761)



What's the word Mister NoWhErE & your decision!?
So would you unban him or ban? If so, why...

I remember the days of Franck beefing here w/ Polish Aristocrat.. all kinds of classic threads views and business! These nicknames/people come and go of course and many people are banned over the years. Baddog is not a fake nick. Personally I don't have any issues with Baddog, he played a unique role of being the industry photographer along side JFK and Michael. He is not affiliated with the Advertisers, Content or Traffic programs, does not compete with Affiliates does not cause any harm. Seems like the issue here is difference of opinions between people or industry friends. I don't think he actually created drama enough for Advertisers to stop paying. The board is a lot slower these days and this thread brought out many old school names out and many opinions from active ones!

GFY must have a long list of blocked users, how many ?

Killswitch 10-02-2023 11:09 AM

I don't think his ban should be permanent. Definitly deserves a timeout for saying racist shit. Doesn't matter if it's harmful or not in one's eyes. It's 2023, being a racist is not good, either keep it to yourself or adjust your shitty views.

King Mark 10-02-2023 11:21 AM

There is scientifically really only one human race left, so I say we get rid of the word "racist", as it's being used incorrectly.

I propose the word "Genetic Clusterist", which is actually the only scientifically correct term to describe being a delusional colortard.

NoWhErE 10-02-2023 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by O MARINA (Post 23183770)
What's the word Mister NoWhErE & your decision!?
So would you unban him or ban? If so, why...

I remember the days of Franck beefing here w/ Polish Aristocrat.. all kinds of classic threads views and business! These nicknames/people come and go of course and many people are banned over the years. Baddog is not a fake nick. Personally I don't have any issues with Baddog, he played a unique role of being the industry photographer along side JFK and Michael. He is not affiliated with the Advertisers, Content or Traffic programs, does not compete with Affiliates does not cause any harm. Seems like the issue here is difference of opinions between people or industry friends. I don't think he actually created drama enough for Advertisers to stop paying. The board is a lot slower these days and this thread brought out many old school names out and many opinions from active ones!

GFY must have a long list of blocked users, how many ?

It's difficult to weigh in because I'm not privy to everything that has happened, and discussed and to how the GFY mods set + apply their rules.

I don't know to what extent Baddog went to deserve the latest ban.

I do know he has harassed (at least one) member of the industry outside of the boards. Also, if you look at his post history in the past few months, you may notice a steady decline in the quality of his posts to a point where it's debatable if he crossed the line between trolling by playing the character of a grumpy old man to exhibiting outright toxic behaviour.

Taking that into consideration; I can understand why the decision to remove him from this community was made.

Would I make the same decision? I don't know because I don't have all of the facts at my disposal.

sonofsam 10-02-2023 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by NoWhErE (Post 23183793)
It's difficult to weigh in because I'm not privy to everything that has happened, and discussed and to how the GFY mods set + apply their rules.

I don't know to what extent Baddog went to deserve the latest ban.

I do know he has harassed (at least one) member of the industry outside of the boards. Also, if you look at his post history in the past few months, you may notice a steady decline in the quality of his posts to a point where it's debatable if he crossed the line between trolling by playing the character of a grumpy old man to exhibiting outright toxic behaviour.

Taking that into consideration; I can understand why the decision to remove him from this community was made.

Would I make the same decision? I don't know because I don't have all of the facts at my disposal.

I think he's always been unhinged and racist, but he put up a semi-front

JesseQuinn 10-02-2023 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by King Mark (Post 23183782)
There is scientifically really only one human race left, so I say we get rid of the word "racist", as it's being used incorrectly.

I propose the word "Genetic Clusterist", which is actually the only scientifically correct term to describe being a delusional colortard.

I get where you're coming from but to me, the problem with your phrase is that it doesn't address the fact that different 'clusters' have had, and continue to have, patterns of differential experiences that are related to skin shade and access to wealth

I like the word reify. basically means something does not actual exist but is real in practice/consequences

that's why I personally always use 'social race', to recognize that skin colour and econ status are how those inclined towards bias tend to select their biases. intellectually lazy and it's easy to do. and not just a white people thing

ignorant, scared of others and absent imagination to fathom any life beyond their own milieu

as to what to call them when they act out? bigot is nice old-fashioned term that fits the bill to me. yours is cool, just has some gaps in encompassing the issues I think



as to baddog, I have no opinion, nor should I as on any board other than gfy you'd get banned for questioning a mod's choices

I was more Klen style when I was mod of a pretty big board, peeps had an issue I'd rather discuss it than clamp down on critique. I listened, I explained as much as I could, but never once did I change a well-thought out decision I made, in conjunction with co-mods. not sure about here but most boards with a mod team don't ban 'real' members (as in, not spammers or fake nics), without team collaboration


Baddog wasn't banned for racism this time, I don't think, unless I missed something new which is entirely possible. for his racial slur he'd already served his time for that, and came back in a snit acting to me very much like someone cranky who decided to shit all over everything he saw thwarting his 'right' to act like a snark posting reactionary one-liners in a place that was a lil out of his sea depth in terms of maintaining composure

no one in the basement maintains composure, but there's still a level of trying to convey a point. no matter how insane that point is

part of the charm down there. he totally lost the plot on that, just was a surly snarky man on his way to prob getting banned again for something he'd eventually say. if you look at his posting trajectory (not that I have in depth, and won't, just saw him around down there) it's been downhill for a while

he needed a rest, Klen et al gave him one by blocking him from our playroom for the insane

and then he started a thread titled 'attention advertisers' warning about spending money here cuz he couldn't post in the basement

how much of the mod's time is supposed to be spent managing his issues?


I doubt it's a perma, I bet he'll be back


I have had so many wicked friends banned here and we didn't cry or muss or fuss. lots of writing in my tear-stained diary and eating ice cream in the dark but we made it through

all y'all who are his friends, you have other contact methods, no? jeez, just wait it out

OneHungLo 10-02-2023 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by King Mark (Post 23183782)
There is scientifically really only one human race left, so I say we get rid of the word "racist", as it's being used incorrectly.

I propose the word "Genetic Clusterist", which is actually the only scientifically correct term to describe being a delusional colortard.

Fill me in; are you saying Whites are somehow inferior to you?

AmeliaG 10-02-2023 02:59 PM

Wow, I don't log in for a few weeks and wtf?

So did baddog, after decades as a good community member, get banned because someone else photoshopped a confederate flag onto a photo of him? I hope I read that wrong.

J. Falcon 10-02-2023 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by AmeliaG (Post 23183882)
Wow, I don't log in for a few weeks and wtf?

So did baddog, after decades as a good community member, get banned because someone else photoshopped a confederate flag onto a photo of him? I hope I read that wrong.

No, that's not what happened.

Mr Pheer 10-02-2023 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by AmeliaG (Post 23183882)
Wow, I don't log in for a few weeks and wtf?

So did baddog, after decades as a good community member, get banned because someone else photoshopped a confederate flag onto a photo of him? I hope I read that wrong.

That was just a small part. A few of the regular clowns kept sparring with him and then they started getting nasty about his age, so he fired back about one's ethnicity and then the clowns ran with it. But they don't see it that way, of course. The only see what he did, not what caused the reaction.

In short, the politics forum is toxic and so are some of the creatures that dwell in it :2 cents:

sonofsam 10-02-2023 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Pheer (Post 23183928)
That was just a small part. A few of the regular clowns kept sparring with him and then they started getting nasty about his age, so he fired back about one's ethnicity and then the clowns ran with it. But they don't see it that way, of course. The only see what he did, not what caused the reaction.

In short, the politics forum is toxic and so are some of the creatures that dwell in it :2 cents:

Your girlfriend baddog was one of the most active posters in that forum :1orglaugh

Killswitch 10-02-2023 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Pheer (Post 23183928)
In short, the politics forum is toxic and so are some of the creatures that dwell in it :2 cents:

Anyone who posts in that forum more than 3 times a day should be put on a temp ban every time they go over that limit.

What a fucking clusterfuck of retards

J. Falcon 10-02-2023 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Pheer (Post 23183928)
That was just a small part. A few of the regular clowns kept sparring with him and then they started getting nasty about his age, so he fired back about one's ethnicity and then the clowns ran with it. But they don't see it that way, of course. The only see what he did, not what caused the reaction.

In short, the politics forum is toxic and so are some of the creatures that dwell in it :2 cents:

Yeah, that's not what happened either. Not even close.

O MARINA 10-02-2023 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Pheer (Post 23183928)

In short, the politics forum is toxic and so are some of the creatures that dwell in it :2 cents:


The world changed.. especially life in the last 3 years, everyone has lost their minds.
It's 2023 people are emotional.

Mr Pheer 10-02-2023 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 23183973)
Yeah, that's not what happened either. Not even close.

I don't read the majority of the posts there as all that Trump vs Biden and right vs left doesn't apply to me much, so maybe I've missed something. But what I stated is based on what I've seen.

plsureking 10-02-2023 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by JesseQuinn (Post 23183847)
I get where you're coming from but to me, the problem with your phrase is that it doesn't address the fact that different 'clusters' have had, and continue to have, patterns of differential experiences that are related to skin shade and access to wealth

almost didn't touch the long prose until i saw the author lol. i'll only read more than a para from a few people here.

economics based on race is obvious in developing countries. not so much in the US tho. the poorest in the US are rich compared to the poor in most other countries. for now.

the weird thing about fighting over skin color is you have continents like Asia, where everybody has the same skin color, but there's racism in every household. Africa is the same way. villages hate the fuck out of each other.

so it aint the skin. its the people.



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2MuchMark 10-02-2023 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Pheer (Post 23183994)
I don't read the majority of the posts there as all that Trump vs Biden and right vs left doesn't apply to me much, so maybe I've missed something. But what I stated is based on what I've seen.

Dumbdog took a break from his racist name-calling and went after Klen with posts that would at best made Klen's job harder, and at worst disrupt GFY's cashflow.

Let's face it - Klen puts up with alot of shit by alot of people who constantly get too close to crossing the line (not me tho... ;), so I don't blame him one bit for deciding that enough was enough and finally banning the guy.

Mr Pheer 10-02-2023 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 23184006)
alot of people who constantly get too close to crossing the line (not me tho... ;)

Yeah not you. I did a quick search and this was the first result.

https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-b...guess-gfy.html

So your history goes back at least 8 years of doing this. But not you though, you wouldn't do that...

King Mark 10-03-2023 04:13 AM

As long as Baddog been harassing Rochard, if anybody returned the favor back to him he should have had thicker skin about it.

If you can't handle it back, just be a peaceful old man. People will hold the door open for you, help you with your groceries, help you change your diaper and shit like that... instead of return-roasting you into a self destructive meltdown.

J. Falcon 10-03-2023 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Pheer (Post 23183994)
I don't read the majority of the posts there as all that Trump vs Biden and right vs left doesn't apply to me much, so maybe I've missed something. But what I stated is based on what I've seen.

Baddog is an asshole. He's an asshole to people who make fun of him for his age, and he's an asshole to people he simply disagrees with, too. He constantly uses racist, bigoted and xenophobic remarks because (1) he's a bigot and (2) it's easy.

So, as you know, one day he went too far and used the term "Spic" and got rightfully banned. That's not Baddog getting banned for expressing his "opinion." He broke the rules and got banned. End of story.

When he came back, he started using sp*c or splc or something else really stupid, thinking he was being funny. In fact, he was just copying the other right-wing morons who are just as racist and bigoted. He continued being an asshole, attacking people at random, and just being himself, except worse.

Anyway, I'm not sure exactly what happened, but Klen decided to lock him out of the Politics section. This made Baddog unhinged and he lost it. First, he started a thread complaining about discrimination (mind you, Baddog had been complaining about discrimination on GFY and XBIZ for a while now, but this drove him over the edge) and this got a lot of attention. Klen said he had locked Baddog out of Politics because it was bad for his stress. Not sure what that was about, but we all got a good laugh.

This probably made Baddog angrier and more unhinged. He then started a thread "warning" advertisers about doing business with Klen and GFY, due to said discrimination. Basically painting himself as a victim and taking zero blame for anything. That earned Baddog his second rightful ban.

Major (Tom) 10-04-2023 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 23184069)
Baddog is an asshole. He's an asshole to people who make fun of him for his age, and he's an asshole to people he simply disagrees with, too. He constantly uses racist, bigoted and xenophobic remarks because (1) he's a bigot and (2) it's easy.

So, as you know, one day he went too far and used the term "Spic" and got rightfully banned. That's not Baddog getting banned for expressing his "opinion." He broke the rules and got banned. End of story.

When he came back, he started using sp*c or splc or something else really stupid, thinking he was being funny. In fact, he was just copying the other right-wing morons who are just as racist and bigoted. He continued being an asshole, attacking people at random, and just being himself, except worse.

Anyway, I'm not sure exactly what happened, but Klen decided to lock him out of the Politics section. This made Baddog unhinged and he lost it. First, he started a thread complaining about discrimination (mind you, Baddog had been complaining about discrimination on GFY and XBIZ for a while now, but this drove him over the edge) and this got a lot of attention. Klen said he had locked Baddog out of Politics because it was bad for his stress. Not sure what that was about, but we all got a good laugh.

This probably made Baddog angrier and more unhinged. He then started a thread "warning" advertisers about doing business with Klen and GFY, due to said discrimination. Basically painting himself as a victim and taking zero blame for anything. That earned Baddog his second rightful ban.

The intersectional stack has that particular slur ranking pretty low—slightly above white trash and honkey. The diaspora of hispanics includes caucasians. It’s not a slur like the N word. If he banned baddog for that, hopefully klen in enforcing slurs against caucasians, too. Kang was given a seat for that.

Major (Tom) 10-04-2023 01:08 PM

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Victim – “Poor me.”
Victims often feel victimised, trapped, helpless and hopeless. They think they are at the mercy of life. They are unwilling to take responsibility for their undesirable circumstances and don’t think they have the power to change their lives.
Victims assume themselves as powerless or incompetent and blame on Persecutors (can be other people or a particular situation). They always seek for Rescuers to solve the problem for them. If the Victims continue to stay in the ‘dejected’ stance, it will prevent them from making decisions, solving problems, changing the current state, or sensing any satisfaction or achievement.
Rescuer – “Let me help you.”
Rescuers constantly intervene on behalf of the Victims and try to save Victims from perceived harm. They feel guilty of standing by and ‘watching people drown’.
Rescuers may have all the good intention and strive to ‘help’ other people as they see necessary. They fail to realise that by offering short-term fixes to Victims, they keep Victims dependent and neglect their own needs. This is why Rescuers often find themselves pressured, tired, and may not have time to finish their own tasks, as they are busy fire-fighting for the Victims as they arise!
Persecutor – “It’s all your fault.”
Persecutors are like ‘Critical Parents’ who are strict and firm and set boundaries. They tend to think that they must win at any cost.
Persecutors blame the Victims and criticize the behaviour of Rescuers, without providing appropriate guidance, assistance or a solution to the problem. They are critical and good at finding fault, and control with order and rigidity. They keep the Victims oppressed and sometimes can be a bully.


Are you a Victim, Rescuer, or Persecutor?
Now you are aware of the Drama Triangle and the roles in the triangular setting. So are you a victim, a rescuer, or a persecutor?
If you’re human, chances are you may see yourself or be seen by others, as all three in different scenarios.
It is important to point out that the players in the Drama Triangle may switch roles during a mind game, and if anyone in this triangle changes roles, the other two roles change as well.

Evil Chris 10-04-2023 01:32 PM

I don't have time to read this entire story.

CaptainHowdy 10-04-2023 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Evil Chris (Post 23184802)
I don't have time to read this entire story.

Politics - the death knell of the board.

plsureking 10-04-2023 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy (Post 23184808)
Politics - the death knell of the board.

eh i dunno, it probably keeps some people active who would otherwise not visit. politics is all over social media. people can't get enough of that bullshit. i'm glad they keep it in a separate forum.

lately i'm wondering why they haven't moved gfy to a discord channel. i guess people like reading and writing long boring posts :1orglaugh

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AmeliaG 10-04-2023 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker (Post 23184782)
The intersectional stack has that particular slur ranking pretty low—slightly above white trash and honkey. The diaspora of hispanics includes caucasians. It’s not a slur like the N word. If he banned baddog for that, hopefully klen in enforcing slurs against caucasians, too. Kang was given a seat for that.


When I was in undergrad, one of my two thesis advisors had to step down as Dean of Social Sciences because he used the word honky in conversation with another professor. He had tenure and remained a professor, but lost his deanship.

Also, the movie PCU is literally based on where I got my undergraduate education.

I personally believe nobody should use any of those terms, and have always believed nobody should use any of those terms, but the uneven enforcement of everything relating to political stance, pretty much across the internet, is ... let's call it disappointing. I am disappointed in humanity.

Than again, I looooooooooove that there is a Politics section here and I can just choose not to visit it. If I were locked out, I'd never know.

Major (Tom) 10-05-2023 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by AmeliaG (Post 23184914)
When I was in undergrad, one of my two thesis advisors had to step down as Dean of Social Sciences because he used the word honky in conversation with another professor. He had tenure and remained a professor, but lost his deanship.

Also, the movie PCU is literally based on where I got my undergraduate education.

I personally believe nobody should use any of those terms, and have always believed nobody should use any of those terms, but the uneven enforcement of everything relating to political stance, pretty much across the internet, is ... let's call it disappointing. I am disappointed in humanity.

Than again, I looooooooooove that there is a Politics section here and I can just choose not to visit it. If I were locked out, I'd never know.


Differential enforcement is the new norm as you pointed out. It is, however, a self correcting problem. I’m shaking my fist at the internet in 1940’s voice and saying, “when I become a minority why I oughta…”


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