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fantasyman 07-06-2003 12:05 PM

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Originally posted by BradShaw
Ron, who are you to give me advise on women? Speaking of track records.... Are you still dating your accountant? Still bitter about you wife leaving you, and taking half of your assets? Too bad you did not have a prenup, eh?

Life is good, sorry you can not piss on my parade. Finally found the right lady, took 28 years, but well worth the wait. I could not be happier.

I have no reason to be grateful to you. Sure you bought Teen Mail from me ($120k), big deal. I have made 7+ figures from other companies like Max Cash and Xpics back in the day, we never even approached that number. You are washed up, there are 19 year old kids doing more on the net than you these days.

My favorite memory of FM is when cybererotica lost out to karasxxx in Montreal as "website of the year" and Ron stormed off and pouted like a little whiny bitch. Reminded me of a little kid who had his bottle taken away/

Brad I gave up half my assets and still have a lot more than you. I was with her for 16 years, that's a lot longer than any woman will ever stay with your sorry ass. I'm happy now with my new lady, she's got brains and great business sense so we get along fine.

You mean you found the right lady for right now, what will you do when you tire of her like you have all the ones in the past? How long does it usually take, about a year and you fall for a new one? ShawCutie will find out the hard way. And when it ends, she'll find out what a true piece of shit you really are!!

That $120k was huge for you at the time, how quickly we forget. I remember when your only claim to fame was having Yahoo's search engine wired and us sending you big checks. Oh yes, they forget quickly.

Brad you keep saying how I'm washed up. I guess you wish that was the truth. When you see my new business model you're gonna flip out!!

I didn't storm out of anywhere, I wasn't even at that awards show and the year before we won it hands down. Then Fay Sharp put the fix in and I declined to attend. If it wasn't a fix, why would Fay feel she had to tell me the winner the morning of the awards show? And why would she create a 'bells and whistles' category for FF5? And how would MikeAI's paysite get to share that bells and whistles category when he had no bells and whistles? I do not lie, this is the truth. I'm sure if Fay had that to do over again, she wouldn't do what she did. Her show has been a big flop ever since!!

In my book it's more important to be first, which we were.

So go crawl back into your hole and good luck to ShawCutie as she will need it with the likes of you. You're that bitter little boy, not me :)

fantasyman 07-06-2003 12:06 PM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream


i hate to tell you this but i did enjoy the haters ball a lot more than the players ball last internext...............

but I'm into smaller events and I don't care for rap much.........

plus I'm just a hater by nature...........

to each, their own :)

Nickatilynx 07-06-2003 12:07 PM

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hey punk, turn on your icq, we have things to talk about
Yeah baby!! I'll turn it on!!! :)

FM,

Props where its due :) That was Brad in a nutshell. :)

I know we don't agree on hardly anything...but...you did give me a lot of coaching several yrs ago.

I wouldn't be going for a swim in my pool with my wife and kids later today if not for it...nor would I be wondering whether to drive my Porsche or Benz tonight :)

You took out an "insurance policy".Wise move.The end.

Everything else is bullshit,personal animosity etc.

CDSmith 07-06-2003 12:17 PM

Gentlemen, all this big-dirt flying around is very interesting.



Okay, actually it's extremely interesting.



But let's not forget the previous question asked by a few of us here, that being...... will there be an official Paypal account set up so we can contribute to the fight against ACACIA?



Remember Acacia?

<IMX> 07-06-2003 12:18 PM

I killed 457 men while reading this page.

fantasyman 07-06-2003 12:24 PM

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Originally posted by Nickatilynx


Yeah baby!! I'll turn it on!!!

FM,

Props where its due That was Brad in a nutshell.

I know we don't agree on hardly anything...but...you did give me a lot of coaching several yrs ago.

I wouldn't be going for a swim in my pool with my wife and kids later today if not for it...nor would I be wondering whether to drive my Porsche or Benz tonight

You took out an "insurance policy".Wise move.The end.

Everything else is bullshit,personal animosity etc.

Nick I feel the same way about you, we don't have much in common but I respect your business acumen. I also appreciate your recognition about my coaching, you're a stand up guy.

It's nice to have nice cars, homes, swimming pools, etc. and I'm glad you do, you've worked hard for it.

That MikeAI and Brad want to chastize me and spin my decision into something sick just once again shows their envy and jealousy, no biggy, I can handle it, I'm used to it :)

And yes, we have our 'insurance policy' and they don't. In fact they haven't put up one dime for the Acacia matter. They are playing Ostrich, it could end up being a very expensive game for them. If Acacia prevails, they will see how stupid I am and how smart they are :)

Thanx again for the kind words :thumbsup

Nickatilynx 07-06-2003 12:40 PM

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you're a stand up guy.
That did it!!!!!!!!

Impuning my reputation!!!!!!! I'm gonna sue.

;)

Good luck with your new project FM.Though you won't need it.

The better you are, the luckier you get. :)

MicroChick 07-06-2003 01:56 PM

What a thread!

FM, you are the man! Those at the top will always have rocks thrown at them by the ungrateful masses below.

You did business with the wrong babenet. You should have selected my babe.net. In fact, I think I will put one of your affiliates on my site.

One thing I will have to say for FM. He answers the questions directly, and he has made some damn good business decisions over the years.

MikeAI, is it true you flunked the bar exam? So sad......:Graucho

nosey 07-06-2003 02:14 PM

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Originally posted by <IMX>
I killed 457 men while reading this page.
:BangBang: :ak47:

tony286 07-06-2003 02:54 PM

When you see my new business model you're gonna flip out!!



Cool need someone to take under your wing? :)

fantasyman 07-06-2003 03:49 PM

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Originally posted by MicroChick
What a thread!

FM, you are the man! Those at the top will always have rocks thrown at them by the ungrateful masses below.

You did business with the wrong babenet. You should have selected my babe.net. In fact, I think I will put one of your affiliates on my site.

One thing I will have to say for FM. He answers the questions directly, and he has made some damn good business decisions over the years.

MikeAI, is it true you flunked the bar exam? So sad......:Graucho

Never did any business with Babenet, actually MikeAI was mailing their program and then he accuses me, he's a real class act!!

Thanx for your kind words, all I have ever done is business and that's all my fault :)

fantasyman 07-06-2003 03:51 PM

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Originally posted by Nickatilynx


That did it!!!!!!!!

Impuning my reputation!!!!!!! I'm gonna sue.

;)

Good luck with your new project FM.Though you won't need it.

The better you are, the luckier you get. :)

Let's sue each other :) LOL

I've been accused of being lucky my whole life, but I've learned that I'd rather be lucky than good :thumbsup

Thanx for the well wishing :)

fantasyman 07-06-2003 03:52 PM

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Originally posted by tony404
When you see my new business model you're gonna flip out!!



Cool need someone to take under your wing? :)

You never know - email me at fm at cecash dot com and tell me about yourself!!

bigdog 07-06-2003 04:04 PM

damn long thread. I will have to admit ce's email programs are great. His pay per signup programs kind of suck

fantasyman 07-06-2003 04:10 PM

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Originally posted by bigdog
damn long thread. I will have to admit ce's email programs are great. His pay per signup programs kind of suck
guess you haven't tried Pay It Forward - $20 for every free sign up no deductions - 40% dialer revenue and $5 for each recurring member - our free sign ups convert 3 to 1 over paid trials - give it a shot!!

http://cecash.com/pif.html

And yes, our Email programs are the highest paying email programs around - thanx :)

Pornwolf 07-06-2003 04:20 PM

This is better than a soap opera. :glugglug

fantasyman 07-06-2003 04:31 PM

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Originally posted by Pornwolf
This is better than a soap opera. :glugglug
we're just getting warmed up :)

I'm so tired of these haters that I'll piss with them awhile. When I'm done with them they won't know what their name is. It's funny how MikeAI posts so tough, then he walks up to me at a show, wants pictures taken with me, and laughs and acts like my buddy, saying it's all about advertising when he slams me on the boards, all in good fun. That's what he did two years ago, its pathetic :disgust

........stay tuned

Brujah 07-06-2003 04:36 PM

Holy fuck. FM came, saw and kicked ass up in here.

Look at all the bodies laying around.

:winkwink:

Nickatilynx 07-06-2003 04:38 PM

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I'm so tired of these haters that I'll piss with them awhile
Popcorn!!!

Hotdogs!!!

Mike AI 07-06-2003 04:57 PM

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MikeAI answer one question, what have you ever done FOR the industry, afterall, you've been around since the beginning of time, so you must have made a bunch of contributions to the AdultNet and to Webmasters, please list them......
R-n, unlike you - I have never held myself out as an industry leader. I do not go around like a old peacock strutting around trying to raise my worn out and old feathers.

I am just a guy who stumbled into the biz in 1996, and have worked hard to try a make a living. Nothing more, nothing less.... I do not need to list my contributions, those who have been around long enough, know the score.

Those who can get past your propaganda, and see you for what you are... an egotistical,lying old man - who would sell his own mother down the river for a buck.

At one time you were something, but now you are hardly a shadow of yourself.... you still sprinkle out a few bread crumbs to get the hungry dumb ducks to follow, but your days are behind.

Must hurt? Kind of like an old boxer, who once was a heavy weight champ, but now is 10 years past his prime. Who steps into the ring and gets his face bashed in. Take a hint, RETIRE now.

As far as City Soap, I pulled the plug because it was going no where.... the main reason was our partners in NY.... but we were months behind schedule because of your operation. Everyone who works for you is terified to do anything without your approval. You really need to learn not to micro-manage... ( You have great guys working for you, let them do work, and not cower in the corner waiting for you to bark out orders)

As far as all of your other accusations, all lies and fabrications... Bar Results are public record in the State of Louisiana.... I will give you bet you $1,000,000 cash if you can document and evidence I failed the bar. I know you won't take the bet, because you know the truth... you are just trying to throw as much bullshit at the wall and see if any sticks...

You used to have a skill at pissing.... but now you are an old man, with bladder problems... You really should get that prostate checked more often!

Darren 07-06-2003 05:04 PM

Mike AI you come across as being a complete wanker....

if FM is soooo bad then put some proof out here?

Also its interesting how u only deny or quote select parts of what FM says... got something to hide?


IF as it is as reported, that you have pissing matches like this to advertise then Im afraid all ur getitng is negative advertising....


Also u tell FM to retire because he is "crap at pissing matches" and as "lost is touch"... and i thought the biz was about making money?

Mike AI 07-06-2003 05:08 PM

Nothing better to do on such a nice Sunday afternoon.... just got back from a nice picnic with my family. R-n take some time to enjoy the small things in life.

The whole take off on player hater is pretty funny. R-n defines himself based on money, and what money can buy.

How old are you R-n? What do you have to show for yor life? An ex-wife who hates your guts? Lots of ex-partners who feel the exact same way? Does it make you feel better about yourself when you cruise in your sl55?

I pitty you R-n, you are a lost soul, the Scrooge McDuck of the Internet.... nothing more, nothing less.

R-n you are not a player.... you are a loney, bitter, old man, who has a few bucks. Guess what?? You're not the only one who has money... and the funny thing is, you are old enough to be my dad!!

Your time has come, you're on the decline... and from what I see its a pretty steap slope. Hold on old timer, the ride is going to get rough!

bigdog 07-06-2003 05:08 PM

MikeAi is purecash going to be a pay per trial signup program?

Mike AI 07-06-2003 05:11 PM

Darren, I could respond to each and every part - which question interests you the most?

I just got back in from a nice afternoon with my family....

As far as putting out proof, I have been documenting R-n's shady business practices for years.... It is common knowledge.

I have a feeling you must be one of R-n's $friends$

I will be around for a 15 minutes or so, so ask your question, raise your issues, I will answer all. If not, then I suggest you GFY....

:321GFY

Nickatilynx 07-06-2003 05:12 PM

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R-n take some time to enjoy the small things in life.
Shawcutie does!!!!!

ahahahahahahahaha

Brujah 07-06-2003 05:14 PM

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Originally posted by Nickatilynx


Shawcutie does!!!!!

ahahahahahahahaha

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

You heard that too ?

Mike AI 07-06-2003 05:15 PM

BigDog, PureCash will have PPS, and Revshare.

Our reality sites, movie sites, and normaly generic porn sites ( big cock, teen, etc..) will have trials. The PPS will be an invite only program. To help combat fraud, I want to know each webmaster who sends me PPS traffic.

I will also have single girl amateur sites ( kind of my niche, and contribution to the industry) that will be PPS, but will NOT offer trials. Trials do not work for these type of sites. ( though I will offer trials for revshare as a experiment)

We started beta testing last Friday with our own traffic, so far things are going along very well.

quiet 07-06-2003 05:18 PM

quality thread.

:glugglug

TheFLY 07-06-2003 05:18 PM

What's the patent #? I want to look it up and post it here...

Mike AI 07-06-2003 05:19 PM

Darren??? Where are you?

Have any questions for me? If you were this interested surely you would have hung around.

Feel free to ICQ me about any concerns you have.

11025855

bigdog 07-06-2003 05:26 PM

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Originally posted by Mike AI
BigDog, PureCash will have PPS, and Revshare.

Our reality sites, movie sites, and normaly generic porn sites ( big cock, teen, etc..) will have trials. The PPS will be an invite only program. To help combat fraud, I want to know each webmaster who sends me PPS traffic.

I will also have single girl amateur sites ( kind of my niche, and contribution to the industry) that will be PPS, but will NOT offer trials. Trials do not work for these type of sites. ( though I will offer trials for revshare as a experiment)

We started beta testing last Friday with our own traffic, so far things are going along very well.

cool sounds good. What kind of payouts on pay per signup?

Mike AI 07-06-2003 05:30 PM

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cool sounds good. What kind of payouts on pay per signup?
We are still playing numbers, one reason we are beta testing. If you dop me an e-mail, I can give you some more info and possibly include you in on the beta testing.

We are going to get 10-15 webmasters to help us test things out.

MicroChick 07-06-2003 05:34 PM

I have a question for you, Mike. If you had passed the bar exam, would you be representing Acacia or CECash?

Mike AI 07-06-2003 05:41 PM

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I have a question for you, Mike. If you had passed the bar exam, would you be representing Acacia or CECash?
I would have had to take the exam in order to pass it.

By my first year in law school I realized I hated it, not the law per se, but rather how attorneys abuse the legal system to shake down businesses.

I had significant student loans, which I would have to repay, and since I am not the type of person to quit, I stayed in law school and graduated. My second year I started a multiemedia corporation, that eventually became my adult company.

As far as which side I think should win, that is simple. CECash. Acacia entire business plans relies on enforcing broad patents. The patent they are seeking to enforce is like patenting breathing. I do not think it will be upheld, it definately should NOT be upheld by any court.

They are simply exorting people. It is blackmail, pure and simple. They are abusing the legal system, in my opinion and represent everything that is wrong with the US legal system, and trial attorneys.

I think this is something that even R-n would agree with.

Mike AI 07-06-2003 05:43 PM

MicroChick any relations to http://microbabe.com/ ? :)

Or are you Confucy?

BVF 07-06-2003 05:48 PM

That was a nice cartoon about FM...But it makes it look like he just picked up random muthafuckas off of the street, taught them everything they knew, and made them rich....It couldn't have been that simple....

I've been grinding since 2001.....I sure with someone would put ME on and make ME rich...I'd definitely appreciate it...

Nickatilynx 07-06-2003 05:50 PM

Mike,

to continue the hypothetical.......

If you were the attorney for cecash and received an offer from Acacia offering cecash no cost liscensing ,what would your advice be?

shawcutie 07-06-2003 05:52 PM

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Originally posted by Nickatilynx


Shawcutie does!!!!!

ahahahahahahahaha

I definitely recommend scrapbooking & gardening!! Two of my favorite hobbies!

:thumbsup :thumbsup

Mike AI 07-06-2003 05:53 PM

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But it makes it look like he just picked up random muthafuckas off of the street, taught them everything they knew, and made them rich....It couldn't have been that simple....
Come on BVF, don't be a playa hata!!! R-n made me every dime I have, without him I would be tapdancing on Bourbon St. to make a living!!

R-n created the industry, and everyone who has made any money in it owes it all to R-n!!

I suggest you change your attitude, start kissing some R-n ass, and MAYBE, just maybe R-n will make you wealthy beyond your wildest dreams!!! ( that or send the FTC to your house! )

:winkwink: :Graucho

Kimmykim 07-06-2003 05:57 PM

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Originally posted by Brujah


:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

You heard that too ?

I swear it wasn't me! ;)


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