Offering a discounted spouse badge is something I haven’t seen, but would make an awful lot of sense for those of us who travel with them.

Traffic Services, that’s very much a whole category of being a service provider that isn’t affiliate.

Brad

Well they denied me and I think it's pretty funny. Seems like I always get denied the first time around, not sure what about theheron.net screams big baller shot caller and not 1999 affiliate?
Also do models have to pay now?? Or maybe I didn't look enough

I guess they are going to deny everyone. Not sure what's going on with that.

Bro you’re the definition of affiliate. That’s crazy

My guess is they think Traffic Services.

I'm mildly curious to see if I'd get rejected even though I have no plans of going :)
WG

Had to pay $99 for my wife's TES affiliate badge so she could pop in the last day and say hi to a couple of people :uhoh

Everyone just meet at Robbie's house! :)

That's fucked up.

It's 2024 (almost 2025). Everything has changed.

In 2000 I remember going to YP Mexico and meeting someone who claimed they could send us two hundred joins a day. We drank and we laughed and we drank some more and said "That would be great" but never expected to hear from him again. We got back to Phoenix, he signed up, and started sending us two hundred joins a day to a single site (and I still remember which site too). By the end of the month he was sending to all of our sites and it was just insane.

The entire point of shows back then was to find those affiliates. Affiliates also loved the shows because it was the only time they could hang out with models & porn stars and see some titties. But the affiliate game has been over for some time now.

Maybe you should try TES Prague. Its more affiliate oriented. Most of the adult affiliates are now european/russians.

Hopefully they will reconsider.
The handful of sponsors and companies with tables would probably appreciate having someone other than just themselves in attendance.

I agree with this wholeheartedly. When shows come up with comp badges which don't map to who the sponsors are and don't map to who can afford them and have some sort of anonymously juried system, that definitely leads to bad feelings and can really impact the demographics of who is showing up in undesirable ways.

Yes, AVN charges talent, I think maybe mostly to sell badges to booths who will distribute the badges to models, but I do know models who buy badges.

In 2024, talent is likely to make more dough than almost any other role, but I think are disinclined to pay.

For folks thinking round bar, I am so so nostalgic for the round bar at Venetian.

Why did the show stop being at The Venetian?

But I believe AVN did a hotel buyout this year, so you may not be able to be in the hotel at all without a badge.

I've thought over the past few years that charging talent for badges is a HUGE mistake for AVN.

The only reason that fans attend the AEE is to see and meet pornstars. Period.

And so now the last few years...it's mostly been cam girls (since the old school studios are barely left anymore) at the My Free Cams display.

And then the scheduled signings and pic opportunities at the handful of studios left that bring in girls.

Other than that? Nothing.

And the majority (vast majority) of the pornstar girls come in from LA on the night of the AVN awards show. They go to private parties after the show (with no fans) and then go back home the next day.

If AVN really wanted to spark interest in the show again...they should be giving talent free badges. Escpecially talent with huge social media presence.
Hell...these girls should be GIVEN tables at AVN to set up as well.

Few years back Theo and company (who owned it then) sold spots on the floor for models for cheap. We paid $500 for a booth. And they had that one whole section of "The Joint" floor space at The Hard Rock just for all the models.
The fans fucking loved it and the show was packed.

They should get back to that.

We always get SWAMPED outside the show at the bar. The fans are so eager to actually see and meet someone like Claudia Marie that they could talk to for a minute because the show floor is so sparse on girls.

I personally feel like AVN could turn that show around by treating the pornstars like stars and not charge them. Fill that showroom up with porn girls and watch the fans come back and fill that room.

Last years AVN show inside that fucking tent at Resorts World was the low point in my humble opinion.

More great ideas from Robbie!! :thumbsup

Not going this year but I hope y'all have a great time (and do some good business too).

Having the show floor in the tent was not AVN's idea. Resorts World placed us there.

They double booked that weekend with another convention.

This is one of the reasons we are back at Virgin.

There are tens of thousands of Creators now... where do you draw the line as to who gets a free badge and who doesnt?

You started this thread because you were upset that you werent considered an affiliate anymore.

Do you know how many Creators would be upset if they werent considered "worthy" of getting a free badge?

When we had AVNStars we did give free badges to anyone who was a Creator on the platform.

I only go this year when i get free tickets, free flight tickets from BKK, invites to all private parties, free beers and a free hotelroom :)

xBiz gives all creators a free badge, and TES gives all traffic service providers ( affilates ) free badges.

Both great shows for business, and yes, they give me free badges. :thumbsup

Can you get me invites to the private parties?

When was the last time we met up? Medellin 10+ years ago?

What's up with all this "we" stuff Michael?

As for "drawing the line"...well, what does it matter?

We're talking about WOMEN at the show. You know...the actual reason the fans go.

It doesn't cost AVN one penny to give a badge to a model. But that model going on her social media and telling her fans she will be there? That can make the real money (the fans)

Pornlaw works for/with AVN.

Time flies, still good and bad stories about Medellin :pimp

I am in BKK not in LV. I couldn´t find the big parties last year either.
But the circle bar and internext area was a good meeting point.
Think most parties in Vegas are organised by creator sites.

Oh cool! So he's one of their attorneys. He didn't tell me about that. Good for him! Congrats to you Michael!

Yeah... remember we were walking down the street coming from Park Llleras and the police stopped you and extorted you?

Ohhh I thought you were already invited to all the private parties.

If anyone has the invites to the private parties, please let me know.

We are still looking for a location suite for the BP4L bukakee!

Fucking well said :thumbsup:pimp

XBiz LA gave you a free badge?

Or when we wanted to walk into a bar in the old center when we saw police running to us.
And 2 woman came out of the bar fighting, one with a knife in her shoulder :)
We didn't enter that bar.

Policeman didn't even get my weed. Only took 25 USD out of my wallet.
So i had to get my hidden money out of my sock when they went :)

It isn't like 15 years ago in Vegas with a seperate Internext hotel and a lot of affiliate programs throwing parties.

I could now but back in the day I'd buy 1000 weekend seminars. Gave 500 to the girl so she could come along. She hypnotized a bank teller (see Derren Brown) out of the other 500.

good times.

Since 2011... Thank you. :pimp

But there is no shortage of attractive models and creators at the show.

All of the porn agents are there, and they give badges to their clients.

Cam companies bring dozens to hundreds of models with them.

Studios hire pornstars to sign/appear at their booths.

I dont think the show lacks pornstars. creators or models.

And many just show up to Vegas for the parties and the Awards Show anyway.

The more the merrier doenst necessarily make sense when you need to police the crowd size we have.

But if you want a freebie, I can get you free tickets to the GayVN Awards Show on Monday, January 20th if you and Claudia Marie are interesting in coming. Im not joking... its actually a fun night, no homo. Everyone is welcome.

I doubt Robbie's worried abouit the money.

Happy New Year all

Who a show chooses to make feel welcome and who a show chooses to comp can be indicative of who they want at the show. If a show approves some people and not others, in a particular role, that can also just, ya know, feel bad. So I understand objecting on principle, regardless of the specific amount.

I kinda wish Internext and AVN were still separate shows because I have super different goals at each. I feel particularly nostalgic for the years things were at the Venetian. I think my favorite year might have been when it was BondCon, Internext, AVN all in a row.

Why did those shows stop being at the Venetian, anyone know?

The Venetian was nice. My last show 2008? It was a joke a by then.

^^^^^ EXACTLY ^^^^^


Exactly. Who the hell would complain about this price? It's a bargain, and its one of the best shows too.

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Holy shit dude...!

Then what the fuck are you bitching about? Buy your tickets and attend the show already. Trade shows like this aren’t just events—they’re investments in your company’s future. Even though you may own your business, you’re also an employee of it, and it’s your responsibility to do everything possible to ensure its growth and success. That means meeting as many people as possible, exploring opportunities, and staying ahead of industry trends.

The $350 ticket price is a small cost compared to the doors this event could open for you. Think about it: everyone you meet there will be serious about their craft, whether they’re content creators, affiliates, hosting providers, or other professionals. If they’re paying to attend, they either take their work seriously, can afford it, or both. These are exactly the types of people you want to connect with—high-value contacts who can help you expand your business. Unless of course, you don't give a shit anymore.

Complaining about not being invited for free doesn’t just miss the point—it reflects poorly on your commitment to your own success. If you’re serious about growing your company, skipping this opportunity over a modest ticket price isn’t just shortsighted; it’s a disservice to your business.

Theo bought the AVN and decided that it was simply too expensive to continue to run it in conjunction with CES.

We had a lot of people complain about the costs of rooms during CES.

So he moved the show away from CES and away from the Venetian.

Rooms were much less expensive on a different weekend and at a different venue.

Now rooms are just expensive everywhere and every weekend.

For the record those who do special speaking at seminars get free tickets which has helped me throughout the year including this one as AVN is paying for it. The hotel was very nice and booked me a room right where the seminar was located so I didnt have to travel much

AVN knows good value when they see it. Congrats to you and AVN!

Better deal than GFY admins.

… value when they see it. :D

I´d like to get out to LA or the US for promo at one of these shows, enjoyed the ETO in the UK a few years running & an EXPO near Murcia...

Who does make it there, hope you have a great time :thumbsup

So well said. Thats the exact point !

God Forbid Avn makes money for putting on an event. They aren't running a charity.

Cyberhustler said it best:
LOL!!!!!!

How do you see that? They have to invest money and time to make the show. Don't they deserve to make a profit on their investment?

Again, they don't need to give anything away for free. They are presenting an opportunity to YOU (and models) to do business, and expand their business. If you don't more business, then just don't go. If you can't afford to go, even when its in your own home town, then you probably need AVN more than they need you.

Damn communists and socialists always want free handouts. We ain't tolerating that shit no more in magaworld.