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Maru 07-24-2003 07:54 AM

And then there's crime.

The crime rate is lower in a high-tax country. A murder is frontpage news here in Denmark. There's no guns in circulation. You can walk the streets at night in any part of the country. There's no desperate people doing crimes for a living except for the occasional drug addict who may try to break into your house.

Life without fear.

keyDet79 07-24-2003 08:43 AM

Holland has one of the highest rates, 35% tax over your profit, 19% VAT over your turnover. Comes down to about 54% (for minimum wage), and it can be a lot higher if your turnover is high but the profit low (if you have a lot of bills).

By the way, can anyone give me the tax rates in Germany? Thanks.

rowan 07-24-2003 10:13 AM

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Originally posted by sacX
and one thing often forgotten is sales tax.. most things you buy you're paying more tax.. GRRRRR
Don't forget 'hidden' taxes like fuel excise. In Australia, you have...

1. retail price of fuel supplier
2. plus fuel excise
3. plus 10% GST of 1+2

It's a double tax.

Currently Melbourne prices are 84c per litre according to Shell, which is broken down like this:

a) 34.6c refinery price
b) 45.3c tax
c) 4.1c margin

The tax added is actually higher than the sum of the refinery price and margin, so it more than doubles the cost at the pump.

rowan 07-24-2003 10:27 AM

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Originally posted by richard123
So... how do you get the money out from the company without paying the balance between the 47% and the 30%?

I'm about to look into this myself, I'm already losing money as an individual by not setting up a company... I don't know if there will be any direct monetary benefits (unless you do tricky things like deliberate losses or keep most of your profits sitting untouched in a corporate bank account), but there should be indirect benefits such as salary sacrificing (cheaper new car!) and super. Another way to save a bit of on income tax with a teired system like Australia is to employ your partner and split the salary down the middle.

Let's say...

100k taxable income on Joe Aussie
=$33,807 in tax

But split that in half...

50k taxable income on Joe Aussie
50k taxable income on Jo Aussie
=$11,172 each ($22,344 total tax)

BTW, I'm in Melbourne too. :)

davvve 07-24-2003 10:34 AM

sweden is pretty crazy:

Income tax: 30-50% depending on how much you earn
Social fees: 30%

VAT: 25%

So if you'd earn $10k / month as a sole proprietor you'd have $3.5k left. And when you then burn that money on things you'll have to pay 25% VAT.

So I guess it'd be fair to say that we swedes pay about 72% in taxes.

davvve 07-24-2003 10:40 AM

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Originally posted by smut monger
Let me ask you in other way then. Let's say you earned $30k/year - how much taxes you would pay in your country from this amount: 20%, 30%, 40%, 50% or more?
sweden: ~50% including social fees

Probono 07-24-2003 10:43 AM

The good old US taxes more than people think.

People forget that on top of the Federal Income Tax most States have an income tax, some cities have an income tax. Sales, Vehicle taxes, fuel taxes, Medicare Tax, Social Security tax.

Then consider, no free medical care, no free college education, etc.

You get what you pay for in Europe, we pay and get squat.

davvve 07-24-2003 10:44 AM

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Originally posted by Maru


I'm not going to defend the Danish taxes - and the present government want to lower them if they can - but.... you failed to mention that basically everything is included in those taxes: Free universities, free medi-care, free hospitals, etc, etc. There's no poverty here like you'll meet it in USA or elsewhere.

It turns out that this socialdemocratic society cannot be sustained in a modern world. Immigrants from third world countries flock to come to Scandinavia. They can get it all for free here - and that'll break the back of the socialdemocratic camel.

So - the way to go is to bring down taxes and let people pay for themselves. :thumbsup

damn true

richard123 07-24-2003 03:53 PM

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Originally posted by rowan


I'm about to look into this myself, I'm already losing money as an individual by not setting up a company...

If your income is from overseas, I assume you've looked into keeping it offshore and bringing it in via other means than cashing the cheques in your bank account...? You might consider having no money going thru your Australian banks at all.

traffictrader 07-24-2003 04:03 PM

Well obviously Sweden and Holland will have higher tax... the more socialis thte country the higher the tax.... but the more things it gets you too.

besterman 07-24-2003 04:16 PM

I'm surprised nobody said the USA - has one of the higher tax rates in the world. Of course depends on your income, but a successful corporation is paying almost 40%.

Gunni 07-24-2003 05:25 PM

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Originally posted by Maru
And then there's crime.

The crime rate is lower in a high-tax country. A murder is frontpage news here in Denmark. There's no guns in circulation. You can walk the streets at night in any part of the country. There's no desperate people doing crimes for a living except for the occasional drug addict who may try to break into your house.

Life without fear.

Excuse me, but where in Denmark do you live?
Did you know that in an average week there are 5 armed robberies in Denmark? And that is in a country of 5 million people!
You've got the Hells Angels running the drug market, shooting up who ever gets in their way. And personally, I do not feel all that safe walking around Istegade on a weekend after midnight.
You do not live in somesort of a crime free paradise.
And that bullshit theory of yours about high-tax countries being safer than others, what are you comparing with? Congo?
Germany is more dangerous than England, and they still pay way more taxes in Germany, so this little theory of yours kind of kills it self :glugglug


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