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fris 03-20-2024 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by robwod (Post 23245724)
I've been with Mojohost for several years and, honestly, my experience is quite the opposite. Frankly, they've gone above and beyond for me a few times -- especially in accommodating certain scripts, which is well outside reasonable expectations in a support plan. That's not to diminish your own experience, of course. I can only speak to my own experience. Certainly, I'm thankful my experience has been better.


I used HiVelocity Dedicated Servers, with adult content, for 6 or 7 years and had no issue at all. I quite liked HiVelocity. However, there came a point where I needed a full-service management option (and no control panel), which HV never offered, and that was the catalyst to making the migration to MOJO. I have no regrets (MOJO might LOL)

To the OP, you can usually find some offers at WebHostingTalk (they have a dedicated offers subsection). Sometimes there are great deals and there are also a lot of reviews of various hosting providers. Several are just resellers, but there are definitely a few gems and deals there at times as well.

hivelocity offers full manafgement for a fee now. i manage my own stuff so i dont need that though.

just bought their max vps config, i will see how it does.

i still have my main stuff on mojo.

2MuchMark 03-20-2024 02:03 PM

It would be interesting to run a few tests between the hosting providers and see how they all do. What metrics could we use?

Let's say you setup a website at 3 different hosting providers. Each server has to be exactly the same spec when it comes to CPU's Ram, and type of storage.

If you run some kind of load test, they should all perform the same. If they are advertised as the same but secretly are different, this would expose them.

PRO TIP: If you want to know if your hosting company is bullshitting you about the hardware that is running your server, just SSH to your server and run this command :
Code:

sudo lshw
This will tell you everything and then some about the hardware you are paying for.


But let's say they all perform well. What else can each provider be tested on?

Uploading or downloading files would not be a fair test because you would have a different number of hops between each provider, and fluctuations in those hops would cause some latency sometimes. However, a hosting provider that is physically closer to you will always perform better for you when it comes to file transers.

You could setup each server to load exactly the same website with exactly the same assets, and then do a Page load test from Google. This could expose some wierdness, but chances are it would be very minor.

I think that one of the best ways to test hosting providers would be in support. Let's say you purposes "break" those 3 websites, then contact support for each provider. How fast they reply to you and then find and fix the issue should tell you who the clear winner is.

The best possible choice in hosting, is what works for you. I love the idea that TMDHosting.com gives everyone a 1 month free trial, no questions asks. They also give you free support and free cPanel during that time too which to me, is a win-win, win win win. It is why I refer all of my clients to them (again with no affilaite link).

It really pays to think about your hosting requirements. If you have the know-how or the willingness to learn a little bit about how hosting works, you can setup a webserver at the hosting provider of your choice, then setup cheap storage volumes at Linode or AWS for example, saving you a ton of money.

k0nr4d 03-21-2024 02:22 AM

If anyone wants to save some money on cpanel, virtualmin/webmin is MUCH better then cpanel and is free...

mrmister 03-21-2024 02:46 AM

The issue here is there's tons of providers which have great specs for dirt cheap. It's the policy of adult. You have a big site. Will they decide one day to wipe your server after a false DMCA complaint? Or you have a high traffic cam aggregator and a DMCA complaint takes down your site whilst you get a new host.

ladida 03-21-2024 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by mrmister (Post 23246025)
The issue here is there's tons of providers which have great specs for dirt cheap. It's the policy of adult. You have a big site. Will they decide one day to wipe your server after a false DMCA complaint? Or you have a high traffic cam aggregator and a DMCA complaint takes down your site whilst you get a new host.

Something along those lines

2MuchMark 03-21-2024 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by k0nr4d (Post 23246018)
If anyone wants to save some money on cpanel, virtualmin/webmin is MUCH better then cpanel and is free...

True, I forgot about webmin. I haven't used it in a long time. I used to use both webmin and cpanel but found that it was easier to use, and most end users prefered it too. Plus the support is outstanding. I think every hosting provider should offer cpanel.

k0nr4d 03-22-2024 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 23246302)
True, I forgot about webmin. I haven't used it in a long time. I used to use both webmin and cpanel but found that it was easier to use, and most end users prefered it too. Plus the support is outstanding. I think every hosting provider should offer cpanel.

Now that you mention it, it's entirely possible that cpanel is friendlier to a "normal" user but I've gotta say... for me personally it's virtualmin or nothing. I can't stand cpanel, plesk, directadmin. All are shit compared to virtualmin/webmin. If I'm to use cpanel i'd rather sit and edit configuration files manually via SSH.

I'll chime in here about hosting as well, as we send alot of customers to hosts. If a customer requires managed hosting, we send them to Mojohost. The support is great, we have a special conduit for contact if we need something done on a customers server, and most importantly - they are very familiar with the adult industry and thus the scripts in it used by website owners. This is where we send almost all customers.

If someone doesn't need managed hosting and can sort out their own backups, or they are on a low budget and just need server setup once without regular management - we send them to leaseweb, ovh, or soyoustart (also OVH but older hardware), or contabo if a VPS will cut it.

If someone is doing something that requires exceptionally high security like a cryptocurrency exchange, or it's an application that would requires cloud storage but where the use of a block storage instead of object storage would be advantageous - we send them to reflected.net. This isn't to say that Mojohost isn't secure - it absolutely is and we've never seen any problems in that regard - but reflected's default server configurations are heavily restricted as far as what can be executed on them.

inabon 03-22-2024 11:55 AM

Donīt want to kiss ass but ... yeah fuck it I am goig to kiss ass :)

I am probably uknown to a lot but you can see my joined gfy date... you can use that date as a refference of the time I have known mojo give or take 4 years max. I have dealt with mojo easy for the past 10+ years. Also my post count as a refference that I really work my ass off instead of chatting on boards lol

Their full managed service is 1 of a kind. I used to do all my server stuff while I was learning. Then after learning I decided to not do it let the real pros do it and they do LOL short from bringing me coffee in the morning I can say that full managed server or vhost with them is the way to go... bad for employees cause you wont need the server guy just the webmaster guy and thats because mojo does not make webpages for you but if they would they would be good at is.

there done my emmy award ass kissing review :)

MOJO for the win.

Brad wont let me lie. We probably have the record or close to it of the oldest servers in the lot that recently were upgraded.... took us almost a year to do so... not because of mojo, because of our if it aint broken do not fucking touch it policy hahahahaha

Natally Rocks

and their tech support team is the bomb those guys are real pros.

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Originally Posted by Brad Mitchell (Post 23241163)
Hi TurboB,

Nobody should begrudge you for that choice if it suits your needs and makes you happy, then it's good for you.

Listen, if I had an audience of clients that just wanted unmanaged services and a focus on price, not speed, nor support then I'd be happy to sell at their rates on their volumes, all day long.

Contabo says it has 350,000 servers running (presumably a count of all shared, VPS, cloud, dedicated, etc.) for 180,000 clients managed by "64 highly trained individuals are waiting for your contact. We offer telephone support 365 days a year from 8 am to 11 pm German local time and our agents monitor our support tickets 24 hours a day."

We have just over 50 employees servicing around 2,000 clients... and I can assure you, it's not luxurious staffing, there is always more work than people, and we are very efficient. I've also not heard of a web host that only takes live phone calls during such short EU business hours before, so I applaud Contabo for that.

Selling automated infrastructure and services is easy. If anyone has a brilliant idea on how to create a pipeline for such demand, please apply for a marketing or sales job here. If you can create the demand, I already know that we can deliver faster, cheaper and better for clients who don't require support. :thumbsup

Brad


mainstreammix 03-22-2024 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by MrVids (Post 23242229)
This is what I get for posting for the first time in 7 years. I titled the thread the way I did so I wouldn't trigger people into posting Mojo 4,194 recommendations.

I know Mojo and I have boxes there which are likely to stay there. I just wanted to know who else people host with these days so I can look around and make sure I have a good feel for what's out there.

Maybe I should have titled it: "We all know Mojo is dope and Brad is great. Are there any other hosts left standing?"

With any luck, this will be my last post until 2031.

You beckoned the wallposter.

2MuchMark 03-22-2024 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by k0nr4d (Post 23246388)
Now that you mention it, it's entirely possible that cpanel is friendlier to a "normal" user but I've gotta say... for me personally it's virtualmin or nothing. I can't stand cpanel, plesk, directadmin. All are shit compared to virtualmin/webmin. If I'm to use cpanel i'd rather sit and edit configuration files manually via SSH.

Even though cPanel lets you do alot of stuff, I prefer installing whatever I need via SSH. It's just cooler somehow, and I love watching it scroll at lightning speeds during some install. Me=nerd.

And yes, that is a good point. cPanel is very friendly. I don't host anything, but I support alot of clients who host their own stuff on various hosting providers. After I show them they can do alot of their own stuff like create email and FTP accounts, issue their own free SSL certificates, add new domains, Install Wordpress, even debug some stuff, they are alot happier, and my support calls go down. Everybody happy.





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Originally Posted by k0nr4d (Post 23246388)
I'll chime in here about hosting as well, as we send alot of customers to hosts. If a customer requires managed hosting, we send them to Mojohost. The support is great, we have a special conduit for contact if we need something done on a customers server, and most importantly - they are very familiar with the adult industry and thus the scripts in it used by website owners. This is where we send almost all customers.

If someone doesn't need managed hosting and can sort out their own backups, or they are on a low budget and just need server setup once without regular management - we send them to leaseweb, ovh, or soyoustart (also OVH but older hardware), or contabo if a VPS will cut it.

If someone is doing something that requires exceptionally high security like a cryptocurrency exchange, or it's an application that would requires cloud storage but where the use of a block storage instead of object storage would be advantageous - we send them to reflected.net. This isn't to say that Mojohost isn't secure - it absolutely is and we've never seen any problems in that regard - but reflected's default server configurations are heavily restricted as far as what can be executed on them.

Cool. I refer my adult clients to TMD, but all of my mainstream clients are on Linode, Microsoft Azure or Amazon AWS. I use to love AWS, but lately I am appreciating Azure more and more. My favourite is still Linode though, especially since they just gave me a $300.00 credit!

The only thing I would tell people to be really careful of is getting a VM with some vGPU's if they want to play with AI or Machine Learning. It can end up costing alot of money if they aren't careful. It is better to upgrade your own home PC with a GPU and run LLM's locally than to do it in the cloud...

redwhiteandblue 03-23-2024 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by k0nr4d (Post 23246018)
If anyone wants to save some money on cpanel, virtualmin/webmin is MUCH better then cpanel and is free...

Can it integrate CSF?

k0nr4d 03-23-2024 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by redwhiteandblue (Post 23246718)
Can it integrate CSF?

Yep https://webmin.com/docs/third-party-...-and-firewall/


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