Wonder what will happen with the adult profiles of X/Twitter

I'll simply remove all HC pics from the tour, this should be fine for the beginning.

Agreed. Although, piracy´s always been problematic, but yes, seeing your point. It´s possible switching to piracy & sites with stolen content could theoretically become more of a problem & we may see a growth in piracy :Oh crap

likewise with Whats app & other group chats...

:thumbsup

Feds are not going to knock on your door. LOL Enforcement is going to be the thing. There are millions upon millions of adult websites on the Web. No one has the resources to police every site. That's why all this nonsense should be handled by the payment gateways.

And shouldn't the cc processors (CCBill, Epoch, merch accounts, etc) be doing the age verification anyway?

A law that is impossible to enforce. You should stop being a fearmonger, saw your X account and you posted very clickbait article with the tittle "House of Reps orders ban on porn websites, calls for ISP sanctions" then you click and was in NIGERIA.. really????. Everything you post is fear.

Nothing because Twitter isn't selling those images. And besides, Musk will just pay Chump to have anyone who opposes him made dead.

Of course they probably won't knock on your door, but I hope you understand what I meant. If your porn site were doing well and you or a model were active on social media and some stuck-up Govenor got caught looking at her tits, he would claim it was research, see you don't have age verification on your site, and sue you, just like what happened to Met Art. You would have to prove that your AVS is in place, and working.

Of course not. You have to have 18 USC on your site and make sure you have the photo ID's of your models, right? It's not up to the processors. And besides, they don't want to be responsible to verify the age of your website customers, let alone your website visitors. The responsibility is completely on you my friend.

of course and you sell an overprice AV service:)


Every 3-4 years a "anti-porn" law is going to "terminate" the industry and here we are making more money than the prior year, elections are next year, politicians are just doing campaigns. They real "law" is the cc processor and the only one you should fear is your industry "peers".:2 cents:

You are mixing up 2257 and Age Verification. I do not have to prove to the visitor if the models are over 18 but the visitor has to prove to me he/she is over 18, right?

Then if you have a SFW tour with little to no nudity or sex acts displayed (descriptions are apparently fine) then when it comes time to get behind the pay wall that's when the age verification should kick in, and that should be the responsibility of the payment processors who are actually accepting the money and holding the cc info. :2 cents:

I don't write the bylines, I just click the X share on the article... that was a the byline in the article, I don't edit them.... and since I have clients everywhere, I share articles from all over the world.

Up until a few months ago, I though this law would be overturned. But with the recent SCOTUS decisions I am doubting that now and now especially how they sent this back to the Fifth Circuit in Texas. This isn't a 6-3 Republican court. This is a 5-4 court and it can go either way on any issue.

The only way it could be enforced is through lawsuits. No one is going to knock on your door though other than a process server. I doubt that private attorneys will waste their time with these lawsuit but City Attorneys might...

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/0...nudes-00174487

actually, I do agree with this, it should be down the the payment company, however...

sadly, it´s not.

It is down to the site owner to have AV to verify the age of the surfer. I would have thought it´s because every porn sites needs the AV even free porn sites, whether payment is processed or not.

If anyone wants out, see sig . . .

Prompt: Diagram this whole flow that bro is talking about visually and sketch up some quick example code structures. Reply to me like this is an opportunity to get rich, and make it bbcode so I can copy your reply from here and paste it on a forum: (pastes Marks entire post)

ChatGPT:

[Project Drop] Universal Age Verification System for Adult Sites
A Million-Dollar SaaS Idea Built for the New Laws

[hr]

https://i.ibb.co/nWBh17b/deh.png

The Problem
New age verification laws are cracking down across the U.S., UK, and beyond.
Adult site owners are scrambling. Traffic is dropping. Lawsuits are looming.

Most of them:

• Have no technical ability to implement age verification
• Don't want to spend $1,000s building custom solutions
• Just need something simple that works

[hr]

The Opportunity
What if you built a drop-in age verification system that works for any adult site?

Not just a WordPress plugin — but a universal copy/paste script they can use in 60 seconds.
Think Google Analytics... but for age compliance.

[hr]

Flow Diagram: How It Works

[hr]

MVP Flow (Backend + Frontend)

1. User visits site
2. JS Snippet runs → Geo check
3. If restricted state → Show modal
4. User verifies age via ID or selfie
5. Your backend issues a secure token
6. Token passed to billing (CCBill, Segpay, etc.)
7. Token is bound to user after purchase
8. Access granted to members area

[hr]

Tech Stack Recommendation

[hr]

Client Integration (One Line of Code)

What it does:

• Detects geo region
• Shows age modal if needed
• Handles verification + token
• Securely stores age verification
• Passes it to the site’s billing system

[hr]

Admin Panel for Site Owners

• Get embed code
• View verification logs
• Customize logo/colors (Pro/Agency tier)
• Export compliance logs
• API access for advanced devs

[hr]

Monetization Plan

[hr]

What’s Next
I’m building this to help adult site owners stay compliant and online — fast.
If you're interested in:

• Beta access
• Referrals / affiliate program
• Becoming a launch partner

DM me or reply here. Let’s talk.

[hr]

Let me know if you want a custom landing page, pitch deck, or actual MVP repo next.

Prompt: More

ChatGPT:

Phase 1: System Architecture Overview
Frontend (Embed on Any Site)
1 JavaScript snippet to load everything:

html
Copy
Edit
<script src="https://yourdomain.com/agegate.js" defer></script>
Shows age gate modal

Handles UI logic and token storage (cookie/localStorage)

Backend (Your SaaS Service)
REST API for:

GeoIP lookup

Age verification initiation/status

Token issuance

Token validation

Admin panel for client sites to:

Register site

Get their embed code

Monitor verification logs

Customize branding (optional)

Phase 2: Technology Stack
Layer Tech (recommended)
Frontend JS Vanilla JS or React (for modal)
Backend API Node.js + Express or FastAPI (Python)
Auth/Tokens JWT (signed, expiring access tokens)
DB PostgreSQL (store verifications, tokens)
CDN/Deploy Vercel/Render for frontend, Railway/Render for backend
GeoIP IPinfo, MaxMind, or ipapi
Age Check Yoti API, Veriff API
Phase 3: Flow in Code Terms
1. User Loads the Page
Your script loads, checks location:

js
Copy
Edit
fetch('https://your-api.com/geoip?ip=USER_IP')
.then(res => res.json())
.then(({ requiresVerification }) => {
if (requiresVerification) showAgeGateModal();
});
2. User Completes Verification
Modal pops up → embedded Yoti SDK:

js
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Edit
Yoti.startVerification({ client_id: "your_client_id" })
Once verified, your backend gets the callback.

3. Backend Issues Token
js
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Edit
const jwt = sign({
user_id: anonId,
age_verified: true,
region: "US-FL"
}, JWT_SECRET, { expiresIn: "30d" });
Stored as:

json
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{
token: "abc123...",
site_id: "example.com",
verified_at: "2025-04-04T12:00",
verification_method: "Yoti"
}
4. Client Site Receives Verified Token
You set a secure cookie or give them:

js
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window.localStorage.setItem("ageToken", token);
5. On Purchase or Member Login
Client sends:

http
Copy
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POST /validate-token
Authorization: Bearer abc123...
You verify:

js
Copy
Edit
jwt.verify(token, JWT_SECRET)
If valid: allow access.

Phase 4: Admin Dashboard for Clients
Allow clients to:

Add domains

View token logs

Get their embed code

Manage plans (Stripe integration)

Use:

React + Tailwind

Supabase/Auth for quick user management

Stripe for billing/subscription

Phase 5: Monetization Plan
Free plan: Basic click-to-enter modal

Starter: $19/mo — token + soft compliance

Pro: $49–99/mo — ID verification, analytics, legal templates

Agency: $499+/mo — white-labeled, multi-site dashboard

What’s Next
I can:

Sketch the full code repo structure

Draft your first frontend embed script

Write your backend API endpoint structure

Design the admin dashboard

Build a landing page for sales

Which piece do you want to dive into first?

Paying with a CC is kind of age verification.

They can't be made responsible for your free tour and that seems to be the main target of the law.

Ues - which is why free tube sites would have to change their thumbnail-heavy homepages and paysites could show zero nudity.

I do love when people use the argument "there are millions of porn sites all over the world it's impossible to enforce"

Some of us own public brands based in western countries with millions of dollars in revenue that we pay taxes on, and our name on the company filings. Obviously these threads aren't for Fernando Fucksticks in eastern europe doing $100/mo with his chaturbate whitelabel.

Also I hate that a DVTimes news spam thread is getting traction.

Mind if I use this for my next onscreen porn persona? I actually have a sombrero ready to go.

Or is it TM'd already? :1orglaugh

I agree with you 100% on this.

as said above, I agree it should be down to payments, however, the screening isn´t always on payment accounts, it´s to age verify all porn sites, inc. free sites, tubes & blogs, any site with pornographic content, so therefore, it´s not the payment processor, it´s the site owner´s responsibility :2 cents:

The worst part about all of this is... none of it will bring back Gorilla Gras. The greatest adult entertainment website of all time.

RIP.

nvm 8char

This is how my login software is setup. After login and 2FA, age verification runs and if the service you pay for says they're above age, they receive full access.

And nobody seems concerned thinking about old men in their 80s drooling while seeing pussies of girls in their 20s. :stoned

I believe I saw one attorney say that blocking places isn't going to be good enough.

The whole thing will be moot IF the Supreme Court rules in our favor. But if they don't...then we will all have to do something for AV

I was told that blocking won't work, that having a "clean" tour won't work (because there is porn in the members area)

Pretty much every common sense thing you can think of...won't work.
And that's because it's not about keeping kids off of porn sites. It's about shutting us down.
And the math doesn't work for paying for AV either.

This isn't 1999 and we're all making so much money we don't know what to do with it. We all know that "Free" porn on torrents and now tube sites destroyed sales.

So now there just isn't enough money. I did some quick math with our traffic analytics, and figured our little site would spend $2,000 PER DAY with the cheapest AV solution.
I can't afford that.

AV is to restrict minors from viewing porn.

With a clean tour & no porn seen until payment is accepted, allowing access to the subscriber to the members area, should be enough to stay within the law to only accepting credit card payment after AV has been approved.

Due to the clean tour, most of your traffic would not need to be approved, this would only be those stepping into the payment "join subscription".

The $2000 a day is very unlikely, unless you have 2000 subscribers daily, if so, the loss of 50cents a subscriber is little to lose :thumbsup

Lots of people running the AV check after credit card approval.

You hit the nail on the head. AV laws have NEVER been about protecting children. If governments actually wanted to do that, they could implement age verification at the device level and call it a day.

All the current laws are 100% about optics and we’re the ones paying the price for it.

If you look at all the state laws, you’ll understand that it’s impossible to comply with all of them.. and thats by design.

Our industry is under attack. Plain and simple

I blame Only Fans.

I blame ignorant parents giving pre paid phones to their children :disgust


Why do kids of 12 need mobiles, yes, to contact their parents, cool, yes maybe to speak with a friend, but nothing wrong with getting on a bike and going around their house & knocking on the door...

why do kids sit in their bedrooms texting & surfing all day & night, not out enjoying life :Oh crap


Rich parents give these presents to their kids & then the blame porn sites for being because their children surfed some porn site...

PUT PARENTAL CONTROL on the internet & the phone...

LOCK it to just calling friends & family!


You don´t send your kid into the tobacconist for your cigs or beer, they go into a newsagents for sweets!


Half the kids surfing porn probably turn out to be great people anyway, and half probably steal from the local shops & rob the next door neighbours, hey, blame the porn, although those kids stealing, would probably steal without a phone or seeing porn! :helpme

They should do it like Israel. Technically block all pornsites on internet provider level.
So when you book you internet tariff you can simply choose if you want to have it unblocked. It also would be smarter as then also the offshore pirate sites are IP blocked.

Putting the responsibility on pornsite owners seems really to bully them, end of the day most small sites will suffer most and be pushed out of the market and the big players will just get even fatter.

It's not overpriced, it's a vertical market. If the yearly price is too high for you, I can provide it at a monthly price instead, and even give you a free trial so you can make sure it works the way you need it to.

No dude, thats a mistake. Like any other industry, there are regulations to follow which are put in place for pretty good reasons. If you don't want to comply then you are taking chances. Why risk losing your business?

No I'm not. You said "shouldn't the cc processors (CCBill, Epoch, merch accounts, etc) be doing the age verification anyway?". My answer was to that.

Correct. You have to declare, via 2257, that the models are 18. And now, you have to be ready to prove, that *member* Dave Smith is over 18, and you now have to prove that *visitor* Joe Blow from Florida, is an adult too.


It must contain no nudity, and no, descriptions are not fine. Kris Kobach, the Republican (of course) Kansas Attorney General, has sued Met Art (SARJ LC)

https://www.wibw.com/2025/01/14/kris...site-operator/

Besides the image content, Paragraph 22 of the lawsuit says : "22. For illustration, on sexart.com’s “About Us” page, it advertises an “unrivalled collection of erotic 4K movies [that] brings together the best naturally sexy models, so whether you prefer voluptuous sirens or perky cheerleader types, you are sure to find your dream girl in action here.” One can “[w]atch genuine lesbians lick each other to intense orgasms, and horny cuties give their male lovers the ride of their lives. There’s plenty of superb group sex too, as [Defendant’s] adventurous beauties live out their wildest fantasies."



That would be awesome but of course that would not work. You would be making them legally responsible for your content. *You* are the one that has to be responsible for your content. The payment processor isn't selling your content, they are acting as the payment processor only.

As someone who knowingly voted for this to pwn da libz, how are you feeling about this lib industry you're in starting to actually be pwnd now like you voted for?

😎🍿

it´s not going to be like Israel, the world agrees with porn. It´s because too many under age are viewing porno, as said...

ban cell phones & internet without safe guard until 18, then would be ok :2 cents:

this, 100% :thumbsup

the internet was never intended to be child friendly. it is not a place for kids to peruse unsupervised, it never has been.

this is the equivalent of dropping your kid off at a bookstore that contains an adult section then bitching when they wander in there while you're not paying attention.

^^^ Yup !!! ^^^


Good question. Robbie?

Robbie? Nothing? Crickets?

Has the Met-Art case been settled or ajudicated? Because if not a suit means nothing until a verdict. Plus, that is Kansas, not every State.

But okay I will play along: no nudity, nice words only. Good to go?

And what about X, Instagram, etc? Places that show nudity or near nudity? If they also have to age verify....it will be interesting to see how they fight it.

But as far as the processors go: using that old argument of 'I'm not selling it I'm just collecting the money for it' wouldn't work in a strip club or whorehouse so why would it work for digital media? Supposedly 2257 had a safe harbor provision that the tubes thought they were following by NOT reviewing every video. What happened to all of that?

The real thing here, I think, is how strcit Visa and MC will be. Enforcement is an issue with millions of websites but if Visa/MC lay down 'the law' then everyone who wants processing will have to follow it.

What a shit show, eh? :)

I'm just wondering what kind of free site is actually gonna pay $0.30 per user or even $1k–$5k a year / domain just for people to jerk off on it?

Is there a McDonald’s near you guys?

It's a shitshow yes, but when you think about it, it's (1) expected, and (2), it's not that bad. Kids can get instant access to porn now and while I wouldn't care if my kids saw boobies, I can completely understand why some parents would trip-out.

In a way, we are all really lucky that the new laws are coming into effect now that the technology exists to do whats required.

Cheers.


Where is the price coming from though? Wobbie complained about a crazy-high price earlier in this thread. Whoever quoted you that is bonkers.

Yes but it should be like in Israel as it's the easiest solution without loop holes. Pushing responsibility on website owners just lowers their margin and many small ones will go out of biz.

Also pirate sites are unaffected and will even profit, like Robbie said it's aimed against the legal porn industry.

Total shitshow by cuckservative who don't understand the www.

TikTok and Insta are pure softporn, especially TikTok is full of 16 year old girls showing off camel toe and twerking in yoga pants.

Insta isn't much better, would bet 90% off their in platform traffic circles around women who wear bikinis and sexy dresses. Because that's the easiest way to get followers and likes these days.

But yes porn is the main problem for kids. :)

Here we go, a cheap solution so far, 3 ct per check. Self hosted even for free.

https://go.cam/

not sure why it states...

"and free if you host it on your servers"

is this the certifications...

so your same customer could cost you multiple times if not hosted on your own server?


looks a good choice though :thumbsup

Hey how come you never got an answer?

Did anyone talk to a lawyer to confirm what will be actually enough? If the tour has to be completely SFW or if its fine to blurr the images/videos, so nothing explicit can be seen on the free tour?

But either way, if this is implemented on a large scale, the only ones who will profit from this are the websites hosted offshore, who won't give a fuck about it. And regular surfers will move to those websites...because 99% of people simply won't feel comfortable to verify with their ID on a random porn site. They will rather go elsewhere, so it will be a big loss for the legal side of the business, anyway.

No lawyer can answer 'is SFW is enough' as there have been no cases brought forward about it yet so its yet to be determined.
The best people to ask is the regulator (OFCOM)... but they can't answer this question either!