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For the most part, AI code is not .. production ready on any "large" project.

Context is a problem, but that will improve.
Human intervention is still very much needed.

That said, I have changed my development style to play nice with AI, 100% component based, event driven design when and where I can. This allows me to use AI with limited context windows and experience a lot less pain, while accomplishing much more. 60 lines of code, across a model, and controller is much easier for it to digest

GPT is retarded since they added the icons, so Ive been using Claude and Deepseek ( prolly the best honestly when the fuckin server will load )

Coding has once again evolved.. its not dead.

so far, god mode has been enabled - a single dev can replace a team for sure, so I see what Zuck was saying.

On a large scale like Meta that sounds bad, but for an independent dev, its a HUGE advantage.

I'd have to talk to you in depth to see what you mean by production ready, since our last convo I've met others doing some very insane things with it off of these forums. I did completely adjust how I approach things when developing and this might be where the differing ideas of ready originate.

For a non coding moron it's a Godsend. :1orglaugh

Interesting takeaways. As in any industry, experts will always be wanted, and people will be willing to pay top dollar for their work. AI helps, but I would never rely only on AI if I needed a developer. If he wants to use it, fine, but if the idea is that people who know nothing about coding should do it all by themselves with the help of AI, I cannot see it as a realistic option.

Everyone I talk to NOT using AI says the same but in most cases something just hasn't clicked yet. I am more productive, efficient, faster and get better results with AI as a non coder than I have ever received from all but 2 developers over 20+ years. I would say their results were equal (worse if we talk about how user friendly they are), not better. So now erase $100,000 from the cost and I'll go with AI every time.

Can I imagine a project where AI might be a pain? Sure, but 99% of what people would want to develop is fully covered with the right approach.

The same can be said for most hand developed websites, no website, script, etc is production ready at the outset, everything needs to be tweaked and adjusted.

If you spend the time making sure to provide the correct prompts and make sure things work as you go forward, getting a script, logo design or web html code production ready, still takes less time than working with a designer or developer, at almost zero cost other than time :2 cents:

You can't just tell AI to 'code this' and expect something ready to run, no more than if I told you 'build me a website' and expect you to pump out exactly what i want and it be 'production ready' :1orglaugh

Yup, this might be where the problem and/or solution lies. We'll see what happens in the next few years.

I'm still learning how to use AI to write scripts. I sometimes feel like AI knows what I'm trying to accomplish, but pretends it doesn't know unless I spell it out 'exactly', kind of like talking to that guy in high school who pretended not to know what you were talking about and forced you to be super specific, and forced you to eliminate his arguments beforehand until he had no choice but to give you an answer. It's like AI knows you want to profit somehow and doesn't want to help you.

That's just the feeling I get. I have gotten scripts from it but again, being new, I have little idea what people are doing with them. That's where I'm still blind and trying to "see".

That's the same as if you hired a developer to write you a script, they need to know exactly what you need in order to deliver a working product.

The only difference is, you're writing a prompt instead of a set of features.

Yeah for sure. I guess I meant that I feel a bit of attitude, or resistance, or game playing going on. It's not so much specificity (which is absolutely crucial with developing anything) as it is some kind of morality that the developers built into the AI, to make it act a certain way or resist certain asks.

50 job openings.

I have this thing scraping data and publishing it in ways to make money and it even suggests other ways to monetize. :1orglaugh

Prompting is an art. A developing art, still in its infancy. No matter what AI you use, you gotta have a firm grip on words to successfully prompt and be intelligent enough to put your own spin on it.

There's no one way to do it, but there's no way around it. Gotta learn it and develop your style. That is the key that will be determining "adapt or die" for a while. If you have barriers, plan on adding a "promptsmith" to your budget.

Have patience and practice. It's one of those things where once you start seeing what works, the ideas start just flowing and magic happens... fast.

Also, different AI communities on Reddit and such have some very nice members that will give you "prompting frameworks" to play with.

My own children have blew my mind the past year. They learned to prompt, created entire games on Roblox with AI help and I had no idea how much fucking money they actually made until I had to step in to take care of the DevEx requests because they're under 13.

Yeah, I figure I need to really become friends with chatgpt and the others. Right now I'm still tinkering.

Also, different AI communities on Reddit and such have some very nice members that will give you "prompting frameworks" to play with.

That is so awesome. They will be rich at 18. But also be able to navigate a way to make a living and choose their own life. Good for them.

Tried to talk mine into making a Roblox game. :1orglaugh

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im pretty sure everyone knows hello world :p

maybe a different take on it?

the big boys are using something 100x better

Totally agree. The fact that new people don't feel the need to learn basics will lead to the point when AI will have to work with AI-made problems and as of now it looks like it'll be a hard time for LLMs to operate with complex problems.

As first wave of AI hype will settle down, only then we'll see what real future state of market will look like. Rn it's a storm and everyone predicts the end of the world for programmers.

stop using IIFs, they're useless.

I refuse to learn code, I don't like symbols. :1orglaugh {?]

10 Print "Hello World"
20 Goto 10
30 Run

Line 30 is redundant as it will never be executed.

Hey, did your Facebook get banned or is AI impersonating you? (No doubt ducks hired the AI)