What location and spec are you after? I highly recommend UKServers if you're not wanting US. I have been using them for a few years now for my file servers and they've been fantastic. Solid 10Gbps always, great international connectivity and support is great.

They have some amazing deals on here: https://www.fractionservers.com/specials/

You can also speak with David there if none of them suit your needs and get a great deal.

This is what I have with MoJoHost right now.

I will upgrade the AMD Ryzen 5950X to a AMD Ryzen 7950X and scale horizontally with more 7950X machines because Windows licenses add up based on the number of cores, so the more cores, the higher the cost.

Adding several Ryzen 7950Xs will reap better results together, and cost the same or less, than one large Threadripper or Epyc.

^^ This ^^

If you are shopping around for a hosting provider, take your time. There are tons of them out there to choose from.

People who buy hosting services often end up paying more than necessary or over-provisioning for their actual needs due to several factors, and the salesreps are pretty happy to let that happen.

A common scenario is the lack of understanding of their website's or application's resource requirements, leading to the purchase of more expensive plans with higher bandwidth, storage, or processing power than needed. Marketing strategies by hosting providers, which emphasize the benefits of more costly packages or add-ons, can also influence buyers to opt for more extensive features that remain underutilized.

Here is what I suggest:

I have been using a hosting provider called https://tmdhosting.com since about 2018. They always reply within 15 minutes for every ticket, they let me scale-up and scale down as I need to, they provide support outside of their usual scope, and they even give new customers a free 30 day trial.

Another thing you can do is setup your own server in minutes with a cloud provider such as https://linode.com. For example, if you need a server "right now", you can spin one up and have it online in 5 minutes, for only $5.00 per month. And its FAST.

Use a program such as cPanel to manage it, and begin setting up your domains and email accounts by yourself, easily. cPanel is a very popular and affordable web-based hosting control panel provided by many hosting providers to website owners, allowing them to manage their websites from a web-based interface. If your server is linux and your hosting provider isn't giving you cPanel, you should demand it, and, to provide it to you for free. It is considered one of the best server management tools out there. Cpanel is free to try for 15 days, and after that is about $20 a month or so. TMDHosting provides cPanel for free.

Sorry for the long-winded response but when you are shopping for a hosting provider, take your time. Talk to the reps and ask them questions. Don't let them sell you stuff you don't need, or worse, scare you into spending extra money. A good hosting provider will provide you with the support, tools & speed you need at a reasonable price.

Agreed, i'd always go Ryzen over any server CPU. It's all about single thread performance for websites.

1. Russians (nothing wrong with it, just FYI)
2. A bit over-priced
3. They decide what server they give you, you must not tell anything against their choice
4. They ask € 100 for managed hosting but you have a limited number of hours (they count even seconds, can't ask anything after 10pm and during weekends)
5. You will get charged for EVERYTHING, every single bytes of traffic

I pay $35 for a dedicated server, never any issues, zero downtime
32 GB RAM, 1TB hard drive, and unlimited 1GB bandwidth, I think people are stupid paying $100 for a VPS

Watch this video



The first part is good but if you want to know how to do it, fast-forward to the 5 minute marker. It's excellent and easy for newbies to understand.

No they aren't stupid, they just don't know. They listen to what sales reps tell them, or what sales reps allow them to think.

Of course though, sometimes paying $100 for a VPS or any price for any service isn't necessaily bad IF it frees you up from running your business, AND it is a fair price. $100 for a VPS is of course, nutty.

Another good and fun way to do some things is to do a mix of hosting at a provider, and self-hosting.

For example, you could have your main website at the hosting provider of your choice, and then spin-up servers at Linode.com for other purposes which cost you alot less. You can even host your site and services at your own home, but this is risky for security and reliability reasons. It is good to do to learn, but not recommended if you require 100% reliability.

Mark, buddy, it's like you just keep saying the same stuff out of disdain that I didn't support one of your GFY posts last year, which makes your replies in threads like this personal and a lot less informative than they could be.

Listen, if someone wants hosting from $5-$20/monthly anywhere in the world, this is not the realm I am referring to. I'm not the solution for that and we never advertised ourselves to be. There's a perfectly valid reason we don't sell solutions in this range- they generate a lot of noise, abuse complaints, chargebacks, and make a support desk busy with communication on accounts that are a loss-leader, even at scale.

There's no reason someone should try hosting from their home. If they can't afford something for the price of a coffee and a donut, we really shouldn't be giving them "serious" business advice.

This idea that a '$100 VPS' is absurd seems completely out of touch with current cloud and VPS technologies and what proper business practices will deliver insofar as performance is concerned. For example, our new VPS platform is faster than everything dedicated (or otherwise) at your "favorite" TMD hosting, by several hundred percent. Benchmarks can easily prove that. You just so sincerely want to be right about everything, that you've ignored all conversations and product offerings that I've had for the last 20 years, very much in spite of my genuine intentions and hard work.

Let's tackle your TMD Hosting, first. If we are comparing apples to apples VPS and dedicated hosting plans, we are ostensibly the same or less cost but providing service on more relevant new technology and with additional configuration options plus with what must be a much more advanced team. When you switch their prices to month-to-month instead of a triannual (3 year) advance payment their Linux VPS with 2 vCPU 4GB RAM becomes $54.99/month with 3TB of bandwidth whereas our 2 vCPU 4GB RAM is $29.88 with 300 Megabit unmetered (75TB+/-). You can get into the nuances of adding cPanel or instead choosing on-demand support and you end up with a total solution cost difference that is negligible, yet ours is faster and includes more transfer, which is pretty relevant for adult projects.

The only reason why web hosts push prepayment with steep discounts is when they're selling to a less qualified audience or are expecting high rates of attrition. We could discuss all of their dedicated server offerings, but they're so irrelevant with the underlying hardware, that it would end up being the case their fastest dedicated server with 16 cores and 32GB of RAM is probably only as fast as a "Medium" or "Large" MojoHost VPS, except with completely irrelevant I/O performance using their HDD or SSD. They're also either cheating cPanel on their dedicated server licensing or just completely moronic and haven't updated their own shopping cart. They have the cPanel cloud/VPS pricing on dedicated servers, so they're either cheating the system or too dumb to realize that their own license cost is nearly $60 per bare metal machine.

You reference Linode. Linode is very respectable, it was acquired by Akamai two years ago. My shopping cart prices are 33% off Linode's on the Premium CPU product, a slower CPU than what we are providing. Our pricing is 20% less than Linode's dedicated CPU product, which is significantly slower than our CPU. Lastly, we are about 20% more than Linode's shared-CPU tier, which of course our CPU choice is dramatically faster than. Except, by comparison to Linode, we provide unlimited bandwidth of 300 megabit, 600 megabit, or 1 gigabit, while they provide only 4-12TB of monthly transfer. Plus, we're using Gen4 NVMe storage, which is faster than what is offered on most of their tiers.

And then there's the fact that I am just sharing comparisons with our everyday "low" shopping cart prices. Nearly everyone approaches Natalie or myself for personalized service and a quote, which always leads to some percentage of additional discount. If you don't want to talk to people and don't value the fact that we are readily available, also here posting on this forum, and that we support the industry in so many ways - then probably we aren't a fit for your business.

There are tens of thousands of hosting resellers and smaller web hosts, so it's easy to find service at any price point and a little bit harder to understand what's going on underneath the hood at various providers. There are only a few hundred companies our size or larger. Bigger isn't always better, but it's also quite rude to not acknowledge what reliability, peace of mind, and an honest sales pitch are really worth. Hosting has always been a buyer-beware situation. At the point when web projects switch from being a hobby to being a livelihood, this is where we seek to meet new customers.

Cheers,

Brad

This is what I get for posting for the first time in 7 years. I titled the thread the way I did so I wouldn't trigger people into posting Mojo 4,194 recommendations.

I know Mojo and I have boxes there which are likely to stay there. I just wanted to know who else people host with these days so I can look around and make sure I have a good feel for what's out there.

Maybe I should have titled it: "We all know Mojo is dope and Brad is great. Are there any other hosts left standing?"

With any luck, this will be my last post until 2031.

Mojo is my favorite host I ever used. Seriously.

With that out of the way, I like when Brad gets emotional on here. Shits hilarious.

Fiddy cheers 🤣🥂

See sig.

I'm running a 7900X with 128Gb of 4800MHz RAM, 2x4Tb Crucial NVMe in RAID0, 150Tb bandwidth with a 10Gb port for $139 a month. I couldn't find anything out there to beat that.

this ^^^

a lot wrong with it

Mojo so dope then . . .

Brad, Buddy, I am not posting the "same stuff". This is another thread about hosting and servers, and I like to share what I have learned over the past 10 years. Hosting, Servers, Networks etc, are all things I do and support these days in my mainstream life.

Besides that, it is just fun for me - I *Love* this stuff. I geek-out and cosplay as a sysadmin in my homelab (hello ladies!) and have servers all over the place including Linode, AWS and Azure.

It is unfortunate that you did not take my side during that issue, but I do not give a flying fuck about that anymore (Hand shake if you want). I have never once said anything bad about you or Mojohost. You guys provide good service. I know this for a fact even though I am not your client. I have zero negative things to say about your company, and have never once said anything bad about it, so I don't know where you are coming from. You may not realize this, but I helped you recover lost payments from one of your customers years ago. You're welcome.

Should anyone host from home? Like I said in post #48 above, it is too risky for security and reliability reasons. It is FUN to do if you feel like learning a new skill, and learning is something I always ecourage other people to do.

On a personal note, you shouldn't put down your competitors like https://tmdhosting.com. They offer good services and fair prices just like you, and I am sure you are on par with them and could probably maybe beat them by offering a special package or something.

Comparing hosting provider hardware is kind of pointless. All hosting providers, especially cloud providers like AWS and Linode, all offer users the choice of CPU, HDD types (including nvme's, etc), and some like TMD also offer unliited bandwidth. Big factors like Bandwidth capacity, Data center locations, QoS policies and of course network infrastructure all make a huge difference too. When it comes to transfering files via FTP for example, a server that is physically closer to you may be faster than a machine with better hardware that is further away. Hops and latency matter. You know that, but not everyone does.

And of course there are lots of hosting resellers and smaller web hosts. In fact, anyone could spin-up some virtual machines and use something like https://www.whmcs.com to run their own hosting business. Is it easy? Fuck no. Do you need to be a you-level genius to make it successfull? Fuck yes.

Anyway, Tell you what - I'll help you out here.

Everyone: If you are in need of a good hosting provider with cool employees like Nathalie and great technical support and stellar reputation, checkout Mojohost.

Peace.

Or, Mark, they have no interest in learning their way around a server and exchange money for someone else's time to do it.

I could do my own bookkeeping and probably file my taxes through Turbo Tax, but I pay an accountant to sort that all out.


Why are you as a business owner having such a hard time grasping that?

Exactly. It's so strange, almost as if he has no experience running a business at all.


Always trying to play that "i know it all" card. :321GFY


Mark, do you actually believe that you're an expert on every subject, every persons body, and on everyone's business?

It’s gfy what do you expect ?

cpanel included?

No I use my own DA licence on all my servers, I don't know what their price is for cPanel.

As Americans, we could ask your Canadian ass the same thing bro 🤣

I love Canada btw, but Canadian red hats are a special breed idiocy.

If you take a moment to re-read what I said, your take-aways would be that I am emphising basic concepts like "shop around" and "know what you're buying", and "Learning is fun".

Of course, and so do I same thing. I don't like accounting (except in software), I hate taxes, and like most business owners, don't have the time nor energy to dive into it except when absolutely necessary.

I really think you need to take your time and read what I posted.

Exactly where did I call myself an expert? No where. Exactly where did I say I am an expert of Mojohost? Nowhere either.

And exactly where did I say that Mojohost is a good hosting provider with a stellar rep? Right here:

VACARES.com
they're freaking GRRRREAT!

Unfortunately there aren't any that are as good as Mojo Host! Stick with Mojo Host. I've been with them for over 10 years now. There support is the best I've ever encountered.

Hi Redwhiteandblue,

Your server from Interserver.net is barely a "server" at all. It does not use error-correcting (ECC) RAM. Also, it uses consumer grade NVMe storage. Consumer NVMe and SSDs do not have power-loss protection (PLP) to prevent against data corruption in the event of power loss, and they also won't have the performance characteristics of enterprise storage under load. It's fine if you're happy with it, but their web site doesn't share this information about the server not being built from all server components.

Brad

But he's getting a great deal on it...lol website is prolly slow and looks like ass too.

It matters not to them due to a) backups, and b) not being in Zambia to expect any outages.

Consumer-grade hardware will work fine for most people with a proper backup plan set in place, and the cost will be significantly lower than if they were to pay for enterprise grade.

The real issue here, and the reason so many people being triggered is the tech support that is often cocky, laying the blame on the customer, and simply saying you need to upgrade for nearly everything.

Nothing more, nothing less.

Hiring more locals, and not outsourcing to meet the demand, but save on labor costs is what would reduce the comments you usually get. It's just that people often won't elaborate on why they are triggered.

I don't know whose technical support you're describing with these comments, but none of this describes MojoHost. Our staff has incredible humility and they're terrible at selling more hosting. We squeeze every bit of performance out of servers for clients and only recommend upgrades when they're absolutely necessary after exhausting all measures of tweaking the server environment.

Brad

Depends what you want to host. For more big adult sites or sites that mustn't go down for even short time i would go for mojo. Or sites that need better knowledge and know the industry.

In the mean time i have a lot of domains for sale i want to host instead of redirecting to Sedo /Dan. All html, no databse. That will will do fine on a cheap shared or cloud host. I got some hostinger cloud hosting for 4 years for that.

Now must decide where i should set up some mechbunny scripts.

Go back to the ticket history, study as many tickets as you can, and see how your outsourced Staff respond to customers, and then come back to me and tell me I am wrong.

I haven't seen the humility, but I have witnessed a lot of the "the aforementioned script is hogging your available resources, you need more resources", "it's the script's fault", "we can't find that", etc.

It's not that they are not knowledgeable, or unable to do something, it's that they have no real incentive to be pro-active, and do some proper troubleshooting instead of going back and forth that the customer is wrong, that they need more information, etc. They see it as a 9 to 5, and that's your real issue here. Selling a dream company that runs off of outsourced tech contractors that generally won't go the extra mile.

Take it for what it is: honest feedback.

I don't know who you are, so that makes a review of your ticket history not possible, yet. I'm going to direct message you for that information, because honestly I would very much like to read your tickets so that I can understand your perspective. Without a review of your ticket history and understanding of what your hosting resources are, it's not possible for me to comment your experience, publicly or privately. If you've had one or multiple tickets that were handled poorly, I'll certainly be able to discern that when I read them and take corrective measures, as-needed.

None of our staff is outsourced. We have a blended global team with employees living in about 10 countries, a count that has expanded quite a bit since the war started. We have competitive wages and tremendous benefits. Everyone that works for us is full-time, paid directly by us, and nobody works out of any other company offices. These would be characteristics to accurately describe 'out-sourced.'

The average experience with our support team is very much to the contrary of what you're reporting here. This doesn't mean that I am disagreeing with your experience, but it's not what I see when I review service or hear when I talk to our clients daily. Out staff is absolutely motivated to go above and beyond in support tickets. It's actually a part of our core values and something that we manage, monitor and review employee performance on.

I'll send you a PM to gather more details, or please contact me directly by any method.

Thank you,

Brad

Was this a linux server? Did you have access to the server via SSH or cPanel / Terminal? If so you could have run "top" (or "htop") to check out what's eating up your resources. Then, a simple "kill" command can stop the greedy app and freed-up resources on the spot. If a hosting provider doesn't allow you to SSH (Some don't allow this because they want to maintain a simplified user experience or for support reasons maybe, their tech support should be able to run it for you and send you a screenshot.

Who said anyone was "an expert of Mojohost"? WTF does that even mean?

something wrong with them, im very happy with them, and 99% of my clients use them.

do they still resell google cloud?

i know at the beginning they were dooing ovh.

We have never resold Google Cloud. And we haven't used OVH in years.

And we've been over this before. :winkwink:

hivelocity has good vps as well. not sure about adult content though.

$27 8cpu 16gb 320gb ssd, 10tb bandwidth

You could certainly purchase that from them if you like, but we don't use their hardware either.

I've been with Mojohost for several years and, honestly, my experience is quite the opposite. Frankly, they've gone above and beyond for me a few times -- especially in accommodating certain scripts, which is well outside reasonable expectations in a support plan. That's not to diminish your own experience, of course. I can only speak to my own experience. Certainly, I'm thankful my experience has been better.

I used HiVelocity Dedicated Servers, with adult content, for 6 or 7 years and had no issue at all. I quite liked HiVelocity. However, there came a point where I needed a full-service management option (and no control panel), which HV never offered, and that was the catalyst to making the migration to MOJO. I have no regrets (MOJO might LOL)

To the OP, you can usually find some offers at WebHostingTalk (they have a dedicated offers subsection). Sometimes there are great deals and there are also a lot of reviews of various hosting providers. Several are just resellers, but there are definitely a few gems and deals there at times as well.