Brad I gave up half my assets and still have a lot more than you. I was with her for 16 years, that's a lot longer than any woman will ever stay with your sorry ass. I'm happy now with my new lady, she's got brains and great business sense so we get along fine.

You mean you found the right lady for right now, what will you do when you tire of her like you have all the ones in the past? How long does it usually take, about a year and you fall for a new one? ShawCutie will find out the hard way. And when it ends, she'll find out what a true piece of shit you really are!!

That $120k was huge for you at the time, how quickly we forget. I remember when your only claim to fame was having Yahoo's search engine wired and us sending you big checks. Oh yes, they forget quickly.

Brad you keep saying how I'm washed up. I guess you wish that was the truth. When you see my new business model you're gonna flip out!!

I didn't storm out of anywhere, I wasn't even at that awards show and the year before we won it hands down. Then Fay Sharp put the fix in and I declined to attend. If it wasn't a fix, why would Fay feel she had to tell me the winner the morning of the awards show? And why would she create a 'bells and whistles' category for FF5? And how would MikeAI's paysite get to share that bells and whistles category when he had no bells and whistles? I do not lie, this is the truth. I'm sure if Fay had that to do over again, she wouldn't do what she did. Her show has been a big flop ever since!!

In my book it's more important to be first, which we were.

So go crawl back into your hole and good luck to ShawCutie as she will need it with the likes of you. You're that bitter little boy, not me :)

to each, their own :)

Yeah baby!! I'll turn it on!!! :)

FM,

Props where its due :) That was Brad in a nutshell. :)

I know we don't agree on hardly anything...but...you did give me a lot of coaching several yrs ago.

I wouldn't be going for a swim in my pool with my wife and kids later today if not for it...nor would I be wondering whether to drive my Porsche or Benz tonight :)

You took out an "insurance policy".Wise move.The end.

Everything else is bullshit,personal animosity etc.

Gentlemen, all this big-dirt flying around is very interesting.



Okay, actually it's extremely interesting.



But let's not forget the previous question asked by a few of us here, that being...... will there be an official Paypal account set up so we can contribute to the fight against ACACIA?



Remember Acacia?

Nick I feel the same way about you, we don't have much in common but I respect your business acumen. I also appreciate your recognition about my coaching, you're a stand up guy.

It's nice to have nice cars, homes, swimming pools, etc. and I'm glad you do, you've worked hard for it.

That MikeAI and Brad want to chastize me and spin my decision into something sick just once again shows their envy and jealousy, no biggy, I can handle it, I'm used to it :)

And yes, we have our 'insurance policy' and they don't. In fact they haven't put up one dime for the Acacia matter. They are playing Ostrich, it could end up being a very expensive game for them. If Acacia prevails, they will see how stupid I am and how smart they are :)

Thanx again for the kind words :thumbsup

That did it!!!!!!!!

Impuning my reputation!!!!!!! I'm gonna sue.

;)

Good luck with your new project FM.Though you won't need it.

The better you are, the luckier you get. :)

What a thread!

FM, you are the man! Those at the top will always have rocks thrown at them by the ungrateful masses below.

You did business with the wrong babenet. You should have selected my babe.net. In fact, I think I will put one of your affiliates on my site.

One thing I will have to say for FM. He answers the questions directly, and he has made some damn good business decisions over the years.

MikeAI, is it true you flunked the bar exam? So sad......:Graucho

:BangBang: :ak47:

When you see my new business model you're gonna flip out!!



Cool need someone to take under your wing? :)

Never did any business with Babenet, actually MikeAI was mailing their program and then he accuses me, he's a real class act!!

Thanx for your kind words, all I have ever done is business and that's all my fault :)

Let's sue each other :) LOL

I've been accused of being lucky my whole life, but I've learned that I'd rather be lucky than good :thumbsup

Thanx for the well wishing :)

You never know - email me at fm at cecash dot com and tell me about yourself!!

damn long thread. I will have to admit ce's email programs are great. His pay per signup programs kind of suck

guess you haven't tried Pay It Forward - $20 for every free sign up no deductions - 40% dialer revenue and $5 for each recurring member - our free sign ups convert 3 to 1 over paid trials - give it a shot!!

http://cecash.com/pif.html

And yes, our Email programs are the highest paying email programs around - thanx :)

This is better than a soap opera. :glugglug

we're just getting warmed up :)

I'm so tired of these haters that I'll piss with them awhile. When I'm done with them they won't know what their name is. It's funny how MikeAI posts so tough, then he walks up to me at a show, wants pictures taken with me, and laughs and acts like my buddy, saying it's all about advertising when he slams me on the boards, all in good fun. That's what he did two years ago, its pathetic :disgust

........stay tuned

Holy fuck. FM came, saw and kicked ass up in here.

Look at all the bodies laying around.

:winkwink:

Popcorn!!!

Hotdogs!!!

R-n, unlike you - I have never held myself out as an industry leader. I do not go around like a old peacock strutting around trying to raise my worn out and old feathers.

I am just a guy who stumbled into the biz in 1996, and have worked hard to try a make a living. Nothing more, nothing less.... I do not need to list my contributions, those who have been around long enough, know the score.

Those who can get past your propaganda, and see you for what you are... an egotistical,lying old man - who would sell his own mother down the river for a buck.

At one time you were something, but now you are hardly a shadow of yourself.... you still sprinkle out a few bread crumbs to get the hungry dumb ducks to follow, but your days are behind.

Must hurt? Kind of like an old boxer, who once was a heavy weight champ, but now is 10 years past his prime. Who steps into the ring and gets his face bashed in. Take a hint, RETIRE now.

As far as City Soap, I pulled the plug because it was going no where.... the main reason was our partners in NY.... but we were months behind schedule because of your operation. Everyone who works for you is terified to do anything without your approval. You really need to learn not to micro-manage... ( You have great guys working for you, let them do work, and not cower in the corner waiting for you to bark out orders)

As far as all of your other accusations, all lies and fabrications... Bar Results are public record in the State of Louisiana.... I will give you bet you $1,000,000 cash if you can document and evidence I failed the bar. I know you won't take the bet, because you know the truth... you are just trying to throw as much bullshit at the wall and see if any sticks...

You used to have a skill at pissing.... but now you are an old man, with bladder problems... You really should get that prostate checked more often!

Mike AI you come across as being a complete wanker....

if FM is soooo bad then put some proof out here?

Also its interesting how u only deny or quote select parts of what FM says... got something to hide?


IF as it is as reported, that you have pissing matches like this to advertise then Im afraid all ur getitng is negative advertising....


Also u tell FM to retire because he is "crap at pissing matches" and as "lost is touch"... and i thought the biz was about making money?

Nothing better to do on such a nice Sunday afternoon.... just got back from a nice picnic with my family. R-n take some time to enjoy the small things in life.

The whole take off on player hater is pretty funny. R-n defines himself based on money, and what money can buy.

How old are you R-n? What do you have to show for yor life? An ex-wife who hates your guts? Lots of ex-partners who feel the exact same way? Does it make you feel better about yourself when you cruise in your sl55?

I pitty you R-n, you are a lost soul, the Scrooge McDuck of the Internet.... nothing more, nothing less.

R-n you are not a player.... you are a loney, bitter, old man, who has a few bucks. Guess what?? You're not the only one who has money... and the funny thing is, you are old enough to be my dad!!

Your time has come, you're on the decline... and from what I see its a pretty steap slope. Hold on old timer, the ride is going to get rough!

MikeAi is purecash going to be a pay per trial signup program?

Darren, I could respond to each and every part - which question interests you the most?

I just got back in from a nice afternoon with my family....

As far as putting out proof, I have been documenting R-n's shady business practices for years.... It is common knowledge.

I have a feeling you must be one of R-n's $friends$

I will be around for a 15 minutes or so, so ask your question, raise your issues, I will answer all. If not, then I suggest you GFY....

:321GFY

Shawcutie does!!!!!

ahahahahahahahaha

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

You heard that too ?

BigDog, PureCash will have PPS, and Revshare.

Our reality sites, movie sites, and normaly generic porn sites ( big cock, teen, etc..) will have trials. The PPS will be an invite only program. To help combat fraud, I want to know each webmaster who sends me PPS traffic.

I will also have single girl amateur sites ( kind of my niche, and contribution to the industry) that will be PPS, but will NOT offer trials. Trials do not work for these type of sites. ( though I will offer trials for revshare as a experiment)

We started beta testing last Friday with our own traffic, so far things are going along very well.

quality thread.

:glugglug

What's the patent #? I want to look it up and post it here...

Darren??? Where are you?

Have any questions for me? If you were this interested surely you would have hung around.

Feel free to ICQ me about any concerns you have.

11025855

cool sounds good. What kind of payouts on pay per signup?

We are still playing numbers, one reason we are beta testing. If you dop me an e-mail, I can give you some more info and possibly include you in on the beta testing.

We are going to get 10-15 webmasters to help us test things out.

I have a question for you, Mike. If you had passed the bar exam, would you be representing Acacia or CECash?

I would have had to take the exam in order to pass it.

By my first year in law school I realized I hated it, not the law per se, but rather how attorneys abuse the legal system to shake down businesses.

I had significant student loans, which I would have to repay, and since I am not the type of person to quit, I stayed in law school and graduated. My second year I started a multiemedia corporation, that eventually became my adult company.

As far as which side I think should win, that is simple. CECash. Acacia entire business plans relies on enforcing broad patents. The patent they are seeking to enforce is like patenting breathing. I do not think it will be upheld, it definately should NOT be upheld by any court.

They are simply exorting people. It is blackmail, pure and simple. They are abusing the legal system, in my opinion and represent everything that is wrong with the US legal system, and trial attorneys.

I think this is something that even R-n would agree with.

MicroChick any relations to http://microbabe.com/ ? :)

Or are you Confucy?

That was a nice cartoon about FM...But it makes it look like he just picked up random muthafuckas off of the street, taught them everything they knew, and made them rich....It couldn't have been that simple....

I've been grinding since 2001.....I sure with someone would put ME on and make ME rich...I'd definitely appreciate it...

Mike,

to continue the hypothetical.......

If you were the attorney for cecash and received an offer from Acacia offering cecash no cost liscensing ,what would your advice be?

I definitely recommend scrapbooking & gardening!! Two of my favorite hobbies!

:thumbsup :thumbsup

Come on BVF, don't be a playa hata!!! R-n made me every dime I have, without him I would be tapdancing on Bourbon St. to make a living!!

R-n created the industry, and everyone who has made any money in it owes it all to R-n!!

I suggest you change your attitude, start kissing some R-n ass, and MAYBE, just maybe R-n will make you wealthy beyond your wildest dreams!!! ( that or send the FTC to your house! )

:winkwink: :Graucho

I swear it wasn't me! ;)

I can't be too rough on you, Mike, because I like Katie. If you had enough taste to select her, you can't be all bad.:thumbsup

How about some more travel pictures. You would surely get some points for sharing your *other* life with us. Confucy here.

BVF,

That was pretty much it,in my case

Back in the day...

All I did was post on YNOT that I was offered an exclusive traffic contract from Xpics.

I then received coaching from FM (many phonecalls) and The General on numerous subjects concerning this biz.

They made me rich.

Of course I then took the VERY expensive and extensive post graduate course offered by Scottpb and Serge.

;-)

#5,253,275
#5,550,863
#6,002,720

The above are "open continuations" of patent #5,132,992, an "Audio and Video Receiving and Transmission System," which was issued in July 1992.

The fifth patent, #6,144, 702, is described as a "division" of the 1992 patent and was approved in November of 2000.


(From Silicon Investor)

Nick, I know you know how to read! :winkwink:

As I have said till I am blue in the face:

I have no doubt R-n made a prudent business decision. Hell, knowing R-n, he probably walked with some stiock.

My issue is the hypocracy of R-n who has always held himself out to be the creater, the Grand PoohBah of the industry, the Playa of all Playas, is NONE of the above.

He is just a normal guy who does what is in HIS best interest, even if that means sacrificing everyone else.

I would have done the same thing. Nick, we KNOW you would have done the same thing. Difference is, neither one of us hold ourselves out as the Godfather of the Industry like R-n does.

That is all.... nothing more, nothing less.

I definately lucked out. Katie is awesome... I wish everyone could be as happy as we are!

We still take tons of photos, I will get some online soon. We are heading back to New Orleans tommorow, then next week will be out in Santa Monica for 2 weeks.

Mike, don't expect too much sunshine at the beach in Santa Monica. We are having cool overcast muggy days. Right now there is a breeze blowing, and a hazy sky. Los Angeles is dry and fires are popping up in the outer areas. I'll see if I can put together some sunshine for you so you can get some good beach shots.

You might want to stay and take the Calif Bar Exam. I'm sure FM can always use a good attorney!:)

Confucy, I am heading out there for work.

We have been shooting a few new series for PureCash.. We have a very ambitious shooting schedule for those 2 weeks.

We may take a quick trip up to SacTo for the weekend to visit the in-laws, maybe hit Tahoe.

Mike I keep seeing you post this garb about industry leader, I have never uttered those words, so they're either your words or someone elses, get off this rhetoric already.

Yes and when you started in 1996 you either had a Fast Cash account or a Clickcash account. That's how you funded yourself into this, on our money, that's just a simple fact.

Why should I retire, I still make more money than you in a given month even though I'm only a just an old boxer :)

City Soap had nothing to do with us not delivering, we had the site up and running with an affiliate program and the apartment wired and hot. Admit it, you didn't care about the $100k of equipment I put in, or my programmers time, you just pulled the plug. I'm glad you did, I wouldn't wantto be your partner.

Talk to my employees, shows how much you know about the way our business runs, I hardly talk to my techs and programmers, they're all self motivated. Just more of your lies. Talk about having no skill at pissing, in case you haven't noticed, you're not doing too well here :) roflmao

You keep personally attacking me for my age and my health, what's wrong with you?

:thumbsup

Mike,

The best thing I ever did was become evil :)
No one has any expectations :) :thumbsup

It is so freeing being the bad guy :)

Oh and Mike.....

SAying FM is an aging boxer is a poor analagy....

The last thing a boxer loses is............... his punch!!!!!

;)

If I was you ,Mike,I'd remeber to bob and weave ;)

Mike, for the 4th of July I had 350+ people at my house for my annual party. We had rock climbing walls, obstical course, DJ, Hawaiian Dancers, photographers, videographers and the house rocked.

I have guests in from out of town for the party and yesterday we recovered from the party and then spent the night in Hollywood.

Today we've been chillin in the pool, playing volleyball, looking at footage from the party. I've been posting in between all this. Tonite we're going to Universal City Walk for dinner and another good time. So don't worry about me, I have a real life away from the Internet and enjoy my life every day to the fullest. Anyone who knows me, knows I always give them the advice to do the same, live each day like it's your last, as I do, everyday!!

Let's get it right about the ex-wife, I hate her, she wants to be friends, that will never happen. I believe in the saying 'first time, shame on them second time, shame on you. Keep spinning your lies about sh-t you know nothing about. Sounds like you've made a study of my life thru you're sick eyes.

Mike, you seem to have even copid my lifestyle down to cars, you have an SL55 also along with a collection of other cars, like me, but I did that first too :) LOL

You're obviously the bitter person you try to make out of me, it's so clear, everybody reading this can see it. That's how unintelligent you are, you don't even know when you're exposing yourself.

You keep beating me up about my age and how I'm a has been, why are you following all things that I've done and try to do them yourself? Yes, I might be as old as your Dad, but you're still a major loser and that will never change.