Originally Posted by $5 submissions

Any seen 12clicks around? Haven't seen much of him here lately.

Originally Posted by 12clicks

I've always known Einstein was wrong about time travel but I never felt I had the time to properly debunk it.
So tonight, I'm eating Ben & Jerry's "coffee heathbar crunch" icecream and a simple answer to the problem presented itself

The theory is that if you could travel at faster than the speed of light, you could travel through time. Here is why its wrong:

Time has no relationship to people. Time passes regardless of what a person does.
if something happends in another galaxy and it takes a year to see it because the light is traveling from so far away, by the time we see it, its already a year old (standard stuff)
But if we travel at faster than the speed of light towards that galaxy, we will get closer to seeing the galaxy in realtime. we will NOT be turning back the clock.
The proof of this is our ability to travel faster than the speed of sound.
If a sound takes 10 seconds to reach our ear because the action creating it was so far away, we hear an action that happened 10 seconds ago. Not unlike seeing something from the other galaxy that happened already.
Now, if we travel at the speed of sound towards the action that made the sound, we DO hear the sound sooner but we do not travel back in time.
Swap speed of sound with speed of light and you see why Albert Einstein is wrong. :1orglaugh

Originally Posted by BOSS1

This might be the most idiotic reasoning I read in a while :helpme
I suggest taking some physics courses at uni....

Thanks for making me feel more educated!

Originally Posted by MrJackMeHoff

I didnt read shit here but, its already been proven to be true so forget it.

Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 9093874)

oh, how children love to chirp.
I'll bet you don't even like ice cream

Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 9093874)

oh, how children love to chirp.
I'll bet you don't even like ice cream

Originally Posted by BOSS1 (Post 12254705)

I am lactose intolertant :)

Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 1911574)

I've always known Einstein was wrong about time travel but I never felt I had the time to properly debunk it.
So tonight, I'm eating Ben & Jerry's "coffee heathbar crunch" icecream and a simple answer to the problem presented itself

The theory is that if you could travel at faster than the speed of light, you could travel through time. Here is why its wrong:

Time has no relationship to people. Time passes regardless of what a person does.
if something happends in another galaxy and it takes a year to see it because the light is traveling from so far away, by the time we see it, its already a year old (standard stuff)
But if we travel at faster than the speed of light towards that galaxy, we will get closer to seeing the galaxy in realtime. we will NOT be turning back the clock.
The proof of this is our ability to travel faster than the speed of sound.
If a sound takes 10 seconds to reach our ear because the action creating it was so far away, we hear an action that happened 10 seconds ago. Not unlike seeing something from the other galaxy that happened already.
Now, if we travel at the speed of sound towards the action that made the sound, we DO hear the sound sooner but we do not travel back in time.
Swap speed of sound with speed of light and you see why Albert Einstein is wrong. :1orglaugh

Originally Posted by Goodings Media (Post 12256460)

Im not gonna read all of this thread but this post made me laugh... lol

Now I hope none of it pollutes my brain, my Cosmology and Relativistic Space Science exam is 5th June (1st year finals)

Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 10229216)

check again, Einstein.:1orglaugh
http://www.physicsmyths.org.uk/timedilation.htm

Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 12255959)

and they say my people skills are lacking.

Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 12256573)

I suggest you stay away from the icecream until after the test.

and what do Cosmetics have to do with Relativistic Space Science?

Originally Posted by Lane (Post 1913909)

- nothing can travel at or faster than lightspeed.

Originally Posted by Ironhorse (Post 1911608)

Don't quit your dayjob.

Originally Posted by CDSmith (Post 12256643)

Light can.

So if light particles can do it (travel at the speed of light), why is it such a stretch to comprehend that other forms of matter might be able to do it as well?

i have the uncanny abilty to hear in the dark. Thus I am not so quick to toss around the word "impossible" :D

Originally Posted by CDSmith (Post 12256643)

Light can.

So if light particles can do it (travel at the speed of light), why is it such a stretch to comprehend that other forms of matter might be able to do it as well?

Originally Posted by Goodings Media (Post 12256653)

Whats the fact that sound travels through vibrations in a medium, got to do with anything other than electromagnetic radiation travelling at light speeds?

Originally Posted by Goodings Media (Post 12256653)

At speeds approaching c best to stop thinking of light as particles

Originally Posted by GigoloMason (Post 12256655)

Because of relativistic mass increase. :2 cents:

Originally Posted by Goodings Media (Post 12256653)

At speeds approaching c best to stop thinking of light as particles

Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 12256732)

why is that, because the theories don't hold up under such circumstances or because light particles stop existing at such speeds? :winkwink:

Originally Posted by Goodings Media (Post 12256782)

Because there isn;t a unified theory of light yet that holds true under all situations.

Originally Posted by MrChips (Post 12845965)

BTW - this means if you get on a rocket - and head back towards the point of origin of the big bang - your seconds will last a shorter period of time and you will age faster (as effectively you are moving slower than you were on the galaxy).

If you stop your rocket at the point of the origin of the big bang - then your seconds will elapse in an instant - you will no longer exist.

This I feel fits in with a unified theory of at the very least space, speed and time.

Originally Posted by GigoloMason (Post 12256597)

http://www.physicscentral.com/writers/2000/will.html

But at 38 microseconds per day, the relativistic offset in the rates of the satellite clocks is so large that, if left uncompensated, it would cause navigational errors that accumulate faster than 10 km per day! GPS accounts for relativity by electronically adjusting the rates of the satellite clocks, and by building mathematical corrections into the computer chips which solve for the user's location. Without the proper application of relativity, GPS would fail in its navigational functions within about 2 minutes.
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Originally Posted by CDSmith (Post 12256699)

Blabber jabber.

Once Dr. Daystrom invents the first warp drive you eggheads will eat your words.

Originally Posted by bdjuf (Post 1912181)

black holes are just too crazy.
some theories say that when you go in a blackhole, you get teleported to another blackhole in the universe (theory of star trek, wich I never watch btw)

Originally Posted by Squishy (Post 12846248)

Zefram Cochrane, not Daystrom...Daystrom was a computer guy.

Originally Posted by AbulletAway (Post 12846287)

Umm no. Not even close. Star Trek delt in the concept of warp speed. The idea of being able to actually warp space. For example, point A and B are 3 light years apart. You warp the space between them so it's say maybe a few thousand miles depending upon the amount of warp you are applying.

The closest thing to what you're talking about our worm holes. (That would be Stargate, I always watch that right after Star Trek by the way.)

Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 12846843)

all you did was disprove something einstein never implied

the limitation to traveling at the speed of light is mass

ie the closer you get to it the more your mass untill your mass becomes infinate at C

Originally Posted by MrChips (Post 12848465)

Black holes - when you approach a Black hole feet first

Originally Posted by MrChips (Post 12848465)

go near a black hole and you are fucked - BIG TIME.

Originally Posted by SykkBoy2 (Post 1911790)

Am I the only one who'd love to see 12clicks all coked up and off his tree?