Sigurd - 4Pics is absolutely right. We can add any processor at any time. However, we dont see that as a huge benefit, UNLESSS you have certain restrictions or a special relationship with a processor not already implemented. We have a great relationship with the processors in the cascading and we will always assess them as we go to make sure that MPA2 will have the most solid processors for our clients. 4pics... thank you for the props. We think so too :)

For our processors, keep up the good work!

As for our source code... well, do you have the source code to the operating system on your Windows machine? We protect our property as well as making sure our clients cannot go in and change the program so that it stops working, then run to us and complain - That would be a huge headache and not good for neither us nor our clients. Just as we made a program that puts the webmaster in full control, we want the same control over our property and thats really it in that aspect.


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But does it allow for multiple tours? also isolating the join page like ARS' script?

PimpLink - Yes. That can be done upon request ;-)

He he he Sigurd, I think I will hire you in my marketing team. The way you show "all" your customers was very smart. You have something like 3 companies in total using your program, but then you have also listed all the sites in those 3 programs to as "companies",, Very creative :)

WebAdmin allows to make multiple tours very easy :)

Oystein, that's ok, but you didn't answer my question! If you have TRUE cascade, so don't you break VISA rules or you have any agreements with VISA?

That's ok, garry, but my salary is very big!!! :winkwink:
And my way of showing our customers was already discussed later, so it's not your windfall! :) And if you counted well, you would find 9 real partnership programs in this list, and as I said before, it's not a full list, and if there is someone, who is interested in full list, he can just contact me! So, I think, it's not a problem!

Sigurd - this is a chat board. I do not reveal business secrets on a chat board. I am sure you understand that, at least...

MPA2 is completely compliant with all regulations currently imposed by any authorities in the billing industry.

Question for you: Where are you located?

Sigurd, I've talked to deaf, mute 3-month old babies that make more sense than you.

Speeky de inglish?

Ok, I trust you, Oystein! :)

We are located in Russia, if it is important...

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Reboom are traphica are two that we'd consider using, if we didn't have our own custom system. I have nothing against Mansion, wasn't thrilled at the time I spoke to them about the set-up lag time and some of the features.

I have spoken with wito at length and I am familiar with other systems he has written, he has a very talented team.

- Titus

If I wasn't born in England, it's not a cause to laugh. I speak 5 languages, may be not excellent, but I'm studying, and it's my way, and it is not connected with our business, I think! I didn't have any problems with my English, before I met you :) And everyone understand me :)

Our "lag time" is around 2 weeks after contract initiation - about the same time VISA will use to get you approved for your account with the IPSPs that you need to sign up for (if you havent already) - So lag time is very relative... to how you see it.


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hehehe,, MPA2 allows multiple tours even more easy then that again ;)

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Your babbling has hurt your business. Trust me i know... :Graucho

You guys are just a bunch of pricks....

Lemme correct myself.... i don't know if you guys are pricks... but sigurd and oystein need to go outside and dook it out.... and stop this bs on here....

imo....

Nothing against MPA2... i've spent about a week trying to find another comparable program... and i can't find one... MPA2 found a very untapped market and is capitalizing on it.... and their software is amazing...

MegaPussy -

Stay far away from Traphica, if you search on THIS board for them I think you'll find all less than flattering reviews. MPA2 might take longer to get installed but you have to ask yourself is the small wait worth the significant benefits that they provide over the competition. If you're in the business for the long haul, you'll be careful and make the best decision possible for the long term.

Cheers,

Brad

You are right. It does get tiring getting slammed every time one tries to say something remotely smart on this board. And it is easy to get carried away. Personally I have tried not to slam Sigurd back and ignore it all... but sometimes it is just too tempting when I see the guy over and over and over again, with no substance.

Oh well, it feels good being a prick from time to time. :Graucho

And as long as the discussion is about functionality and performance and not just blabbering about what one have and the other don't, well, then I don't mind at all :winkwink:

As for "dooking it out" - No need. I hope Sigurd and his business does well, because we do need some competition.

And Necoeds - Thank you for the props...! Love will come your way for sure... Drinks on me in Miami...

Brad - Our install only takes a day or so with physical installation - it is the preparation and VISA registration that takes time on top of all our other installations, support, etc... So you are RIGHT ON THE MONEY"

Flipside is: We come, install and leave.........

And Oystein said:"That can be done upon request" :)

Ok, let's stop this fucking flame :) I was not the one, who began to "blab about what one have and the other don't", so... I think, it would be better to finish it.

Will it cost extra?

Has anyone tried RIver STyx? software?

exactly why I prefer using my own script

what are the risks / benefits associated with that?

Customizations normally cost extra. For some things though, we will include in our upgrades, and we assess the best ideas as they come in whether they will be in an upgrade or not. The idea is that MPA2 will grow together with our clients as we go ahead, so current owners as well as new will enjoy a stronger and stronger program every day.

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if you own the script and can do whatever you want with it, there are not much risks....

however if you use mpa2 and such, if for whatever reason they go down, you go down with them...you don't have access to the source code, so if they aren't available to help you out, you're screwed...in the long run, who knows what could happen to these guys...

Flipside to that is the cost associated with trying to make and maintain your own script. I am sure there are quite a few webmasters/companies that have tried to make something that have the functionalities that a program such as MPA2 have - I can tell some stories from current clients, and some from companies that whished they were clients, instead of spending a year trying and failing/or almost making it themselves. It can make sense for some, but for others it doesn't.

Both will work just the same... Just make sure you calculate what you can afford to do before doing it... :2 cents:

Oh, and for companies staying in business or not... that is always a risk, so be sure to look at the companies history.

100 USD an hour vs. 800 USD a month

Wanna do the math? :2 cents:

No one has tried this http://riverstyx.net/index2.html ?

Well, hehe, remember it's not only about companies history but it's more about relying on companies prices. For example, it's only MPA2 who can make customizations to their scripts, so it's $100 per hour for any changes.

I'm not saying this is a bad model, i'm just quoting Oystein:

You are right about that Wito :)

It is a great model. We make money, and our clients make more money.

Let's say that one of our clients want to add a module that will give them better control over their affiliates by adding a security feature for instance. We quote that module to take 10 hours for us to implement and charge our client 1000 USD - Client get the module, better control over his affiliates, less fraud, and in the end make the money back. Module is then guaranteed by Mansion to work as promised.

Flipside - Company own his own script and want to add the same feature and tell his inhouse programmer to do it. Inhouse programmer who is paid on an annual basis does it in 10 hours. Inhouse programmer maintains the module and make sure it always works as promised. After module is implemented and script continues to work - inhouse programmer keeps on working on maintaining script + other tasks he might have in his daily job. Still gets a salary...

As I said, the choice is there and I respect either :winkwink:

We have other episodes where a client has come to us with a module they want buildt and we think it is so smart that we give them a huge hourly discount. This happens more often than not. There are quite a lot of smart webmasters in our community and the good ideas are many!

Looks like Muir from Adultcash is using it as well as Charlo from MegaPornBucks, Brent and the boyz from Chisel Media - those are the guys I know using it. I will send them this thread and see if they want to comment on it. :)

i think current mpa2 users should get all these add-ons talked about here! :)

Just wait until our next upgrade Darren - there are so many goodies coming! We really listen to what our clients have to say - but I can tell you right now - a lot of what has been talked about here will be on the next upgrade. I just cant tell you exactly which ones yet :winkwink:

How much are upgrades?

Free for customers renting it, and a minor fee per year for those who buy it outright - maintenance fee.

Oystein, I have never used mpa2 but I have heard it was a good program :)
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Brian, love you man - but the question was about your experience with the RSClickThru affilliate program from RiverStyx :winkwink: