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might be a sign of my intellectual laziness but the only thing that piqued my interest in 8 pages of blah blah blah was "Ben & Jerry's "coffee heathbar crunch" icecream"
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Einstein was an overhyped idiot. If light has no mass, and travels as a wave, it cannot have an upper limit when traveling through a vacuum.
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Congrats on showing how uber fucking stupid the rest of the forum is for incoherently trying to act like they know dick about relativity.
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Damn, you're way more dumb than I thought!!
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Einstein was a fraud
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Sound has no mass... it's just a vibration of the air. When you're talking about traveling faster than the speed of light, you're talking about a physical object moving through space... faster than light. All comparisons are off at that point. Let's keep in mind the recent discovery of something traveling faster than light was a neutrino... a sub atomic particle that can pass through walls regardless of size... |
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The speed of sound can change, while the speed of light can never change. If you're driving in a car and you yell at someone in front of you, the sound waves are traveling at the speed your car is + the speed of sound. So relative to someone standing on the road as you go by, that sound is travelling at faster than the speed of sound. The same doesn't apply to light, so when you're in a car and you turn on the lights, the light is still going the speed of light and not the speed of light + the speed of your car. If I'm traveling towards sound, that sound is going to reach me going faster than it normally would be at rest. But if I'm travelling towards light, the light is reaching me at the same speed as it would if I were at rest. So if I wanted to jump in a spaceship and travel towards a planet at faster than the speed of light, I'm going to arrive at the planet and see things that happened before I even left, since I'm travelling at faster than the speed of light. Time travel happens more going the other way, future travel, where the closer to the speed of light you go the more time changes and five minutes for you might be hundreds of years for someone at rest relative to you. |
how do i make myself look stupid, any suggestions???
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It will end like this,
yes we can travel past the speed of light. Time is a force of nature, and like other forces of nature it can be manipulated. It can be slowed down, distorted, maximized, manipulated for whatever purpose needed. We will be able to "pivot" between time, but it wont be time travel as described in the movies.. more like practical skewing. |
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time is the key factor in the explanation or lack there of. |
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But calling him an idiot is just foolish, if he is an idiot then we are fuckin' seaweed... |
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same reason they adjust the clocks on the gps satellites every day, because the clocks literally run at different speeds when closer to a strong gravity source or when travelling at near the speed of light. |
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If time travel had anything to do with the speed of light, the guys at CERN couldn't have tracked the particles that travelled faster than the speed of light because they would have arrived before anyone knew they were sent. :winkwink: |
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http://www7.economist.com/blogs/babb...1/09/neutrinos
"The odds, it must be admitted, are that a mistake has been made somewhere in the long chain of timing measurements required to compare the moment when neutrinos are created at CERN by smashing a beam of protons into a target, and their detection in Gran Sasso, though OPERA's researchers have done their best to account for all possible instrumental quirks. What makes the result slightly less than incredible is that an experiment in America, called MINOS, detected a similar anomaly in 2007. MINOS's researchers dismissed that result as a mismeasurement." |
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If the sun exploded then we on Earth wouldn't see it happen for 8 minutes or so after someone who is on the sun would see it happen. But for that 8 minutes we would keep circling the sun normally because even the force of gravity can only travel at the speed of light. So for all intents and purposes, the sun hasn't exploded for us until the light reaches us because only then do we get any affects of it. And finally if you go fast you will age at the same rate relative to yourself. But if you measure the rate that you age or that time passes compared to someone at rest relative to you, time for you will pass much slower than time for them. I don't know if you're just being 12clicks the troll here or if you're serious, seems to me you're trolling. Nobody can not know so much when they are sitting in front of a computer, right? |
Damn. I see the most ridiculous arguments and statements on time, light, speed and more flying around in one thread.
12clicks: even 1 of the basics of time you are getting wrong. Seriously wrong. |
its all relative, thats why its called relativity, what are you measuring the speed of light relative to? what time are you measuring your time against?
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"So if the neutrinos are pulling this fast one on Einstein, how can it happen?
Parke said there could be a cosmic shortcut through another dimension ? physics theory is full of unseen dimensions ? that allows the neutrinos to beat the speed of light." http://online.wsj.com/article/AP58b5...951b36b35.html From a post 8-21-2011 "This theory of photonic mass is incorrect. Theories of photons are 100 years old and mostly centered around shaky postulates such as relativity. An object cannot have no mass but have energy. A photon is a result particle with a form that exists outside the currently observable universe. That is also why the universe did not "appear" from nothing. There are other, currently unobserved frames with physical laws that may not correspond to the frame in which we live." Being a smart guy +10 Being unable to monetize -50 Score: -40 (Dumbass) |
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Or i must be seriously misreading some of your posts. No offense btw. You know me. |
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lol, why does every serious thread ends in a pissing contest. Must love GFY
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This has been proven. If you take two atomic clocks and put one at the base of the empire state building and one at the top then time passes more slowly for the clock at the top than the clock at the base. And that's accounting for time dilation due to mass as well as relative speed. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_dilation There have been many, many experiments done to prove time dilation and the effects of gravity and relative speed. |
.speed of light --->X
.faster of light ---->X at this point you are not in future, you are just faster than light, i really dont know why is so hard to understand it, its like you see airplane take off, then you go to other country with faster airplane and wait for it, and here it is, you was faster, lulz |
arguing science with 12clicks :1orglaugh :1orglaugh
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravita..._time_dilation
--- Gravitational time dilation is the effect of time passing at different rates in regions of different gravitational potential; the lower the gravitational potential, the more slowly time passes. Albert Einstein originally predicted this effect in his theory of relativity and it has since been confirmed by tests of general relativity. This has been demonstrated by noting that atomic clocks at differing altitudes (and thus different gravitational potential) will eventually show different times. The effects detected in such experiments are extremely small, with differences being measured in nanoseconds. --- So in theory if you could enter into a state of true zero gravity, time will stand still for you while Earth time continues forward. |
You can't travel back in time. It would be like setting your house on fire then putting it back together from ash. Time is simply how fast all objects move. Gravity is like universal friction slowing down all movement. When you travel fast your acceleration increases mass and thus gravity increasing the universal friction you would experience. Effectively time dilation. Travelling faster than the speed of light supposedly is impossible but just because you break the laws of physics doesn't mean you can now magically get to travel back in time. It's comic book logic.
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Can we just stick to peddling porn? Y'all are giving me a brain freeze, a "Ben & Jerry's "coffee heathbar crunch" brain freeze :)
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ice cream theory failed peer review :)
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The concept of time is man-made and as such it is flawed and can be interrupted many different ways - thus neither you, or Einstein, or any other GFYer here is right or wrong :2 cents:
Your example also isn't even an example of "popular" time travel. A more fun example would be arguing for or against a concept like, if you could "travel back in time", could you hang out with a long-dead historical figure? The key to unlocking everything = vibration. |
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Lets say these particles arent faster then light but travelled through another dimension, thus taking shortcuts. They would in fact be going back in time. Einsteins theory can still hold. But can be different if there are more dimensions. |
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That would be ridiculous :1orglaugh |
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I'd not like to read the whole thread, so I hope he's just trolling?
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