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FIFTY! FUCK.. FIFTY ONE..

In all honesty.. she is 18 she can do w/e da fuck she wants! =)

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Very interesting comments here.

First, not everyone here is into making a quick buck. Most of the people I deal with are college graduates who are in this for the long haul. I've seen way too many people in this for the quick buck, and they are long gone now. They don't last.

There is nothing wrong with your daughter shooting porn. Dirty Aly called us up on her 18th birthday and said "I want to shoot porn". Six months later she has her own site. Is she better off now than before she was shooting porn? She sure is. She now has her own apartment, we helped her get into a car, we've kept her off of drugs and away from drinking. All of our girls are like this. When I show up at their apartment to give them some furniture they know I'm not going to be asking for anything in return or be throwing passes at them. On top of this they have our support; They call us when their cars break down, and they call us at 2AM when they need a ride.

My advice.... If your daughter is serious about getting into porn let her do it, but take a very active interest in who she is working for. Guide her away from the scum and ensure that she's working with someone who is both established and serious about what they are doing - Not someone who is going to shove drugs up her nose and try to get down her pants.

If you deal with the right people this is a very clean business.

I'm inclined to agree with you.:Graucho didn't say I did 100%, about 75%. Makes good reading I must say. And I learned some.:thumbsup

Funny thing is that he said that .. she wants to do it for the money... but he also mentioned.. that he just bought her a $7000+ horse?

How much money does SHE think she can make????

This thread is fake. I'm getting off the computer and actually doing something today. I'm sure this fake thread will be going on when I get back. It's real fence building weather in LA and I'm doin it! Toodles.

I know thesaint well this is not fake

Let her do it, however do this

1, Show her the business aspect of it
2, Take her to Conventions and show her what it is all about
3, Take her to a live photoshoot to watch
4, Than have a friend of yours make some pictures of her
5, Introduce her to some reliable photographer who are well known
6, Start her with Softcore

If she still wants to do Hardcore hook her up with somebody reliable. However explain to her that their is more money to be made with her own site, keeping the right to her pictures etc.

Make sure her boyfriend signs a model release
Buy her her own domain
Set her up a company and keep the boyfriend away from it
Set her up billing and keep the boyfriend away from it

Why do I think the boyfriend is the push?

I once was a daughter wanting to be in porn and my parents helped me with the legal, business aspect of it.

Good luck to you and your baby-girl, Dad.

PS.
Post one of her pictures, than wait until everybody called her ugly, whore, bitch, bigass, does she do anal, and other degrading words

THAN SHOW HER THE POST AND LET HER READ HOW GUYS REALLY FEEL ABOUT GIRLS IN PORN

xoxoxo

Oh shit! Father and daughters on an adult msg board, how strange. Well I guess since the internet adult industry has been around for almost 10 years we're bound to see more parent/child posters on the board, even though it just seems so strange.

couldn't agree more :thumbsup

agreed on having her meet Manny the Freak, or just show her his pic and say you'll have to fuck him.

BTW send her to me I'll fuck her, hope her BF doesnt mind!

Show her this video ....if she still wants to do it send her over to me and take half the money I pay her !

Show her Manny the Freak ..............and if that does'nt change her mind ...... than give up !

What I would do is re-enforce how much of a great lifestyle porn has given your family then take her along to some photoshoots of yours and some associates. Then gradually try to impress upon her that the real money is the other side of the camera and behind the scenes. If money is her goal and she is smart then she will wise up to that pretty sharpish. If she just wants to get laid then youre screwed.

My :2 cents:

Tell her the brunt of money is in conducting sharp business.
For her to just to be content is a small aspiration and only a fraction.

My reasoning is simply she gonna do what she wants, and if she wants money maybe her mind will be more focused on the money instead of getting in on all the content she can do.

Heh thanks, Biz, yes, I have met a couple other people that post frequently to this board too, some on the telephone and some in person but I usually don't like to mention anyone even by nick - people are weird about that and I try to keep anything said to me confidential. I'll be at the Internext with my wife in a few weeks.

But I assure everybody I don't waste time or BS - one thing I never waste is time - at 48 I feel it slipping away and I only got a limited supply left.

It might seem odd posting something like this on GFY but I actually got many, many articulate answers, more than I was expecting and I thank everybody for that.

I'm going to have a heart to heart with her when she gets back and see where it goes. One thing I can tell you guys for sure I won't be shooting my own daughter, ever, even topless, eeeeekkkkkk!

Anyway, lots of good food for thought, thanks again...

WTF is this, the Jerry Springer show?

What kind of horse ?

"She is drop deal beautiful (although looks like about 14) so I have no doubt she?d be loaded with work."

you have any pix? coz i have seen this thread several times already. gfy

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Let me fuck her and we'll take some pics. :thumbsup

$7500 for a horse? Will you be MY daddy? LOL When I was about to get evicted a few years ago with two kids in tow, I asked my dad for $100 to hold it off a week and he was too broke to do it.

Seriously, though, if you can afford to buy her this stuff anyway, make her work for it. Tell her you'll teach her the production side of things and you'll pay her well to make sites and submit galleries, etc. for you, but tell her that if she gets into this now and has children later, she'll regret the hell out of it because her children will be really embarrassed if one of their friends discovered naked pics of his mom on the internet.

I have a really sexy friend who was in her early thirties and was asked to model nude but she refused even though she needed the money badly because she was afraid of how it would later affect her sons, (then 13, 5 and 2).

At least tell her if she's going to do it, to take the time to talk to some models who do it regularly and to really think about the consequences. Besides, any guy she ever meets who finds out she once posed nude will suddenly think she is an easy lay and will probably cease to be interested in her for who she is anymore. And she can't just not tell them because if they discovered it later they'd feel lied-to and betrayed.

Really, I and fucking know this as a FACT from dating a stripper and hanging out with her friends, some of which do photos also.

about %90 of the girls in porn either DON'T HAVE a dad, OR daddy touched them.

The leftover %10 are greedy lil sluts.

So which one is your daughter?

This is true, she is 18, she will do what she wants. With or without your approval. If you atleast try to help her, she will most likely take what you said into consideration! Why don't you hire her to do some of your work, secretary or do something like that? Get her in the business, just don't let her be the content!

jDoG

my god can you people EVER babble

Sausage.. I agree...


You have to show her what men and the world thing of pornstars. Yea, most do it for attention and easy money. But explain to her that she will never get the respect she deserves and will never be treated properly in life.

I wouldnt even let my daughter do playboy if it was me.


Good luck Saint

Sure there are content producers that will hit on there girls, but then again there are bosses that will hit on there secratery..

Any lawyer will tell you NOT to cross that line with your models, any normal human being will know this at heart. I dont doubt there are people out there that violate this.

The "casting couch" is alive and well in almost every business somewhere... Music and Entertainment is full of it, hell half the times when I do A&R work with a female band/singer/ she's throwing herself at me...

To the original post like anything else you can not control what someone else is going to do, the best thing you can do is educate her on the pitfalls, but these same pitfalls apply to the real would and not just the porn business, how many advertising models have blown there way to stardom...

Nothing wrong with a woman wanting to show off her body, its a very powerful feeling from what I understand. Look at that wilson philips chick who dropped 200lbs and then posed for playboy she did it cause well frankly she could...and it made her feel good.

Its obvious there are many levels of people in this business especily the content side, sure i've seen the fucked up coke addicts who would fuck anything and anyone for a gram of blow (have i mentioned how much against coke i am) i've also seen the collage girls who just need some extra cash to get by... Or even the girls who actualy enjoy it...again its a powerful feeling knowing that some guy(s) out there are getting off looking at you.

Hell reading GFY for a bit will show you all of these levels, we have it all here...and im just talking the american/canadian producers as I dont understand the european mindset im sure paul could explain that better than myself.

Look im not going to bullshit, im not a parent.. I dont have kids I'm married and i'm not sure I will ever want kids, but it seems to me the best way to raise your children is to educate them as best as you can to give them the ammo they need to go out into this world (and it can be a harsh world) let them make there own decisions and be there to celebrate the good ones, and be there for a shoulder to cry on for the bad ones.

I must be completly insane giving this type of advise on GFY...

In the words of chirs rock

"if your daughter is a pole dancer you have failed as a father"

Porn is a step beyond failure. Even though I do porn now (which isnt even porn cause its tgps lol) it is only a stepping stone to something bigger and better.

No matter how good a girl is if her main career is porn then her parents and her are a failure in society.

My :2 cents:

i'm really surprised at the opinion that many major players have in this industry for the models.

It's really disgusting.

yes there are some fucked up models - but there are fucked up people in EVERY profession.

I know MANY MANY nude and HARDCORE models that are smart, intelligent, brave, respectful people that I'm PROUD to call my friends.

just off the top of my head I can list a few.

Nina, kaylacam, angelonfire, Dugmor, Easton, Pink in the Middle, Bruno B, RocHard, etc.


I'm really really disapointed in you self -rightous assholes that think that posing nude or hardcore destroys someone's life. I don't believe that for a second.

I am not showing my tits to earn some respect

:Graucho

I wanna know what breed the damn horse was...

If you hadn't been working in the porn biz - do you think your daughter would have this desire?

You reap what you sow.

Perhaps you could have concealed the nature of your business over the years.

Anyways - the best advice I can give you is get her into marketing.

She will make more money in front of a computer than she will doing porn.

If she is truly a sharp cookie she will see that there is no reason for her to become 'content'

Shit, you shoot her content for her of other chicks (or buy it) then make a paysite etc etc and let her run it.

Show her how CHEAP content is - why the hell would she want to become content - at the bottom of the food chain, rather than at the top of the food chain?

Have her talk to some successful female adult webmasters that don't need to turn themselves into content to make $100k/yr+

That is exactly what she needs to do.
She simply needs some perspective.

where are the mother/daughter pics?

how abotu to make a friend?

I'll show you mine if you show me yours?

fucking disgusting attitude

Unbelievable!

have we forgotten?

Without the whores, where would the pimps be?

BTW, thank you Sleazy...just to extrapolate a bit here

We are all whores in one aspect of our lives or another. I just lacked imagination and became a whore in the more common way.

None of us can say anything until we see pics. She may not be porn material and is dreaming an impossible dream. Who knows.

"If you hadn't been working in the porn biz - do you think your daughter would have this desire?

You reap what you sow."

Is this not true?

"Have her talk to some successful female adult webmasters that don't need to turn themselves into content to make $100k/yr+"

She has already been exposed to this business for 7 years - she is going to be involved in someway or another - 7 years of this lifestyle you better beleive it. So how is this bad advice. If I had a daughter in this situation I would RATHER have her market than become content and I know I am not the only one that feels this way.

if my daughter WANTED to be in this business i wouldn't stop her.

like any other business it has it's ups and downs. I'd have her talk to some industry people I trust and respect first to be safe about it - other that that I wouldn't be against it as long I was comfortable she was working with professionals.


you really should'nt be in porn with that attitude. It's Hypicritical

im hard

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TheSaint, if its money, why is she complaining, you just bought her a $7500 horse, why not buy her everything she needs and then there's no motive to do porn.

I'm sure you didn't really buy the horse and dont have tons of cash, BUT if you know its the money and you know she's not a complete slut, she'll do like 1 shoot / week maximum, considering she goes to school and such.

Why not offer her a salary of $500 / week or even $1000 for doing something productive, say making TGP sites ;) that way you can recoup a bit of cash on the $1000 as well as pay her. Figure she makes $500 revenue of the sites, and you pay her $1000, so that's $500 from your pocket.

7500/500 = 15 weeks or almost 4 months. Why buy the horse when you can buy yourself another worker :)

Just straight 2centsense!

Saint .. there is nothing wrong with a young, sexual girl wanting or being in porn ..

however since you do peddle the stuff, isn't it a little Condisending for you to "lay the law" so to speak ...

Giving the benifit of the doubt .. since you are in this bizz .. you do respect the women and men that make the content whether it be shoot, sell, or preform ..

Double standards are a bitch

I might be professional, but I don't recall being a model or content, hardcore or otherwise (that thing in the hot tub with two lesbians in Vegas last November does't count!!!!!)

I'm really hesitating to answer this one, sorry. Its a sort of unusual breed (most of the other girls compete on throughbreds) and its a small world (in the horse show circuit) so I'd rather not say on a public board.

Another fake character.. That one sounds like that DearAbby person

Sounds like a quarter horse, appaloosa or maybe an arab from the pricetag.

Ok just don't count me in that group. If I thought that I woudn't shoot, period. Most of the girls I have shot - I would be glad to be friends with and I respect.

As I said, its just that I think she can do better, maybe brain surgeon or governer or something. I wouldn't want her to be a fashion model, or for that matter a store manager or a teacher.

Come to think of it I wouldn't want her to shoot porn either, its just about seeing her finish college before she makes any serious choices with her life not easily undone.

Wtf is wrong with saying what breed of horse it is? Should I start naming them? I trained show horses for years.. I could probably start at the top of the list, however the horses I worked with had a pricetag of more like $150,000 and up. $7,500 isn't THAT special of a horse, I don't care WHAT breed it is ;P


Either that or it's a baby :P

Competing with thoroughbreds.... hanovarians, trakaeners, arabians, perhaps a conamara, depending on the class of shows. Tell me the show circuit and the class and I can probably pinpoint the breeds that excel in that class.