Originally Posted by Retiree (Post 23279939)

Research is mostly useless for this stuff...they mostly pick people who never trained before or people who train a little and have no idea what they are doing...so they can easily gain some small amount of muscle doing whatever...even 15 reps. But if someone works out for over a year, those things become useless and muscles will need much more stimulus than that.

Bodybuilders are doing videos how they do 12 or more reps and people think thats the way to go, but they don't show the amount of drugs they take along with that. For most normal people, doing regular diets, who train 3-6 times per week, small amount of reps is the best. Old school pyramid was working 50 years ago and is still working now...increase weight with each set, until only 1-2 reps are possible. Easy and effective.

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 23279871)

Have you tried doing keto?

If not, give it a try for a few weeks. You'll be able to workout for longer after a few weeks in ketosis, you'll have a lot more energy

Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker (Post 23280002)

Yup. I had also gone a week without eating anything when I was full keto. I did keto for 2 years

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 23280013)

Fair play :thumbsup

I've done about 10 years on and off keto, I can do it for 3/6 months max. I wish I could do keto constantly but I don't have the discipline and after 6 months I want some carbs in my diet

I think it's like everything, it's about finding what works best for you and your body

I always find it strange when different tribes online start arguing amongst themselves, keto vs carnivor diet vegan vs vegetarian etc

I mean for fuck sake, anyone interested in prolonging their health and self improvement are in the minority and basically on the same page/have the same goals

Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker (Post 23280021)

Ever since keto, I realized carbs don’t provide the energy claimed. I try to keep carbs to only breakfast and pre workout if bulking

Originally Posted by TheLegacy (Post 23279949)

I'm not sure where you get your research or whether it's just an opinion (which I think is the case) - as said before my son is doing it and there is noticeable growth and shaping of his upper body. I'm not sure why suddenly this is now in question but I guess that's the way people today think - don't trust science - don't trust anything and there is always a catch. That all being said - my son doesn't do drugs nor others that I know who do the same - it's natural and works.

Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 23279954)

fiddy muscleheads merrily muscling

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 23280029)

Yep it spikes blood sugar too much

Humans are not built for eating lots of sugar & refined carbs all day every day