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Jakke PNG 06-20-2003 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pipecrew
I must say, something is obviously fucked up when you can offer 75 bucks for a signup.
I've seen bigger 1-day specials...

Pipecrew 06-20-2003 05:21 PM

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Originally posted by TeenGodFather

I've seen bigger 1-day specials...


http://www.pipecrew.com 150 per signup?

Jakke PNG 06-20-2003 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pipecrew



http://www.pipecrew.com 150 per signup?

I'm not elite enough for it. I wish I was.

Snake Doctor 06-20-2003 05:39 PM

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Originally posted by Pipecrew
I must say, something is obviously fucked up when you can offer 75 bucks for a signup. So far it seems only Fantasyman is the one to look at it without googly eyes, all kinds of webmasters are flocking to this because they think they will make a killing, sometimes its better to sit back and watch.. Should be interesting to see how this all plays out.
I don't want to get involved in the rest of what's going on in this thread, but quite a few programs have had $75 days.
Its only for one day, and obviously they're losing money on that particular day.

But its only for one day

howard 06-20-2003 05:49 PM

Subject: Lovercash conversions

Take it from a company that mails out to lovercash on a weekly basic.

Delivery to 5 million ( double opt) equals 100 sign ups

We-adultplex--have been sending them every week and they convert and pay like clockwork.

Anyone who doesn't take advantage of tomorrow $75 day is foolish.

It's worth it at there normal payouts of $20 to $30.

BTW--dating sites with adult tarffic convert better than adultsites
anymore. It's been moving this way at least the past year to 6 moths.

If people with traffic divided half there traffic to dating sites and half to adult they would make more money than sending it to all adult sites.

Traffic is all I do and people who take this advise will thank me if there not already doing so. It's just plain simple make proven to my company over the past year.

I just into the traffic end--but all I here and it totatly makes sense--members stay members longer to dating sites than adult sites. And its easier to convert. Yes--I am saying dating sites convert better than adult anymore. You can't do 1 or another. To maximize your profits you should be diding your traffic half and half.

And I speak from knoledge because traffic is my only job.

Just giving you all the facts.

But when your looking for adult we at adultplex offer the highest payments for free sign ups at $37.50.. Though I would throw that it.

Boss Hawg Rocks and your all fools not to try it if you haven't already.

howard

www.adultplex.com

howard 06-20-2003 06:09 PM

BTW---Boss doing $75 is nutz with how they convert
and I'm just being honest. Everone should try it. You got
3 hours to get them links up.

On the same token many other dating sites convert great too.

I don't want to leave out the others we promote. All have great
reputations and convert great. Honestly, I suggest all of them.


www.lovercash.com
www.pussycash.com
www.lovedollars.com
www.friendfinder.com
www.date.com
www.mr-cash.com (there dating site)

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Pointless 06-20-2003 06:30 PM

no wonder visa is cracking down

asuna 06-20-2003 07:02 PM

how long does it take to get approved?

JerseyPuma 06-20-2003 07:08 PM

I have only three words to say about all this talk:

Dinosaurs will die.

FM - nobody can take away from the fact that you are the original man in this industry. You brought the thunder back in the day, and youre still reaping the benefits (I saw your cars on Ebay, rest assured). But as many times as you bark about paying on upsells and dialer this and that, the simple truth is that your CEMags was/is nothing more than a FreeEzineBucks with some bells and whistles, and these new XXX All Access Passes are your answer to our Tickets. So you call your ezines "mags" and your tickets "passes"...in the end, a blatant ripoff is a blatant ripoff no matter what you call it by. And rest assured, myself and my associates here will be vigilantly watching the boards so we can lay waste to your threads as quickly as you tried to decimate this one.

That being said, only two hours left to get your LoverCash links up and make the easiest 75 bucks of your life for your free joins. Simple as that...you want money, we want to give it to you. And we wont even make you look at pictures of our cars on Ebay or listen to our pre-pubescent "fo shizzle my nizzle" rants like a star trek fan club member trying to sound cool at a high school party.

besterman 06-20-2003 07:10 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by howard
[B]Subject: Lovercash conversions

Take it from a company that mails out to lovercash on a weekly basic.

Delivery to 5 million ( double opt) equals 100 sign ups

]

1:50,000 conversion? Is it me or does that sound awfully poor?

xxweekxx 06-20-2003 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JerseyPuma
I have only three words to say about all this talk:

Dinosaurs will die.

FM - nobody can take away from the fact that you are the original man in this industry. You brought the thunder back in the day, and youre still reaping the benefits (I saw your cars on Ebay, rest assured). But as many times as you bark about paying on upsells and dialer this and that, the simple truth is that your CEMags was/is nothing more than a FreeEzineBucks with some bells and whistles, and these new XXX All Access Passes are your answer to our Tickets. So you call your ezines "mags" and your tickets "passes"...in the end, a blatant ripoff is a blatant ripoff no matter what you call it by. And rest assured, myself and my associates here will be vigilantly watching the boards so we can lay waste to your threads as quickly as you tried to decimate this one.

That being said, only two hours left to get your LoverCash links up and make the easiest 75 bucks of your life for your free joins. Simple as that...you want money, we want to give it to you. And we wont even make you look at pictures of our cars on Ebay or listen to our pre-pubescent "fo shizzle my nizzle" rants like a star trek fan club member trying to sound cool at a high school party.


haha 0wned

xxweekxx 06-20-2003 07:13 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by scorpion3600
[B]
Quote:

Originally posted by howard
Subject: Lovercash conversions

Take it from a company that mails out to lovercash on a weekly basic.

Delivery to 5 million ( double opt) equals 100 sign ups

]

1:50,000 conversion? Is it me or does that sound awfully poor?

Email delivered to 5mil people. not 5mil clicks. from 5mil emails expect maybe 25,000 clicks if you are lucky.

So thats 1:200 ratio. but im thinking less than 25,000 clicks, since 0.5% clickthru from spam is high

JerseyPuma 06-20-2003 07:14 PM

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Originally posted by asuna
how long does it take to get approved?
whats your email address, ill approve you right now.

SexySarah 06-20-2003 07:23 PM

All the FM hating makes me laugh.

So much jealousy on this board.

People hate what they will never be.

Butrflied 06-20-2003 07:25 PM

Hey guys .. I'm turning 25 at midnight .. guess the guys picked $75 dollar day for tomorrow 'cause its my birthday!! not really .. anyways i'll be here for a while .. so if you want your application approved hit me up on ICQ .. 2912929 ..

oh yeah .. HIYA p00p!!!


SexySarah 06-20-2003 07:26 PM

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Originally posted by xxweekxx


Email delivered to 5mil people. not 5mil clicks. from 5mil emails expect maybe 25,000 clicks if you are lucky.

So thats 1:200 ratio. but im thinking less than 25,000 clicks, since 0.5% clickthru from spam is high

It's not spam.

It's double opt-in.

Get your euphemisms correct.

xxweekxx 06-20-2003 07:27 PM

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Originally posted by SexySarah


It's not spam.

It's double opt-in.

Get your euphemisms correct.

5mil double opt-in..

:1orglaugh

Yeah i do triple opt-in campaings too.

I even call them to confirm!

The Truth Hurts 06-20-2003 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JerseyPuma

CEMags was/is nothing more than a FreeEzineBucks with some bells and whistles, and these new XXX All Access Passes are your answer to our Tickets. So you call your ezines "mags" and your tickets "passes"...in the end, a blatant ripoff is a blatant ripoff no matter what you call it by.

Get a fucking grip..
Unless you're claiming FEB or FTC were original ideas..
in which case, get a history lesson..

p00p 06-20-2003 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Butrflied
Hey guys .. I'm turning 25 at midnight .. guess the guys picked $75 dollar day for tomorrow 'cause its my birthday!! not really .. anyways i'll be here for a while .. so if you want your application approved hit me up on ICQ .. 2912929 ..

oh yeah .. HIYA p00p!!!


Happy Birthday, gorgeous!
http://www.expressionsflorist.co.nz/P6202258.jpg

Butrflied 06-20-2003 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by p00p

Happy Birthday, gorgeous!
http://www.expressionsflorist.co.nz/P6202258.jpg

awww .. there you are!! Thank you !!! :winkwink:

Probono 06-20-2003 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by howard
Subject: Lovercash conversions

Take it from a company that mails out to lovercash on a weekly basic.

Delivery to 5 million ( double opt) equals 100 sign ups

We-adultplex--have been sending them every week and they convert and pay like clockwork.

Anyone who doesn't take advantage of tomorrow $75 day is foolish.

It's worth it at there normal payouts of $20 to $30.

BTW--dating sites with adult tarffic convert better than adultsites
anymore. It's been moving this way at least the past year to 6 moths.

If people with traffic divided half there traffic to dating sites and half to adult they would make more money than sending it to all adult sites.

Traffic is all I do and people who take this advise will thank me if there not already doing so. It's just plain simple make proven to my company over the past year.

I just into the traffic end--but all I here and it totatly makes sense--members stay members longer to dating sites than adult sites. And its easier to convert. Yes--I am saying dating sites convert better than adult anymore. You can't do 1 or another. To maximize your profits you should be diding your traffic half and half.

And I speak from knoledge because traffic is my only job.

Just giving you all the facts.

But when your looking for adult we at adultplex offer the highest payments for free sign ups at $37.50.. Though I would throw that it.

Boss Hawg Rocks and your all fools not to try it if you haven't already.

howard

www.adultplex.com

You are the same form of sleeze the the Hawg is. You are the type of scum that is causing all the honest people in this business pain.

This is from your 30 minute free trial. You need to cancel 3 days in advance to keep from being billed on a 30 minute free trial. FRAUD!

BY CLICKING ABOVE YOU AGREE THAT YOU UNDERSTAND THAT FOR YOUR CONVENIENCE MEMBERSHIPS AUTOMATICALLY RENEW AT THE THEN CURRENT MONTHLY RATE UNLESS YOUR SUBSCRIPTION IS CANCELLED AT LEAST 3 DAYS PRIOR TO THE END OF THE CURRENT TERM AND THAT YOU AGREE TO THE TERMS & CONDITIONS OF MEMBERSHIP. FOR MORE INFORMATION ON AUTOMATIC RENEWALS AND CANCELLING PLEASE READ THE TERMS & CONDITIONS AND CONTACT CUSTOMER SERVICE.

angeleyes 06-20-2003 08:44 PM

Hawg is NOT sleeze. Why does everyone feel the need to be so nasty on a simple annoucement thread? If you don't want to participate, don't....... it's quite simple. Have you ever met him? The brothers are the kind of people you wish there were more of. I've met most of their family and they are just KIND people, period, end of subject. If you don't like the programs don't use them, don't bash. I have never bashed in another sponsors thread. I don't bash at all. (Other than the person that compared pets to Cockroaches) but that was well deserved.

Probono 06-20-2003 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by angeleyes
Hawg is NOT sleeze. Why does everyone feel the need to be so nasty on a simple annoucement thread? If you don't want to participate, don't....... it's quite simple. Have you ever met him? The brothers are the kind of people you wish there were more of. I've met most of their family and they are just KIND people, period, end of subject. If you don't like the programs don't use them, don't bash. I have never bashed in another sponsors thread. I don't bash at all. (Other than the person that compared pets to Cockroaches) but that was well deserved.
YOU WOULD BE 100% CORRECT IS WE WERE NOT ALL FORCED TO PAY THE PRICE WITH VISA AND MASTERCARD FORM FUCKING SCAMMERS LIKE THIS.

p00p 06-20-2003 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by angeleyes
Hawg is NOT sleeze. Why does everyone feel the need to be so nasty on a simple annoucement thread? If you don't want to participate, don't....... it's quite simple. Have you ever met him? The brothers are the kind of people you wish there were more of. I've met most of their family and they are just KIND people, period, end of subject. If you don't like the programs don't use them, don't bash. I have never bashed in another sponsors thread. I don't bash at all. (Other than the person that compared pets to Cockroaches) but that was well deserved.
Don't sweat it girl. :)
Either people are going to sign up for your program, or they aren't. Done deal.
There are plenty of webmasters to go around. :2 cents:

Mike AI 06-20-2003 09:52 PM

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Webmasters should pay attention to how much consumers are charged when they send traffic to a site, especially when there is a lofty payout. Each time a consumer gets billed 4 times when they think they will be charged once, that consumer will never enter their credit card on the internet again. These type of programs will create the downfall of our industry.
Wow!! Never thought I would see Ron post these words.... Thas past 5 years it was me saying this to him!!!

Welcome aboard the train Ron, plenty of room for you!



:winkwink:

fantasyman 06-20-2003 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JerseyPuma
But as many times as you bark about paying on upsells and dialer this and that, the simple truth is that your CEMags was/is nothing more than a FreeEzineBucks with some bells and whistles, and these new XXX All Access Passes are your answer to our Tickets. So you call your ezines "mags" and your tickets "passes"...in the end, a blatant ripoff is a blatant ripoff no matter what you call it by. And rest assured, myself and my associates here will be vigilantly watching the boards so we can lay waste to your threads as quickly as you tried to decimate this one.


FreeEzineBucks and Tickets are knockoffs of RiskyMail and Teen-Mail which were around before you were born, Get a grip!! For that matter all affiliate programs knocked of CE's original FastCash - you should really check the history before you accuse someone of knocking off aprogram!!

And if you think it's ok to bill a consumer 4 times in one sign up process for $160 - you should at least payout $140 a sign up all the time!!

BossHawg 06-20-2003 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mike AI


Wow!! Never thought I would see Ron post these words.... Thas past 5 years it was me saying this to him!!!

Welcome aboard the train Ron, plenty of room for you!



:winkwink:


I just got home, but about off to sleep...

MikeAI..I respect you and like MOST of your posts...BUT go peep FM's join page. Disclosure is MUCH Less than any of my paysites or any other paysite regardless if he believes that is what the FTC wants in his opinion...

Probono...what happens when the user joins our site and doesnt take any upsells. We pay UP TO $45 per FREE TRIAL ($20-45) and get $0 in return. You know how many take those upsells. WAY less than you would think..especially with dating sites..Dont less FM brainwash you into thinking the surfer is getting charged $140...He forgets to mention he has NO mention of his upsell on his join page or any of the billing terms except in a small popup box that nobody reads..real ethical there...

I am done pissing..it is past 12:00 so if you are not sending to us you are losing money :) GET SOME!!

neuromancer 06-20-2003 11:16 PM

Mmm, old school board entertainment.

Hooper 06-20-2003 11:24 PM

Interesting thread for so many reasons.

xxweekxx 06-20-2003 11:28 PM

Hawg's are good people.

I personally want Boss to have 2 of my kids:)

DX 06-20-2003 11:41 PM

150

p00p 06-20-2003 11:46 PM

Wow. Good publicity or not, Boss Hawg hit this one right. Exposure is priceless..... :2 cents:

fantasyman 06-21-2003 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BossHawg



I just got home, but about off to sleep...

MikeAI..I respect you and like MOST of your posts...BUT go peep FM's join page. Disclosure is MUCH Less than any of my paysites or any other paysite regardless if he believes that is what the FTC wants in his opinion...

Probono...what happens when the user joins our site and doesnt take any upsells. We pay UP TO $45 per FREE TRIAL ($20-45) and get $0 in return. You know how many take those upsells. WAY less than you would think..especially with dating sites..Dont less FM brainwash you into thinking the surfer is getting charged $140...He forgets to mention he has NO mention of his upsell on his join page or any of the billing terms except in a small popup box that nobody reads..real ethical there...

I am done pissing..it is past 12:00 so if you are not sending to us you are losing money :) GET SOME!!

BossHawg CECash offers one cross sell with a pop up java box with full disclosure.

Your program has a sign up and then 3 other cross sells - the last with no price, let alone no disclosure, end of story!!

..and to top that all off, after today you only pay $20 to $45 to Webmasters who get their surfers abused!!

localG 06-21-2003 01:04 AM

Wow very interesting read. Well all i can say during all this pissing is i tried hawgs shit and it does very well for me. Boss and every person on his staff have been nothin but kind and very helpfull in this buisness..

I will say i checkED out both sites and im not a fan of cross sales cuase i believe they are just tring to get as much cash outta the surfer who probably wont ever realize or use all the freaking sites they join.. but i am some what smart and when i read fms i was not thinking i had to uncheck the box becuase i wanted full access to the site.. and it actually took me a minute to realize i was being pushed to another site that sorta sounded the same..

hawgs for findanewlover

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this seems to say what it is and is pretty clear


fms for Cybererotica.com
Promo: Give Me Complete Accesss.
Include access to CyberSexotica.com FREE!
Terms and Conditions of Cybererotica Membership.

ok im thinking this is just what i want full access ,, but then i look again and realize its not cybererotica its cybersexotica .. fucked me up for a minute .. lol

ok and then a java box pops witch with my dick in my hand i doubt i would read this whole long thing along with many.. so in my opinion cross sales in general seem to be alittle off the wall and confusing .

i understood hawgs ,, i really did not understand fms sorta thought i was just agreeing to get full access..

so you all can piss and piss .. but be realistic cross sales on both ends are just away to confuse surfers to make some extra money....


AND IF IT WAS NOT JUST A PLOY TO MAKE EXTRA MONEY BY CONFUSING THE SURFER UNCHECK THE FUCKING BOX AND LET THE SURFER MAKE UP THERE FUCKING MIND.. BUT YOU WONT BECUASE YOU ALL KNOW DAMN WELL IF YOU DONT CONFUSE THE FUCKING SURFER THEY WILL NOT CHECK THE BOX NEARLY AS MUCH AND YOU WILL MAKE LESS MONEY..... THAT THE BOTTOM LINE ...


well this was fun and pretty neat to read this thread , i wish you all well and you have a wonderfull weekend .

S.A.K. 06-21-2003 01:04 AM

First offf let me thank you Fantasy Man for keeping our thread alive, while your announcement is buried in the archives. You and your people are the best!! Second off your signup process is bad but hey we can compare alll day but we will still be here in the end as I am sure you will. Let the affiliates decide who they want to promote and let them make the most money or do you feel threatened by us and our payouts? Just let our threads be and we will let your pathetic threads be and we will be both be happy unless you want me to jump in everyone of your threads like you feel the need to get in everyone of Bosshawg's threads. Get off our nuts and go lead your pathetic middle age crisis life. I went out and got some tonight while apparently you sat home and read GFY. :321GFY


Just look at all the people already making serious cash! $75 signups in case you didn't know! :thumbsup

fantasyman 06-21-2003 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by S.A.K.
Get off our nuts and go lead your pathetic middle age crisis life. I went out and got some tonight while apparently you sat home and read GFY. :321GFY



No, I didn't stay home, see you're wrong afain. Actually I took my son to see the Hulk - very entertaining, great CGI's.

I'm not comparing our cross sell to yours. We do 1 cross sale, you do 3, and the last being with no disclosure, big difference!!

I have found when someone doesn't want to deal with the real issues, they attack you personally. In all of my posts I have keep it business, no personal attacks.

Your company's posts have included personal attacks. In case you didn't notice, it doesn't effect me one bit, I'm used to it. That's what the old pissing wars were all about.

So instead of trying to figure out my life crisis' - why don't you try to get a life. And since you attacked me, I think you're pretty pathetic yourself, having to brag that you went out and got laid, congrats, btw, how much did it cost you :)

MicDoohan 06-21-2003 01:35 AM

Fantasyman - why o why - we are all big boys and girls - if we didnt like how bosshawg and his crew were promoting their sites well we wouldnt fucking promote them would we.

Very uncool to attack another brothers program like that - probably got him alot more joins tho.

Oh and about your signature - its obnoxious to say the least.
What would message boards look like if we all had 4 links and a banner as our sigs

AngelEyes - sorry to hear about your loss


lill2rich4u2 - great NOT to see your name in this thread

S.A.K. 06-21-2003 01:49 AM

Fantasy Man tell me the first time I was wrong, to tell me I was wrong again. Second off I wouldnt call questioning whether you're having a mid life crisis as an attack, most older men go through it I am just wondering if now is your time. If you feel attacked than that is your insecurity not mine. Most of this biz is about getting the most out of the surfer (it is a business right and at least we let them know what they are paying) we dont care how you do it as your process is bad, just like you shouldnt care how we do it eventhough it is better than yours. If you think we are going to be gone let us lay our own trap and dont worry about us although it seems like you are greatly worried since you seem to get in most every thread that we start. Our business is fine and if your business is fine let it be. Its that simple. Once again ike I said let the affiliate make the most for themsleves as that is their goal and let us worry about our business. Thank you and if you want we can continue this discussion and just keep pushing more webmasters my way. Hell we can push it to 200 tonight if you want. And by the way I dont need to pay to get laid. Never have never will!

Playboy 06-21-2003 02:27 AM

yall are all wrong the best sponsor to support especially right now is playboy cuz they convert at better than 50:1 around july 4th


AND MOST IMPORTANTLY AND VERY ON TOPIC

THEY DONT SELL ANY UPSELLS OFF YOU WHATSOEVER

You Get The Site You Paid For , And Nothing Else

And No POPUP Hell when u dont join


They have 4 great sites to promote as well as Playboy+

webs Wildest women
Iboobs
petiteplace
and mature sophistication.

Im telling you go look at the banners and promo material you wont be disappointed

slackologist 06-21-2003 03:04 AM

FM made a simple, factual and valid point, i agree totally with what he said.

Being a professional enterprise, i don't see why all of you at the Hawgs can't just accept the critisism and get on with your business.


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