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black holes are just too crazy.
some theories say that when you go in a blackhole, you get teleported to another blackhole in the universe (theory of star trek, wich I never watch btw)

see you scientists in the morning.

you too buddy,
Im gonna go sleep too

it was nice debating with ya :thumbsup

thanx to everyone else who participated, it was great to hear your insight!

Light is affected by gravity......

In Steven Hawkings Book Universe in a Nutshell they talk about how they have proof that light waves bend and contort around black holes, and massive objects in space.

i said that twice that it bends,
u could have at least refered to my post

Is going through time the same as going through space?

I mean, if you think about it.. the Earth rotates at thousands of miles per hour and it also goes around the sun at an even faster rate...

so logically.. if you travel through time even so much as 10 minutes.... you'd either be somewhere in the middle of the planet or out in space... as the Earth will have moved, but you haven't.

Now, speeding up time, or slowing it down... then you you aren't time travelling, just changing it's rate.

But to jump from one point in time to another, you would theoretically be in the exact same place as when you left... and Earth... would be in a different place.

All that you guys have said is true, but how is this going to help me get laid?

whip out your stamp collection...

chicks dig that :thumbsup

ok..now if i'm on a boat, there's no wind, so I decide to turn on my big fan, and place it so the wind from the fan hits the sails...would you be able to move? if the fan is ON the boat??

Well..I guess you wont hehe...:winkwink:

but how the fuck does this keep my beer colder and longer ??????????????????

Speed of lights ain't that fast.
It still would take you hundreds of years to reach some distant stars (most of the stars you in the sky have died many many years ago, but their light has reached us only now)

what we need is to fold space.

lol everyone is re saying wat i said 5 times over,
but its all good i dont read it all either.

speed has nothing to do with "time"...In fact, there is no such thing as "time"....Time is just something that we humans have created to measure age and how things progress...It just so happens that it's based on the complete revolution of the earth around the sun....

And as I said, there is no time.....the world is in a constant state and just is....humans and animals come and go due to cells dividing until they can't divide anymore...

So going real fast to bend "time" is improbable since there is no such thing as "time"...Now you might be able to go fast enough to enter another dimension or you might one day be able to change your particle composition to enter other dimensions and to transport yourself from one place to another, but that's all speed will probably be able to do for you.

so there is no such thing as time, BUT its possible to measure it? that makes sense doesnt it.. think before you post.

LOL, I didn't feel like reading 4 pages first thing in the morning :winkwink:

no...you need to think and read before YOU post...I NEVER said that it was "possible" to measure time...I said that is an arbitrary figure that human beings have created to measure the progression of age..I said that people,animals, and certain things age....that has NOTHING to do with "time" because the world just is....

you cant say time is not real, thats like saying 12clicks' ice cream wasnt real.

wrong, it´s

<h1>e=mc²</h1>

No, time does exist... it's what keeps everything from happening all at once.

"time" is just the word that we've given it because otherwise... we'd just have to refer to it as.... it

I mean, there's air... but we called it air... so does that make it a man made thing?

Time exists and happens... the universe has been expanding for a long time... had we discovered that fact before the Earth around the sun thing.. we'd probably measure it differently... but it would still be the same thing, and happen at the same rate and still be there, whether we figured it out or not.

I would have to agree with 12clicks on this one.

Light travels at 300,000 kilometres per second.

If I was going the speed of light I would go 18,000,000 kilometers in one minute.

Now let's say I leave my house at 5:00. I am going to zig zag around the earth at the speed of light and get back to my house exactly 1 minute later. I tell my wife "I'll see you in a minute" and I take off. I go 18,000,000 miles coming back to my house in exactly 1 minute.

By mans measurement of time my wife is 1 minute older, and so am I. Who gives a fuck about anything in between.

the universe expanding has nothing to do with "time"...that's just the universe expanding...that's a physical occurrence....

We NEED air to breathe....

And how can everything happen at once without time?

BUT your wife is on the planet earth which is moving. its not going to be in the exact same place 1 minute later.. it may be closer or farther away from where you left it depending on which direction you went.

ahhhhh, more fuel for my fire. if the earth is traveling thru space at thousands of miles an hour and another planet is traveling at tens of thousands of miles an hour but both planets were formed on the same day, are they the same age or is the faster planet younger?

You see, I'm right and Einstein is wrong. :Graucho

12 clciks,
are you having problems with Einstein just because he was Jewish?????
;-)))

If you figure out the whole time travel thing, let me know I want to go back and start playboy before Heffner :)

Hey, some of my best friends are jews.

OK and I may sound stupid for saying this but I am thinking out loud.

If you say it takes 8 minutes for light to reach the earth, and in fact you can travel at the speed of light. Would you not be traveling back in time 8 minutes when you reached the sun?

Does this mean that guy who travelled back in time and made a killing in the stock market was a hoax??

If you say it takes 8 minutes for me to drive to work, and in fact you can make the trip in 7 minutes. Would you not be traveling back in time 1 minute when you reached the office?


No, you would just be seeing light in realtime as opposed to an 8 minute delay. Time is not affected by when you SEE something.

sadly, yes.

Here is an interesting read if someone hasn't posted this yet.

http://www.geocities.com/paultrr2000/Timetravel.html

Your theory was working really well until you said that.

Sound and light are two TOTALLY different things.

Sound is compression waves in the air. If something happened 45 miles away, someone popped a baloon, you would never hear it because it would lose energy as it travels through the atmosphere.

Sound can't travel through space either, it is a vacuum.

But light is NOT that at all. The nature of light has been debated forever in history, but if you are seriously interested, you should check out:

Wave/Particle Duality
Nature of Light

And if you fire over to your local university, check out any books on time dialation. Great stuff. Who knows if we're right though, as far as man was concerned, we used to be the center of the universe.

You make this statement but you do nothing to prove that my theory is wrong.
If a bullet is fired at 12:00 and you hear it at 12:03 it took sound 3 seconds to travel the distance between you and the gun. If you traveled at the speed of sound towards the gun at 12:00 you HEAR the bullet sooner but it is still fired at 12:00 if you start your journey at 12:01 you will still never get to the gun before it is fired.

If a bullet is fired at 12:00 and you see the flash at 12:03 the light took 3 seconds to travel between you and the gun. If you traveled at the speed of light towards the gun at 12:00 you see the flash sooner but it is still fired at 12:00 if you start your journey at 12:01 you will still never get to the gun before it is fired. The gun is fired at 12:00 no matter how fast you are traveling or how soon you SEE the flash.

5 minutes <i>RELATIVE</i> to yourself

I didn't read this whole thread but Einstein didn't say that. According to the equations in Einstein's paper on the Special Theory of Relativity, if an object is travelling faster than the speed of light, time dilation will be imaginary (square root of a negative number). Einstein took that to be a non-solution (sometimes happens when math and physics meet), not as travel into the past.

In essence, one can't accelerate through the speed of light so physically it is meaningless (at least in the framework of Relativity).

There is a proposed particle (tachyon) which would be able to travel faster than the speed of light but they can never travel slower than the speed of light. No one has found one.

According to Einstein's Special Relativity, you can't go through the speed of light barrier. That is the essence of the equations.

uh, no.
relative to time.

And 12 Clicks .. why are you fucking around like this? Good ice cream, huh?