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when you´re all set up with your site, we´ll go into dvd distribution of your content too!
you can see mine here... https://www.nataliekash.com/purchase...dvds-for-sale/ after we´ve got you with tubes, platforms, official site set up & your blog, then i´ll set you up with my distributor, have your content on dvd retail sale in the adult shops in the UK & Europe :thumbsup |
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I got some background on this and can tell you that your consultant is defiantly wrong. You should kick him... Reasons are what i mentioned above Check for excample "Rs. C-695/20 – Fenix International Ltd." - EuGH, 28.02.2023 - C-695/20 There are a ton of other decisions with similar legal circumstances but not directly related to adult stuff. But this one is straight forward exactly for our case. It's a decision from the highest European court, nothing in law is stronger then this - in europe. It clearly states that onlyfans model do not need to pay VAT. Same is true for same reasons for virtually every other platform. So if you payed, call your consultant and rescue what you can. |
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sorry, but we´ve been in the business since 2005 & have always done it correct, we´re hoping to make it to the millions sooner than later, but it´s taking a while... |
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they do, it´s not a big as it was, probably half the sales on my last dvd, but it´s still another income :thumbsup |
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they´re pretty great! :thumbsup gets all the adult approval from google & gives priority to many sites :thumbsup |
I know it wasn't the main question but :
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If you make a commission from a EU business (B2B) and that business is established in the same country as you, you have to collect/charge VAT and then give it to the gov. If you make a commission from a EU business (B2B) and that business is NOT established in the same country as you, it is zero rated, you charge 0. The payer self accounts for the VAT in his country (reverse charge mechanism). If you make a commission from a business outside the EU : it's out of scope, you don't charge VAT. Income tax is a different one all together and it has to be paid on all income regardless. |
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so as you have stated this was why you got banned, then i have not lied as it is what i stated. you stated this only a few weeks ago. do you wish me to post a quote. Quote:
again you have been told this for years when you keep begging people to promote your sites and they do not. notice i have not asked anyone to promote my sites as i do not need to. you have stated many times you have blocked me yet you can read my posts. can you explain this because it suggests you lie about me being blocked and as such if that is the case, what else do you lie about. i notice you turned this thread into it being about you and you spamming it with your links. are your sales so bad these days you have to spam. also can you correct your lie about me. i posted this: Quote:
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zips are not fhg my statement was correct most people who want to promote a fhg will just select a pic from the fhg and not spend time dealing with zip files. so my statement was correct as i referred to fhg's. can you admit you were wrong and i was correct why do i have to explain everything to you gary? anyway i will leave you to post your rubbish and spam |
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50 stupid posts... Clean page, maybe now we can talk about ModelCentro |
just to show that when i say gary who is banned uses the account to get around his ban:
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again the freak admits to posting pics of models they believe look underage on a forum, i am only posting this as i was accused of telling lies.
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Although the site & content is the creator, this now making it B2C, as if it wasn´t for the creators footage, descriptions & site, then the transaction from the customer wouldn´t happen? |
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1. you were banned 2. you posted content of somone you state looked 15 and have no evidence she was older and this is why you were banned again you stated i lied so the only reason for these posts is to show i did not lie. that is the rules of this forum that if you make a claim and the person you make a claim against says you lied, then you have to provide evidence. i have provided evidence as the gfy rules state. have a good day folks |
just one last bit where he admits posting it.
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anyway, this is posted because gary stated i was telling lies as i have stated gary admits to posting a pic of somone looking very underaged, and i have not seen him post evidence she was 18 as he now is claiming anyway, now i think people understand why i want nothing to do with this freak and gary has not explained how he can read my posts when he has said he has me on block. again if he lies about me being on block, one must question what other things he lies about |
Now i see gary posts fake quotes in this thread.
https://gfy.com/23199474-post51.html again gary shows us how he is dishonest. this is a fake quote gary posted: Quote:
i notice you have not admited i was correct about the fhg;s |
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You are correct that MC and the customer is B2C, at this stage of the supply chain MC is the service provider but that shouldn't be relevant to your accounting. An example of what I am saying is clearly stated in XLoveCash terms where it reads that the affiliate is the service provider and the sponsor is the business customer (B2B) : https://www.xlovecash.com/en/terms Adult Force terms are also stating this and the invoices produced by these 2 and others reflect that as well, which makes sense : models and affiliates are contractors of the sponsor. Having said that: the easiest and best way to be sure is to ask them to produce a self-billing invoice, this way there's no ambiguity. :2 cents: |
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Of course, if the model is the creator, then the content created is sold from the creator, at this point, this is where my accountant has said, no matter who or where the content is sold, you are the liable for the VAT. Like a manufacturer of a car, do they not pay the vat no matter where the car is sold? |
I was trying to be helpful but it looks way too complicated for me. Your accountant is the one you should trust.
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I suppose depends on if the platform pays the vat for the creator and doesn´t claim it back or if they pay it and leave it being paid by the platform. |
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You're the last one that should talk about spamming crappy sites. |
this thread went sideways because DVTimes loves to hijack threads and drop 7-10 comments in a row. keeping he/she/they/it on my ignore list makes it a lot easier to read hijacked threads.
relevant tip tho - i'm seeing a lot more of my site owners accept offline or offsite payments - cashapp, venmo, paypal, bitcoin - and add the member manually to the site. so make sure you can add manual members on the platform you choose as a paysite. :2 cents: :thumbsup # |
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Modelcentro does have the ability for manual fan updating, you can add the username, password & email, also regenerate new passwords for fans too... I have several subscribers pay direct into my bank, I then just update there subscription to a month or 3 extra every time, works well for them & great for me, especially with someone wanting to pay cash into my British account where they don´t want to have their details on the net :thumbsup |
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I don't want to talk about MC because I don't know them. Let's assume a platform run by a company called Company and let's say you make $100 earnings. If Company's based in Spain for billing purposes then they owe you $121. You keep your $100 and you pay $21 to your gov. If Company's based anywhere in the EU except Spain for billing purposes then they owe you $100. Company has to charge themselves $21 (reverse charge) and they can claim it back like you said. You don't collect VAT from them though you have to file a report. If Company's billing address is outside of the EU (ex: Brazil). It's out of scope for VAT. What happens between Company and the consumer is not relevant, it is a separate step in the chain, it is their problem. Again the easy way is to ask for an invoice, everything is in it. :2 cents: |
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I found this... https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...28/VAT3b22.png it shows each level of vat payments, and at every level of the sale, the vat man wins :upsidedow |
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For the most part we're in the business of selling/buying services (not goods) to multiple locations. I apologize to all for having hijacked this thread. I've already listed out the different scenarios, if someone is interested in the topic search for : mandatory reverse charge art.195 to 198 of the EU VAT directive. You may find some useful info there: https://europa.eu/youreurope/busines...t/index_en.htm |
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One of the basic rules in VAT is that the same thing may not be VAT taxed twice. You can read that on the page where the image is from: wikipedia.org/wiki/Value-added_tax I'm not sure why you what to believe so hardly that you have to pay it. There are cases where would need to pay it but also would get it back, but in ours thats not true. |
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At scale the pricing could be interesting, for now MC has all i want and is 100% risk free. But for a company selling webhosting, your page looks super super outdated. Also was not able to find any sample sites that give me an idea of how it would look like. Non of the reviewers was findable except one and it's page was down. Thats a really bad first impression. Just in case you want to improve your conversion. |
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https://simplyvat.com/social-media-influencer-tax not sure what the problem is, as creators of content, digital services, the production of a film, VAT should be paid. I always recommend people to ask their own accountants, but is best to find out from the proper channels than be held by the VAT man owing 1000´s... :2 cents: |
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now it´s all done, for a tiny cut every month :thumbsup |
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The influencer thing: Thats completely different circumstances, not a single thing in common with our constellation... Be sure to ask a tax lawyer since something like tax consultants legally do not exist in Spain. Gestorias don't need a licence or anything and always tell you whats the way of lowest resistence for them aka what the tax man tells them, that's mostly not the best for you. Cause non of them have in mind to save you money, they both want your money with lowest effort possible. We also have a lot of experience with that. That's Spain, ask 3 consultants and you got 5 opinions and at leats two more if you ask again next day. I could tell you stories.... Ask a lawyer, they are the only ones that are responsible for their consultancy. But anyways, i give up here. Just wanted to help you save money. We sell non adult media globally since almost two decades so i really know what i talk about. In legal terms having the boobs out is the exact same thing. If you just wanna insist in paying it i'm sure Spain is very thankful for that. |
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i do work with startups, but i mainly spend my desk time on custom work for bigger clients. if i needed the cms service to be bigger, it would be. i prefer working half days :pimp i don't sell webhosting. i only host PornCMS sites. :2 cents: good luck and we're looking forward to your first sale! imagine the advice you'll give when you've been in business a decade or two. :thumbsup # |
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