I am not showing my tits to earn some respect

:Graucho

I wanna know what breed the damn horse was...

If you hadn't been working in the porn biz - do you think your daughter would have this desire?

You reap what you sow.

Perhaps you could have concealed the nature of your business over the years.

Anyways - the best advice I can give you is get her into marketing.

She will make more money in front of a computer than she will doing porn.

If she is truly a sharp cookie she will see that there is no reason for her to become 'content'

Shit, you shoot her content for her of other chicks (or buy it) then make a paysite etc etc and let her run it.

Show her how CHEAP content is - why the hell would she want to become content - at the bottom of the food chain, rather than at the top of the food chain?

Have her talk to some successful female adult webmasters that don't need to turn themselves into content to make $100k/yr+

That is exactly what she needs to do.
She simply needs some perspective.

where are the mother/daughter pics?

how abotu to make a friend?

I'll show you mine if you show me yours?

fucking disgusting attitude

Unbelievable!

have we forgotten?

Without the whores, where would the pimps be?

BTW, thank you Sleazy...just to extrapolate a bit here

We are all whores in one aspect of our lives or another. I just lacked imagination and became a whore in the more common way.

None of us can say anything until we see pics. She may not be porn material and is dreaming an impossible dream. Who knows.

"If you hadn't been working in the porn biz - do you think your daughter would have this desire?

You reap what you sow."

Is this not true?

"Have her talk to some successful female adult webmasters that don't need to turn themselves into content to make $100k/yr+"

She has already been exposed to this business for 7 years - she is going to be involved in someway or another - 7 years of this lifestyle you better beleive it. So how is this bad advice. If I had a daughter in this situation I would RATHER have her market than become content and I know I am not the only one that feels this way.

if my daughter WANTED to be in this business i wouldn't stop her.

like any other business it has it's ups and downs. I'd have her talk to some industry people I trust and respect first to be safe about it - other that that I wouldn't be against it as long I was comfortable she was working with professionals.


you really should'nt be in porn with that attitude. It's Hypicritical

im hard

:glugglug

TheSaint, if its money, why is she complaining, you just bought her a $7500 horse, why not buy her everything she needs and then there's no motive to do porn.

I'm sure you didn't really buy the horse and dont have tons of cash, BUT if you know its the money and you know she's not a complete slut, she'll do like 1 shoot / week maximum, considering she goes to school and such.

Why not offer her a salary of $500 / week or even $1000 for doing something productive, say making TGP sites ;) that way you can recoup a bit of cash on the $1000 as well as pay her. Figure she makes $500 revenue of the sites, and you pay her $1000, so that's $500 from your pocket.

7500/500 = 15 weeks or almost 4 months. Why buy the horse when you can buy yourself another worker :)

Just straight 2centsense!

Saint .. there is nothing wrong with a young, sexual girl wanting or being in porn ..

however since you do peddle the stuff, isn't it a little Condisending for you to "lay the law" so to speak ...

Giving the benifit of the doubt .. since you are in this bizz .. you do respect the women and men that make the content whether it be shoot, sell, or preform ..

Double standards are a bitch

I might be professional, but I don't recall being a model or content, hardcore or otherwise (that thing in the hot tub with two lesbians in Vegas last November does't count!!!!!)

I'm really hesitating to answer this one, sorry. Its a sort of unusual breed (most of the other girls compete on throughbreds) and its a small world (in the horse show circuit) so I'd rather not say on a public board.

Another fake character.. That one sounds like that DearAbby person

Sounds like a quarter horse, appaloosa or maybe an arab from the pricetag.

Ok just don't count me in that group. If I thought that I woudn't shoot, period. Most of the girls I have shot - I would be glad to be friends with and I respect.

As I said, its just that I think she can do better, maybe brain surgeon or governer or something. I wouldn't want her to be a fashion model, or for that matter a store manager or a teacher.

Come to think of it I wouldn't want her to shoot porn either, its just about seeing her finish college before she makes any serious choices with her life not easily undone.

Wtf is wrong with saying what breed of horse it is? Should I start naming them? I trained show horses for years.. I could probably start at the top of the list, however the horses I worked with had a pricetag of more like $150,000 and up. $7,500 isn't THAT special of a horse, I don't care WHAT breed it is ;P


Either that or it's a baby :P

Competing with thoroughbreds.... hanovarians, trakaeners, arabians, perhaps a conamara, depending on the class of shows. Tell me the show circuit and the class and I can probably pinpoint the breeds that excel in that class.

So you had to buy her a $7500 horse then she wants more money.

I bet that either:

a) She and her boyfriend dreamt this up to get more cash from you.
b) She sounds a stuck up spoilt bitch who needs a good arse fucking from a horse so encourage her.

If you want to establish yourself as a perv AND make her NOT want to do it, just go ahead and get overinvolved in her nascent porn career.

Frankly I don't think it's any of your business unless you plan on being supportive and trusting of her at an appropriate arm's length. Give her information (just modelling is STUPID when she could have her own site while avoiding the whole potential degredation of the Khan Tusion's of the world). If she wants to do it for money I hope you advise her to be her own webmaster and learn the industry from the inside out. Let her know some horror stories and also success stories of chicks who have complete control over their errr . . . images.

Chances are that if she's as pampered and spoiled as you have hinted, she will get discouraged fast. I'm not saying she's a bad person or not a hard worker, but she will learn on her own that making a living in porn is not just a fast easy buck -- it's hard work and emotionally challenging.

Interesting situation . . .

i'm an open mind, but i would have murder her in this case

Nope.:Graucho My gelding is an app, had an arab in the past (too spooky), quarters are not too popular in her circuits.

Lets say its something like a warmblood mix, close enough.

Incidentally, I misspoke on the price. It was $5500, according to my wife. You sound like you know enough about horses to know, but for benefit of others reading the thread, that $5500, $7500, $9500 is not a very expensive horse, there are kids at the show 14 or 15 ridding $20,000 horses.

I've posted about this passion of mine before. There aren't too many guys riding horses in the U.S. but I have had them for many years.

If you want my advice as a glamour photographer of many years you will try your best to talk her out of becoming a model. Some photographers can be too pushy and ask models to do more and more and a new model is particularly susceptible to this sort of pressure. It is true that guys viewing websites do ask for harder and harder content and to be fare its the photographers job to get as much out of his models as possible, but there is a limit and some do cross that line.

If you just cannot reason with her try to steer her away from Internet work and more towards magazines. If she is as cute as you say she will make more money and usually the magazine photographers are better known and safer to shoot with. Examples of excellent photographers here in LA are J,Stephen Hicks. Suez Randell, Holly Randell . All these guys are well known photographers.

Ask yourself this:

a) Does she have any qualifications?
b) Is she of any use to anyone on the planet in a non porn way?
c) Can she afford her drug habbit?
d) Is she a lazy little bitch?
e) Is she an attention seeker who would love to be Madonna but has no talent what so ever?

I think that you will come to the conclusion after answering the above and from the way you describe her that she really is suited to porn.

Buying her a $7500 horse, her boyfriend just happens to tell you "Oh future father in law of mine your little girl wants to do Max Hardcore"...get a life here....

Are you coming to Internext?

and to be more specific:

"According to her boyfriend, the primary impetus is money."

The first thing you should worry is if this decision is influenced somehow by her boyfriend. I can't imagine having a daughter and her bf to come and tell me such thing. The only case would be if he has bored his life and decided to take a never-ending vacation....

Your daughter is 18 y.old,she can vote, drink, fuck whatever she wants according to law, but this doesn't necessarily means she is mature enough to take such a decision. Maturity comes through life experiences. Has your daughter ever worked? Did she finish high school? Does she have any plans to further study? Does she lives alone or not?

From the things i read your daughter is not mature enough to take such a decision. It's your obligation as a father to protect her interests. Her decision might influence her life forever.

I've read many interviews of female pornstars. Whenever they are asked if they would want their daughters to do porn in the future, none of them ever answers yes.

You can have your daughter asking them why not. I'm sure this will help her have some things cleared in her mind.

I'll do it with her! :glugglug

I am a Porn Star (to be) !! :GFYBand


~ Lawrence Connor :Graucho

Ok, I think this can all be settled with one pic of her and we will judge.

Yeah,

POST A PIC!!

I have a Morgan :Graucho

Lawrence Connor waiting here! :GFYBand

I was going to say POST A PIC , but after 3 pages someone beat me to it. Damn.

Yeah.. I've ridden since I could walk, and I was an assistant to the head trainer of Spruce Meadows. Dunno if you've heard of it.. But anyone heavy in the equestrian world generally has. Johnathan Aislinn is his name. He was at the Olympics a few years back.. He retired from training for the meadows when he married the owner's daughter, and opened his own place.. I worked for him there. I also trained my own showhorses (I had a purebred arabian mare I used in the shows.. she was absolutely solid, but I hand-raised her). Generally though those Circuits include dutch warmbloods, hanoverians, traehkaners, thoroughbreds , irish warmbloods, those breeds. Quarter horses are too bunchy in the back end and they're sprinters, they generally don't have the staying power to keep it afloat over a real eventing course. I prefer to keep my quarter horses in the team penning events :) I rode rodeo for a few years too with family.. that was a wild ride.

As for pricetags, yes, that's about average for a good riding horse.. a little on the low end for a showhorse, but then again Ian Millar paid peanuts for Big Ben at a horseshow, no bloodlines no squat, and when the big boy passed he was worth well over a million. It's relative. I've seen blooded horses who were imported and paid hundreds of thousands for who were worthless, not even good for breeding, and nothing paperless hacks who ended up coming in and winning everything :) The average pricetag for a high-end top class eventer though generally starts in the range of $400,000 or so...

Awesome.. I love morgans.. They rack, don't they? I am pretty sure they do.. Awesome fucking gait.. Do you know the bloodlines?

My interest in horses is more casual than yours... large pets, really. :1orglaugh We have an appoloosa, an outgrown but much beloved useless pony of unknown origin, and an Andelusian (sic?) mix. My daughter tried eventing but we never really had enough of a horse to be competitive. Always we ended up with an animal that excelled in x-country, but sucked at dessage, or vice-versa.

My wife and I just enjoy hacking along and since we only learned to ride about 10 years ago, we are not very skilled at it either, but the horses don't seem to mind.

Its just something that is in your blood; I love my horses. On a freezing winter night I can just go out back and stare at them for hours.

italians eat them

Her father is Serr Royal Mark son of troutbrook hallmark
grandson of Waseeka's in Command

Serrr Royal's mother was Moonset Beams Legacy daughter of Beamington



My horse's mother is Serrr's Alicia daughter of Don Dany's Diamond

My horse's name is Royal Desire.. LOL.. I call her Desi..

Her father was a World Champion if I remember correct

She is gaited for English but I rode Western and showed Western so I am going to train her for that anyway since I can go outside now that my asmtha and allergies are being treated..

http://www.morganphotoarchive.com/page9.html

Grandpa