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Huggles 04-02-2025 10:35 AM

Easiest solution is to have two sites, one site that is open to the world, and a 2nd site where you re-direct everyone that you block access to your first site from, that you funnel to your 2nd site that has nothing but a clothed tour and join page links for XXX sites that people need to sign up on to get access to nude content on.

Simple as.

NatalieK 04-02-2025 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornlaw (Post 23361429)
Once SCOTUS upholds AVS, it wont matter who you vote for. It will be law and it will stay.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 23361472)
100% right... I have a friend who likes porn from a specific model and he has subscribed to her site for years now. Some of her vids are on pornhub but he prefers to watch them on her site.


Sadly you are probably right. Do you think it will become law in all states?

Believe it or not, I don't actually have a problem with this law. If think about it, asking someone to just declare they are 18 to gain access to a site is probably the most rediculous thing in history. Of course 100% of minors seeking porn will click the 18+ button. With all the tech available today, forcing sites to actually do something to prevent access to minors is not unreasonable.

exactly, to all your post, to me, a big thank you for agreeing & proving, from a friend. This is so true & I appreciate the fans I have that prefer this!

To your PornLaw comment, & yes, I do believe, it will be through the world, & why not, when it becomes viable & takes to the EU & most of the US, I´d have thought the world will take this on.

& your own comment, hence why we were happy to go .xxx, before knowing the .com to my site was taken, the .xxx was always an idea we were going to go anyway... to only show my content to surfers looking for porn.

We should protect the youth of today, just making surfing simple, so when looking for porn, you find it, when surfing for a big bush, you can find a green tree growing for education :2 cents:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huggles (Post 23361483)
Easiest solution is to have two sites, one site that is open to the world, and a 2nd site where you re-direct everyone that you block access to your first site from, that you funnel to your 2nd site that has nothing but a clothed tour and join page links for XXX sites that people need to sign up on to get access to nude content on.

Simple as.

this a great idea...

no problem for those with current sites, making a SFW site, like a blog, I´ll probably remove all my filthy images & keep it clean & therefore not need an AV for my blog, shall be accessible & read for anyone, but of course, the filthy text we write without AI, it´s noticably dirty :thumbsup

CyberHustler 04-02-2025 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Huggles (Post 23361310)
Shut the fuck up you fucking whiner.

🤣

As the brokest dude in gfy's history, with daily reminders about it and who's fault it is for us in case we ever forgot for a moment, it's hard to compute how you feel qualified to give this reply... especially in this thread 🤣

That reply is the richest you've been so far. Translate that into a 💰. You're in a privileged position here at the moment as a non-American. Hurry tho, because once we make y'all the 51st state your moment will be up and AV laws will replace the vaccine as your excuse for stuff.

NatalieK 04-02-2025 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberHustler (Post 23361308)
At least da libz got pwnd and Trump saved the world from the Trannies tho. That's the important part.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huggles (Post 23361310)
Shut the fuck up you fucking whiner.

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberHustler (Post 23361525)
🤣

As the brokest dude in gfy's history, with daily reminders about it and who's fault it is for us in case we ever forgot for a moment, it's hard to compute how you feel qualified to give this reply... especially in this thread 🤣

That reply is the richest you've been so far. Translate that into a 💰. You're in a privileged position here at the moment as a non-American. Hurry tho, because once we make y'all the 51st state your moment will be up and AV laws will replace the vaccine as your excuse for stuff.

with all respect CH...

you did post regarding TV! While I personally find TV strange & different, TV´s have a life too & if they want to be as they are, then free will, as is wanting to be a different sex...

Trump´s an ass, he´s destroying the US & the world movement of commodities :2 cents:

It´s not politics here, so your post shouldn´t even be posted here :helpme

And let´s not forget, the "brokest dude" here´s probably DV, the thread owner, so let´s not go down finances :thumbsup


#justsaying

CyberHustler 04-02-2025 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by NatalieK (Post 23361533)
with all respect CH...


https://i.pinimg.com/736x/d2/41/ab/d...2d93fd55e6.jpg

Quote:

you did post regarding TV!

Is TV the new politically correct term for trannies?

Either way, Huggles will be fine. He knows that when we come to liberate, he gets Brian's house.

NatalieK 04-02-2025 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberHustler (Post 23361537)
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/d2/41/ab/d...2d93fd55e6.jpg




Is TV the new politically correct term for trannies?

Either way, Huggles will be fine. He knows that when we come to liberate, he gets Brian's house.

https://cdn.boldomatic.com/content/p...only-one-laugh


I don´t think anyone found your "joke" funny :Oh crap


politically correct or fuckness... :helpme

CyberHustler 04-02-2025 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NatalieK (Post 23361564)

I don´t think anyone found your "joke" funny :Oh crap

That's precisely why this thread exists, Mrs Grump 🤣

NatalieK 04-03-2025 02:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberHustler (Post 23361631)
That's precisely why this thread exists, Mrs Grump 🤣

:1orglaugh :thumbsup :winkwink:

2MuchMark 04-03-2025 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huggles (Post 23361483)
Easiest solution is to have two sites, one site that is open to the world, and a 2nd site where you re-direct everyone that you block access to your first site from, that you funnel to your 2nd site that has nothing but a clothed tour and join page links for XXX sites that people need to sign up on to get access to nude content on.

Simple as.

Yes, but, you still have to verify their age before the signup, and you have to have a token of some kind assigned to that user that proves you did age verification of that paying user.

The flow might look like this:

User from Florida? Yes.
- > SFW Tour -> Ready To Join=Yes? -> AgeVerify>18=Yes? -> Create Token - > Complete Purchase -> Bind Token - > Proceed to Members area.

The idea is that now if the feds knock on your door, they will ask to see that your paying member was actually age verified.

It sounds complicated but it is actually not too hard to do.

xxxclusive 04-03-2025 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NatalieK (Post 23361428)
tbh, there´s millions of people in this world of billions who do like to pay to be honest, like finding a wallet & handing it in or passing the person that dropped that tenner, the note, even if running to get them...

many people do not like to use pirate sites :2 cents:

It's not about all users switching to piracy, but a yet unknown amount will rather use piracy than doing a face id scan.

xxxclusive 04-03-2025 08:18 AM

Wonder what will happen with the adult profiles of X/Twitter

roshnikhanna 04-03-2025 09:37 AM

I'll simply remove all HC pics from the tour, this should be fine for the beginning.

NatalieK 04-03-2025 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxclusive (Post 23361698)
It's not about all users switching to piracy, but a yet unknown amount will rather use piracy than doing a face id scan.

Agreed. Although, piracy´s always been problematic, but yes, seeing your point. It´s possible switching to piracy & sites with stolen content could theoretically become more of a problem & we may see a growth in piracy :Oh crap

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxclusive (Post 23361702)
Wonder what will happen with the adult profiles of X/Twitter

likewise with Whats app & other group chats...

Quote:

Originally Posted by roshnikhanna (Post 23361718)
I'll simply remove all HC pics from the tour, this should be fine for the beginning.

:thumbsup

The Porn Nerd 04-03-2025 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 23361696)
The idea is that now if the feds knock on your door, they will ask to see that your paying member was actually age verified.

Feds are not going to knock on your door. LOL Enforcement is going to be the thing. There are millions upon millions of adult websites on the Web. No one has the resources to police every site. That's why all this nonsense should be handled by the payment gateways.

And shouldn't the cc processors (CCBill, Epoch, merch accounts, etc) be doing the age verification anyway?

Leexxx 04-03-2025 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornlaw (Post 23361429)
Once SCOTUS upholds AVS, it wont matter who you vote for. It will be law and it will stay.


A law that is impossible to enforce. You should stop being a fearmonger, saw your X account and you posted very clickbait article with the tittle "House of Reps orders ban on porn websites, calls for ISP sanctions" then you click and was in NIGERIA.. really????. Everything you post is fear.

2MuchMark 04-03-2025 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxclusive (Post 23361702)
Wonder what will happen with the adult profiles of X/Twitter

Nothing because Twitter isn't selling those images. And besides, Musk will just pay Chump to have anyone who opposes him made dead.

2MuchMark 04-03-2025 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 23361726)
Feds are not going to knock on your door. LOL Enforcement is going to be the thing. There are millions upon millions of adult websites on the Web. No one has the resources to police every site.

Of course they probably won't knock on your door, but I hope you understand what I meant. If your porn site were doing well and you or a model were active on social media and some stuck-up Govenor got caught looking at her tits, he would claim it was research, see you don't have age verification on your site, and sue you, just like what happened to Met Art. You would have to prove that your AVS is in place, and working.

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 23361726)
And shouldn't the cc processors (CCBill, Epoch, merch accounts, etc) be doing the age verification anyway?

Of course not. You have to have 18 USC on your site and make sure you have the photo ID's of your models, right? It's not up to the processors. And besides, they don't want to be responsible to verify the age of your website customers, let alone your website visitors. The responsibility is completely on you my friend.

Leexxx 04-03-2025 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 23361747)
Of course they probably won't knock on your door, but I hope you understand what I meant. If your porn site were doing well and you or a model were active on social media and some stuck-up Govenor got caught looking at her tits, he would claim it was research, see you don't have age verification on your site, and sue you, just like what happened to Met Art. You would have to prove that your AVS is in place, and working.



Of course not. You have to have 18 USC on your site and make sure you have the photo ID's of your models, right? It's not up to the processors. And besides, they don't want to be responsible to verify the age of your website customers, let alone your website visitors. The responsibility is completely on you my friend.

of course and you sell an overprice AV service:)


Every 3-4 years a "anti-porn" law is going to "terminate" the industry and here we are making more money than the prior year, elections are next year, politicians are just doing campaigns. They real "law" is the cc processor and the only one you should fear is your industry "peers".:2 cents:

The Porn Nerd 04-03-2025 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 23361747)

Of course not. You have to have 18 USC on your site and make sure you have the photo ID's of your models, right? It's not up to the processors. And besides, they don't want to be responsible to verify the age of your website customers, let alone your website visitors. The responsibility is completely on you my friend.

You are mixing up 2257 and Age Verification. I do not have to prove to the visitor if the models are over 18 but the visitor has to prove to me he/she is over 18, right?

Then if you have a SFW tour with little to no nudity or sex acts displayed (descriptions are apparently fine) then when it comes time to get behind the pay wall that's when the age verification should kick in, and that should be the responsibility of the payment processors who are actually accepting the money and holding the cc info. :2 cents:

pornlaw 04-03-2025 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leexxx (Post 23361733)
A law that is impossible to enforce. You should stop being a fearmonger, saw your X account and you posted very clickbait article with the tittle "House of Reps orders ban on porn websites, calls for ISP sanctions" then you click and was in NIGERIA.. really????. Everything you post is fear.

I don't write the bylines, I just click the X share on the article... that was a the byline in the article, I don't edit them.... and since I have clients everywhere, I share articles from all over the world.

Up until a few months ago, I though this law would be overturned. But with the recent SCOTUS decisions I am doubting that now and now especially how they sent this back to the Fifth Circuit in Texas. This isn't a 6-3 Republican court. This is a 5-4 court and it can go either way on any issue.

pornlaw 04-03-2025 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 23361726)
Feds are not going to knock on your door. LOL Enforcement is going to be the thing. There are millions upon millions of adult websites on the Web. No one has the resources to police every site. That's why all this nonsense should be handled by the payment gateways.

And shouldn't the cc processors (CCBill, Epoch, merch accounts, etc) be doing the age verification anyway?

The only way it could be enforced is through lawsuits. No one is going to knock on your door though other than a process server. I doubt that private attorneys will waste their time with these lawsuit but City Attorneys might...

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/0...nudes-00174487

NatalieK 04-03-2025 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 23361793)
You are mixing up 2257 and Age Verification. I do not have to prove to the visitor if the models are over 18 but the visitor has to prove to me he/she is over 18, right?

Then if you have a SFW tour with little to no nudity or sex acts displayed (descriptions are apparently fine) then when it comes time to get behind the pay wall that's when the age verification should kick in, and that should be the responsibility of the payment processors who are actually accepting the money and holding the cc info. :2 cents:


actually, I do agree with this, it should be down the the payment company, however...

sadly, it´s not.

It is down to the site owner to have AV to verify the age of the surfer. I would have thought it´s because every porn sites needs the AV even free porn sites, whether payment is processed or not.

CaptainHowdy 04-03-2025 04:32 PM

If anyone wants out, see sig . . .

CyberHustler 04-03-2025 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 23361696)
Yes, but, you still have to verify their age before the signup, and you have to have a token of some kind assigned to that user that proves you did age verification of that paying user.

The flow might look like this:

User from Florida? Yes.
- > SFW Tour -> Ready To Join=Yes? -> AgeVerify>18=Yes? -> Create Token - > Complete Purchase -> Bind Token - > Proceed to Members area.

The idea is that now if the feds knock on your door, they will ask to see that your paying member was actually age verified.

It sounds complicated but it is actually not too hard to do.

Prompt: Diagram this whole flow that bro is talking about visually and sketch up some quick example code structures. Reply to me like this is an opportunity to get rich, and make it bbcode so I can copy your reply from here and paste it on a forum: (pastes Marks entire post)

ChatGPT:

[Project Drop] Universal Age Verification System for Adult Sites
A Million-Dollar SaaS Idea Built for the New Laws

[hr]

https://i.ibb.co/nWBh17b/deh.png

The Problem
New age verification laws are cracking down across the U.S., UK, and beyond.
Adult site owners are scrambling. Traffic is dropping. Lawsuits are looming.

Most of them:
  • Have no technical ability to implement age verification
  • Don't want to spend $1,000s building custom solutions
  • Just need something simple that works

[hr]

The Opportunity
What if you built a drop-in age verification system that works for any adult site?

Not just a WordPress plugin — but a universal copy/paste script they can use in 60 seconds.
Think Google Analytics... but for age compliance.

[hr]

Flow Diagram: How It Works

Code:

User visits site
 ↓
Geo Check (e.g. FL, UK?)
 ↓
Yes → Require Age Verification
No  → Soft Gate / Optional
 ↓
SFW Tour (optional)
 ↓
"Ready to Join?" Prompt
 ↓
Age Verification (Yoti, Veriff)
 ↓
Create Token
 ↓
Complete Purchase
 ↓
Bind Token to User
 ↓
Access Members Area

[hr]

MVP Flow (Backend + Frontend)
  1. User visits site
  2. JS Snippet runs → Geo check
  3. If restricted state → Show modal
  4. User verifies age via ID or selfie
  5. Your backend issues a secure token
  6. Token passed to billing (CCBill, Segpay, etc.)
  7. Token is bound to user after purchase
  8. Access granted to members area

[hr]

Tech Stack Recommendation

Code:

Frontend JS  → Vanilla JS or React
Modal/Embed  → Custom JS + CSS (one-liner)
Backend API  → Node.js + Express OR FastAPI
Token System  → JWT (signed)
Age Verify    → Yoti or Veriff API
GeoIP        → IPinfo / MaxMind / ipapi
DB            → PostgreSQL
Admin Panel  → Supabase or React + Firebase
Payments      → Stripe (for your SaaS billing)

[hr]

Client Integration (One Line of Code)

Code:

<script src="https://yourdomain.com/agegate.js" defer></script>
What it does:
  • Detects geo region
  • Shows age modal if needed
  • Handles verification + token
  • Securely stores age verification
  • Passes it to the site’s billing system

[hr]

Admin Panel for Site Owners
  • Get embed code
  • View verification logs
  • Customize logo/colors (Pro/Agency tier)
  • Export compliance logs
  • API access for advanced devs

[hr]

Monetization Plan

Code:

Free      → $0        → Click-to-confirm modal only
Starter  → $19/mo    → Token-based flow, basic logging
Pro      → $49–99/mo → Full ID verification, logs, branding
Agency    → $499+/mo  → Multi-site, white-label, API access

[hr]

What’s Next
I’m building this to help adult site owners stay compliant and online — fast.
If you're interested in:
  • Beta access
  • Referrals / affiliate program
  • Becoming a launch partner

DM me or reply here. Let’s talk.

[hr]

Let me know if you want a custom landing page, pitch deck, or actual MVP repo next.

Prompt: More

ChatGPT:

Phase 1: System Architecture Overview
Frontend (Embed on Any Site)
1 JavaScript snippet to load everything:

html
Copy
Edit
<script src="https://yourdomain.com/agegate.js" defer></script>
Shows age gate modal

Handles UI logic and token storage (cookie/localStorage)

Backend (Your SaaS Service)
REST API for:

GeoIP lookup

Age verification initiation/status

Token issuance

Token validation

Admin panel for client sites to:

Register site

Get their embed code

Monitor verification logs

Customize branding (optional)

Phase 2: Technology Stack
Layer Tech (recommended)
Frontend JS Vanilla JS or React (for modal)
Backend API Node.js + Express or FastAPI (Python)
Auth/Tokens JWT (signed, expiring access tokens)
DB PostgreSQL (store verifications, tokens)
CDN/Deploy Vercel/Render for frontend, Railway/Render for backend
GeoIP IPinfo, MaxMind, or ipapi
Age Check Yoti API, Veriff API
Phase 3: Flow in Code Terms
1. User Loads the Page
Your script loads, checks location:

js
Copy
Edit
fetch('https://your-api.com/geoip?ip=USER_IP')
.then(res => res.json())
.then(({ requiresVerification }) => {
if (requiresVerification) showAgeGateModal();
});
2. User Completes Verification
Modal pops up → embedded Yoti SDK:

js
Copy
Edit
Yoti.startVerification({ client_id: "your_client_id" })
Once verified, your backend gets the callback.

3. Backend Issues Token
js
Copy
Edit
const jwt = sign({
user_id: anonId,
age_verified: true,
region: "US-FL"
}, JWT_SECRET, { expiresIn: "30d" });
Stored as:

json
Copy
Edit
{
token: "abc123...",
site_id: "example.com",
verified_at: "2025-04-04T12:00",
verification_method: "Yoti"
}
4. Client Site Receives Verified Token
You set a secure cookie or give them:

js
Copy
Edit
window.localStorage.setItem("ageToken", token);
5. On Purchase or Member Login
Client sends:

http
Copy
Edit
POST /validate-token
Authorization: Bearer abc123...
You verify:

js
Copy
Edit
jwt.verify(token, JWT_SECRET)
If valid: allow access.

Phase 4: Admin Dashboard for Clients
Allow clients to:

Add domains

View token logs

Get their embed code

Manage plans (Stripe integration)

Use:

React + Tailwind

Supabase/Auth for quick user management

Stripe for billing/subscription

Phase 5: Monetization Plan
Free plan: Basic click-to-enter modal

Starter: $19/mo — token + soft compliance

Pro: $49–99/mo — ID verification, analytics, legal templates

Agency: $499+/mo — white-labeled, multi-site dashboard

What’s Next
I can:

Sketch the full code repo structure

Draft your first frontend embed script

Write your backend API endpoint structure

Design the admin dashboard

Build a landing page for sales

Which piece do you want to dive into first?

xxxclusive 04-04-2025 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 23361726)
Feds are not going to knock on your door. LOL Enforcement is going to be the thing. There are millions upon millions of adult websites on the Web. No one has the resources to police every site. That's why all this nonsense should be handled by the payment gateways.

And shouldn't the cc processors (CCBill, Epoch, merch accounts, etc) be doing the age verification anyway?


Paying with a CC is kind of age verification.

They can't be made responsible for your free tour and that seems to be the main target of the law.

The Porn Nerd 04-04-2025 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxclusive (Post 23362058)
Paying with a CC is kind of age verification.

They can't be made responsible for your free tour and that seems to be the main target of the law.

Ues - which is why free tube sites would have to change their thumbnail-heavy homepages and paysites could show zero nudity.

fuzebox 04-04-2025 09:52 AM

I do love when people use the argument "there are millions of porn sites all over the world it's impossible to enforce"

Some of us own public brands based in western countries with millions of dollars in revenue that we pay taxes on, and our name on the company filings. Obviously these threads aren't for Fernando Fucksticks in eastern europe doing $100/mo with his chaturbate whitelabel.

Also I hate that a DVTimes news spam thread is getting traction.

The Porn Nerd 04-04-2025 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 23362087)
...Fernando Fucksticks...

Mind if I use this for my next onscreen porn persona? I actually have a sombrero ready to go.

Or is it TM'd already? :1orglaugh

mrmarlowe 04-04-2025 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 23361793)
You are mixing up 2257 and Age Verification. I do not have to prove to the visitor if the models are over 18 but the visitor has to prove to me he/she is over 18, right?

Then if you have a SFW tour with little to no nudity or sex acts displayed (descriptions are apparently fine) then when it comes time to get behind the pay wall that's when the age verification should kick in, and that should be the responsibility of the payment processors who are actually accepting the money and holding the cc info. :2 cents:

I agree with you 100% on this.

NatalieK 04-04-2025 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrmarlowe (Post 23362172)
I agree with you 100% on this.

as said above, I agree it should be down to payments, however, the screening isn´t always on payment accounts, it´s to age verify all porn sites, inc. free sites, tubes & blogs, any site with pornographic content, so therefore, it´s not the payment processor, it´s the site owner´s responsibility :2 cents:

Huggles 04-04-2025 03:02 PM

The worst part about all of this is... none of it will bring back Gorilla Gras. The greatest adult entertainment website of all time.

RIP.

AmateurFlix 04-04-2025 07:41 PM

nvm 8char

cerulean 04-04-2025 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 23361793)
You are mixing up 2257 and Age Verification. I do not have to prove to the visitor if the models are over 18 but the visitor has to prove to me he/she is over 18, right?

Then if you have a SFW tour with little to no nudity or sex acts displayed (descriptions are apparently fine) then when it comes time to get behind the pay wall that's when the age verification should kick in, and that should be the responsibility of the payment processors who are actually accepting the money and holding the cc info. :2 cents:

This is how my login software is setup. After login and 2FA, age verification runs and if the service you pay for says they're above age, they receive full access.

Look Chang 04-04-2025 10:36 PM

And nobody seems concerned thinking about old men in their 80s drooling while seeing pussies of girls in their 20s. :stoned

Robbie 04-04-2025 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yanks_Todd (Post 23360814)
I agree with most of this, but I would say it is useful to comply with some states. TN is blocked for us.

I believe I saw one attorney say that blocking places isn't going to be good enough.

The whole thing will be moot IF the Supreme Court rules in our favor. But if they don't...then we will all have to do something for AV

I was told that blocking won't work, that having a "clean" tour won't work (because there is porn in the members area)

Pretty much every common sense thing you can think of...won't work.
And that's because it's not about keeping kids off of porn sites. It's about shutting us down.
And the math doesn't work for paying for AV either.

This isn't 1999 and we're all making so much money we don't know what to do with it. We all know that "Free" porn on torrents and now tube sites destroyed sales.

So now there just isn't enough money. I did some quick math with our traffic analytics, and figured our little site would spend $2,000 PER DAY with the cheapest AV solution.
I can't afford that.

NatalieK 04-05-2025 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 23362269)
I was told that blocking won't work, that having a "clean" tour won't work (because there is porn in the members area)
.

AV is to restrict minors from viewing porn.

With a clean tour & no porn seen until payment is accepted, allowing access to the subscriber to the members area, should be enough to stay within the law to only accepting credit card payment after AV has been approved.

Due to the clean tour, most of your traffic would not need to be approved, this would only be those stepping into the payment "join subscription".

The $2000 a day is very unlikely, unless you have 2000 subscribers daily, if so, the loss of 50cents a subscriber is little to lose :thumbsup

fuzebox 04-05-2025 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 23362269)
So now there just isn't enough money. I did some quick math with our traffic analytics, and figured our little site would spend $2,000 PER DAY with the cheapest AV solution.
I can't afford that.

Lots of people running the AV check after credit card approval.

NoWhErE 04-05-2025 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 23362269)
Pretty much every common sense thing you can think of...won't work.
And that's because it's not about keeping kids off of porn sites. It's about shutting us down.

You hit the nail on the head. AV laws have NEVER been about protecting children. If governments actually wanted to do that, they could implement age verification at the device level and call it a day.

All the current laws are 100% about optics and we’re the ones paying the price for it.

If you look at all the state laws, you’ll understand that it’s impossible to comply with all of them.. and thats by design.

Our industry is under attack. Plain and simple

The Porn Nerd 04-05-2025 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by NoWhErE (Post 23362411)
You hit the nail on the head. AV laws have NEVER been about protecting children. If governments actually wanted to do that, they could implement age verification at the device level and call it a day.

All the current laws are 100% about optics and we’re the ones paying the price for it.

If you look at all the state laws, you’ll understand that it’s impossible to comply with all of them.. and thats by design.

Our industry is under attack. Plain and simple

I blame Only Fans.

NatalieK 04-06-2025 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 23362418)
I blame Only Fans.

I blame ignorant parents giving pre paid phones to their children :disgust


Why do kids of 12 need mobiles, yes, to contact their parents, cool, yes maybe to speak with a friend, but nothing wrong with getting on a bike and going around their house & knocking on the door...

why do kids sit in their bedrooms texting & surfing all day & night, not out enjoying life :Oh crap


Rich parents give these presents to their kids & then the blame porn sites for being because their children surfed some porn site...

PUT PARENTAL CONTROL on the internet & the phone...

LOCK it to just calling friends & family!


You don´t send your kid into the tobacconist for your cigs or beer, they go into a newsagents for sweets!


Half the kids surfing porn probably turn out to be great people anyway, and half probably steal from the local shops & rob the next door neighbours, hey, blame the porn, although those kids stealing, would probably steal without a phone or seeing porn! :helpme


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