Hey guys and gals Thank you so much for the help/tips I would of fig i would of been flamed harder for being so stupid in letting them use my shit, thanks, when your as nieve as I am you dont think this will ever happen friends dont FUCK friends... tomorrow will be D day for me Im turning myself into the police along with all the emails and a huge statment I have written up. Wish me luck... Thanks aGAIN

tom

agreed. being asked to lend your account to someone else would have set alarms off in my head.


damn Tom. hope this works out for ya man. hate to see it happen, but i wouldnt count on gary or his wife getting shit straight....i'd be getting some legal advise quick. :2 cents:

more likely you were an asshole. Recalling the small amount of traffic you manage, I'm surpized your still in biz.:thumbsup

"Also, Tom if the cops are still on your ass about this please give them a copy of the letter I wrote to you for social services because in that letter it says that we were the ones that did this and not you."

well maybe im wrong,but if someone was trying to scam you Tom, would he tell you such thing?

What was the total amount of the products sold?

The dates on the emails say alot. After several emails, and telling them the auction winners were breathing down his neck, they promise on a friday to help him out the following monday.. at the latest. The next contact is dated the thursday after that.

Thats just fucked up.. reeks of a scam imo.

At first glance, you would be right. But since the cops were never called on Tom's behalf like mentioned...

i see... among other things, i didn't like the part of mailing people with tom's name. That crossed many lines

Something we like to call fraud. :)

I don't recall being an asshole. I'm suprised I'm still in biz too. If it wasn't for Choker I would have never survived. :)

that sucks Tom, Gary seemed kinda cool in Montreal :(

:winkwink:

Sorry if I missed it, but what was/were the product(s) ?

dvds games and game systems :(

omg Tom this mis bad mate. If there's anything I can do you have my ICQ so just hit me up.

damn tom, read that whole shit. gary and his wife, what a bunch of fucks. if i saw that peice of shit i would cut off his fuckin balls. sounds like a bunch of heroin junkies pulling scams for a fix.

I have a pitchfork!

Who has some torches and 2 ropes??

Let's storm Canada! :1orglaugh

Most of you need to go find a cock to suck on.... Gary is a solid guy and whatever the fuck this is about, it's obviously a problem that is out of his hands. It will be taken care of. Gary is stand up. Always has been.

Chill the fuck out people.

Tom has a home to maintain and children to feed, too. Gary isnt' just fucking with Tom, he's fucking with his children too. Gary step up to the plate and fucking pay up.

For everyone else, order some templates from Tom.. You won't be disappointed.. his work is fucking TOP NOTCH.

WE'll hope it was just a big fuckup all around.. but as of tomorrow it could be beyond out of his hands.. Tom COULD go to jail for this :(

this just makes me sick. some people in this world.. i just dunno.

i've been ripped off twice on ebay and it wasn't a nice feeling

100 :BangBang:

101 now :winkwink:

102

Order some templates or something instead of just bumping this thread :P

:eek7

People have been murdered for alot less than I just lost.

Your situation is very fucked. Hope you get something out of all this.

Was this all in Canada?

I dont know who Gary is really? Was he the catfight guy or whatever?

Didnt he used to own a board? Or am I mixed it?

Just curious on the geographical issues? USA as well or all Canada?

How much money are these people out?

How much fraud?

Hope things work out for you Tom...the exact same thing happened to me...Gary used my account...(which I never used before) ...at first I received some good feedback, but then one guy called me here at home, saying he hasn't received his shit!...I explained to him that I couldn't do much except forward the word to Gary...fortunatly the guy was kinda cool, and he understood that it wasn't my fault...so I checked my feedback...and I was now at a 3:1 ratio (3bad for 1good)...I started freaking out...and yelled at Gary....he told me everything would be shipped, that I should relax and wait...fortunatly, he did ship everything....but my ebay account is still closed. I know Gary never intended to scam me, he's just lazy on the shipping...anyway...hope things will work out for you like it did for me tom...what would really help would be able to fucking reach him...haven't talked to him in the last 2 weeks...

Hey man, He used your account as well? He had an account, yours, and mine? He did ship the stuff out for your account? um, AMP I know Gary was a standup guy but standup guys dont hide, or not respond ive never had problems with gary before this, im freaking out cause this is a lot of money to me, charges are being filed against me, Ive lost alot of money, and if it is out of his hands and he can't do anything about this then he could at least let me know so I can do something else tell all these people something, but now I have to goto the police dept in 3 hours (11am est) and fill out this report. He wont anwser his phone, his emails, Icq's nothing!

man this is a big mess, if he would just talk with me tell me something anything, after reading silverTab's post it makes me fill a little better that maybe he really didnt mean for this to happen and wasnt scamming me ( which I would of never thought would of happened with gary) SHIT Im in a catch 22 he has allways been good to me, and we allways worked good together imo, and out of know where this shit has happened. Gary if you read this it's 9am please man CALL ME now before I go so we can work out something and I can tell the dectives something other then you wont respond to my calls,emails,icq's PLEASE dude..

TOM

I do. And I'm never wrong about newbies who will never amount to much in this biz.

I really hope I never piss you off sir,

hehe
TOM

I plan on building my own empire... without ripping off other webmasters... so it might take me a little longer... but I'll get there... :thumbsup

wow, monday morning and you're posting!
work nights or still live with mommy?

Tom, hit me up on icq if you think I can help you out.

Yes! :thumbsup

dont have your icq anymore, [email protected] is my email sir, if you dont want to post your icq here
TOM

Reading all the other statements and then reading this made me angry. Fair enough you like this guy and think its all a mistake. Why then hasn't he replied to Tom by e-mail or in this thread? For someone who has 6000+ posts he must be around somewhere!!!

I fail to see how you can say what you did and try to protect him. I think you should maybe have waited till he replied before jumping in and saying what you did Amp. No disrespect whatsoever to you but I think there is just too much in this thread to allow you to back him now. If only he would reply and clear the whole situation up....

My coments were not directed at Tom or the others involved in whatever this is about.... they have every right and reason to say whatever they need to say to get this worked out...

what I didn't like was the dogpiling on gary by people that have nothing to do with this whatsoever, before it's even begun to be figured out. Tom and the others need to do what they need to do.... but fuckers like GFED are only creating mob mentality here.

I don't have any idea what this is about.... but I find it hard to swallow that someone that's been in this biz legitimately for years would suddenly scam some people for pocket change and then vanish without a trace. Maybe he did.... maybe there's something else going on. I don't really know.