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swedguy 08-08-2003 08:42 AM

All the script src and img src redirect to this:

404 to:
http://www.sexushost.com/next.htm
Redirects to:
http://www.sexushost.com/cgi-bin/404
Redirects to:
http://adult-site-traffic.com/traffic/out.cgi?c=37

completetosser 08-08-2003 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by RobertD


Amicably resolved? Looks like people are flat out getting fucked.


True, but I am hoping it will be resolved amicably. I've just written to the broker so I should know shortly. I'm hoping to be able to resolve it privately

rowan 08-08-2003 08:44 AM

Ok, instead of noting the domains from the status line, I am now copying them verbatim from my proxy logs.

http://www.titsandassgalore.com/tgp.shtml?AST
http://www.titsandassgalore.com/tgp.shtml?AST
http://revshareamateurs.com/rev3331/.../index.htm?AST
http://free-trial.real-links.com/index.shtml?AST
http://naughtymaturesex.com/missing.html?AST
http://www.dutchteenamateurs.com/tgp...ndex.shtml?AST

biporn 08-08-2003 08:45 AM

Funny how this business is...
Everytime someone fucks another up the ass...

There is allways a pussy trying to solve this behind closed doors so he wont trash the poor theif...

Unreal...

completetosser 08-08-2003 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by biporn
Funny how this business is...
Everytime someone fucks another up the ass...

There is allways a pussy trying to solve this behind closed doors so he wont trash the poor theif...

Unreal...

I assume I am the pussy you are referring to.

FWIW - my take is this. I bought the traffic in good faith from a broker. To the best of my knowledge he also bought it in good faith from his source. It's clear that his source has ripped us both of. So the broker can say to me 'yep, we were both ripped, here's your money back'.

Now if that's the case, if I posted his name here, all I would be doing would be causing a lot of shit for someone who was an innocent party in this.

On the other hand, if anything happens that makes me think the actual broker has ripped me off, then I will be more than willing to name him here.

For the time being, I'm working on the basis of innocent until proven guilty

Adult Site Traffic 08-08-2003 09:09 AM

All of the traffic from that stream is off, and now getting my traffic.

It will be slow.

If you were recieving this traffic, contact me.

AST

lil2rich4u2 08-08-2003 09:10 AM

i think they are handling it very well.

BUT i do think eventually someone needs to be fingered in public.

otherwise who do we know NOT to trust??

Adult Site Traffic 08-08-2003 09:13 AM

What are you talking about Rowan? Aren't you an affiliate of buying-traffic.com ?

Are you in my delivery script under another name?

I don't know what you're referring to here..

AST

Naughty 08-08-2003 09:16 AM

Wow, hoew long has this been going on?
We bought a ton of traffic last few months and we had 0 signups or dialerminutes, I wonder if we've been had as well.

rowan 08-08-2003 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Adult Site Traffic


What are you talking about Rowan? Aren't you an affiliate of buying-traffic.com ?

Are you in my delivery script under another name?

I don't know what you're referring to here..

AST

That's where some of the i-f-r-a-m-e'd 404s were being redirected to, when I loaded the URL (from the very first post) repeatedly. Looks like xratedhits has some very shady methods of generating his (your) traffic.....

rowan 08-08-2003 09:20 AM

50 exit consoles

Theo 08-08-2003 09:21 AM

50

He is coming back

completetosser 08-08-2003 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by rowan


That's where some of the i-f-r-a-m-e'd 404s were being redirected to, when I loaded the URL (from the very first post) repeatedly. Looks like xratedhits has some very shady methods of generating his (your) traffic.....

He's got a shady whois as well - how long has Essex been in France?

Adult Site Traffic 08-08-2003 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by rowan


That's where some of the i-f-r-a-m-e'd 404s were being redirected to, when I loaded the URL (from the very first post) repeatedly. Looks like xratedhits has some very shady methods of generating his (your) traffic.....

Ok. Redirected " TO " is the operative here. Please explain what that has to do with "proxy logs". That's a pretty heavy word in a thread that I'm implicated in. I don't understand what you mean.

And. Are you in my delivery under a different name, or are we talking about buying-traffic.com ?

Thanks,

AST

completetosser 08-08-2003 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by rowan
50 exit consoles
500 with the hidden i-f-r-a-m-e-s :)

Adult Site Traffic 08-08-2003 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by completetosser


He's got a shady whois as well - how long has Essex been in France?

My whois is "domains by proxy". Godaddy.

( I've been accused of being a cheater named "Steve Goldman" because of that fact also, LOL )

AST

TheSenator 08-08-2003 09:29 AM

Who are the trusted traffic brokers?

rowan 08-08-2003 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Adult Site Traffic


Ok. Redirected " TO " is the operative here. Please explain what that has to do with "proxy logs". That's a pretty heavy word in a thread that I'm implicated in. I don't understand what you mean.

And. Are you in my delivery under a different name, or are we talking about buying-traffic.com ?

Thanks,

AST

Sorry about the misunderstanding. By proxy, I mean my local web proxy/cache - the one I run on my network to allow several computers to share a link. I wasn't intending to suggest that you were delivering proxy traffic. Those URLs were pulled directly from my proxy logs, I was watching them go by as I repeatedly reloaded the URL. I posted them here to show that xratedhits was delivering those hits to you, which then got sent to buyers. Here's how it happens:

1. Surfer loads page
2. Source includes two hidden i-f-r-a-m-e-s which are 404
3. xratedhits 404 handler redirects that i-f-r-a-m-e to adult-site-traffic
4. your site redirects to your buyer, appending ?AST to the deliver URL

I am a buying-traffic affiliate, but that's all... with regards to this issue, I'm purely an observer and/or commentator. :)

I'd be really interested to see what xratedhits has to say about all of this.

lil2rich4u2 08-08-2003 09:33 AM

ravo and turboface

both have done good by me.

completetosser 08-08-2003 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Adult Site Traffic


My whois is "domains by proxy". Godaddy.

( I've been accused of being a cheater named "Steve Goldman" because of that fact also, LOL )

AST

AST, I was referring to the xratedhits whois. I've never looked at yours :) :

lil2rich4u2 08-08-2003 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by rowan
I'd be really interested to see what xratedhits has to say about all of this.
he is busy making a new GFY name and redesigning his site with new logo.


dont bother him now.

Adult Site Traffic 08-08-2003 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by rowan
I am a buying-traffic affiliate, but that's all... with regards to this issue, I'm purely an observer and/or commentator. :)

I'd be really interested to see what xratedhits has to say about all of this.

Ok, I understand. Thanks.

And, so would I. I'm getting hit from all angles right now.

AST 121760557

Adult Site Traffic 08-08-2003 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by completetosser


AST, I was referring to the xratedhits whois. I've never looked at yours :) :

Yea, I know :)

I just wanted to make it clear :winkwink:

AST

sexushosting 08-08-2003 09:38 AM

Hi everybody, I own these hosts and the 404 traffic is provided by me.

Please believe me when I say that the generation of the 404 traffic is not handled by me but by my hosting developer who has much experience in the adult website industry

Please be assured that this thread and more importantly what is happening here to clients horrifies me and I have contacted my developer to demand some answers.

I promise you all that I was NOT aware of this problem and I will respond to this thread with some more details when I have it.

At this stage I apologise for the problems that appear to be taking place here.

Thank you.

lil2rich4u2 08-08-2003 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sexushosting
Hi everybody, I own these hosts and the 404 traffic is provided by me.

Please believe me when I say that the generation of the 404 traffic is not handled by me but by my hosting developer who has much experience in the adult website industry

Please be assured that this thread and more importantly what is happening here to clients horrifies me and I have contacted my developer to demand some answers.

I promise you all that I was NOT aware of this problem and I will respond to this thread with some more details when I have it.

At this stage I apologise for the problems that appear to be taking place here.

Thank you.

and the plot thickens ........

rowan 08-08-2003 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sexushosting
Hi everybody, I own these hosts and the 404 traffic is provided by me.

[...]

I promise you all that I was NOT aware of this problem and I will respond to this thread with some more details when I have it.

What about the fact that your domain seems to be riddled with content written in Korean? If this is sold to general traffic buyers it's just as worthless as a hidden i-f-r-a-m-e :2 cents:

example: http://xxstory.sexushost.com/xxxfree/wuxia/s0937.htm

completetosser 08-08-2003 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by rowan


What about the fact that your domain seems to be riddled with content written in Korean? If this is sold to general traffic buyers it's just as worthless as a hidden i-f-r-a-m-e :2 cents:

example: http://xxstory.sexushost.com/xxxfree/wuxia/s0937.htm

Here's some more quality urls


http://sexybooks.18read.com/main.htm
http://ylsite.sexushost.com/movie.html
http://ylsite.sexushost.com/photo.html
http://ylsite.sexushost.com/flash.html
http://xxstory.sexushost.com/xxxfree/wuxia/s0938.htm http://xxstory.sexushost.com/xxxfree/gudian/s0036.htm

Adult Site Traffic 08-08-2003 10:16 AM

Check your e-mail. :(

completetosser 08-08-2003 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Adult Site Traffic


Check your e-mail. :(


Just have done - thanks :) I think under the circumstances that was the right thing to do

Adult Site Traffic 08-08-2003 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by completetosser



Just have done - thanks :) I think under the circumstances that was the right thing to do

I do too.
Thanks, and sorry.

Pornkings 08-08-2003 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by rowan
Did a few successive reloads and watched the status bar...

chubby.com
tgpchicks.com
dutchteenamateurs.com
join4free.com
camfantasy.com
revshareamateurs.com
turboface.com
trannysurprise.com

All these sites are being loaded without ever being seen. :mad:

chubby.com is us.

we arn't buying 404 traffic so I bet they need to show hits to these sponsors to run fraud cards can someone post the link for chubby

Adult Site Traffic 08-08-2003 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pornkings


chubby.com is us.

we arn't buying 404 traffic so I bet they need to show hits to these sponsors to run fraud cards can someone post the link for chubby

One thing you're not understanding.

Rowan is an affiliate sending to a different program. His logs have nothing to do with this.

If the url's weren't in the i-f-rames and tagged /&AST it has nothing to do with this problem whatsoever.

So, until you know the facts, whether you're BigHugeSite.com or not, please control yourself. I'm taking damage here over something I have no knowledge of or control over. Posts like this and Rowan's logs aren't helping.

AST

sexushosting 08-08-2003 11:05 AM

Following on from the comments by Adult Site Traffic -

Before we constantly bash away at this, can you please be patient until I find out what the hell is going on before posting URL`s galore here.

I appreciate that this is a serious matter but just please bear with me.

Thank you.

rowan 08-08-2003 11:11 AM

AST, I'll repeat again... this thread has nothing to do with my buying-traffic.com affiliate account. For all intents and purposes we can consider that closed; I haven't sent any traffic to that for a couple of weeks. :)

The URLs with "?AST" appended that I have pasted into this thread were generated solely from loading http://xxstory.sexushost.com/xxxfree/wuxia/s0938.htm through a standard Windows browser. I simply used my local proxy logs (on my LAN - nothing to do with your site, or any traffic brokering) to see the exact URLs that were 302'd inside the invisible i-f-r-a-m-e.

Here's an example.

http://www.sexushost.com/cgi-bin/404
redirects to
http://adult-site-traffic.com/traffic/out.cgi?c=37
which redirects to
http://chubby.com/defaultD.php?id=80...&url=nopop&AST

If you load http://www.sexushost.com/cgi-bin/404 a few times then you'll be directed to various URLs, presumably all paying buyers... nothing unusual there. However, remember that the 404 handler is loaded within an invisible i-f-r-a-m-e, so the surfer never sees the final content... unless the HTML contains frame breaking code.

I wasn't trying to throw any blame at you in particular, since it's obvious that regardless of whether xratedhits is an affiliate or wholesale seller, he is stiffing you. I only posted those URLs to prove that this traffic *is* associated with AST. It's unfortunate that his garbage has filtered out to paying buyers...

rastakit 08-08-2003 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by rowan


That's where some of the i-f-r-a-m-e'd 404s were being redirected to, when I loaded the URL (from the very first post) repeatedly. Looks like xratedhits has some very shady methods of generating his (your) traffic.....

Rowan--are you saying those url's you list (who bought traffic) are not receiving it but just getting hit counts?

Adult Site Traffic 08-08-2003 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by rowan
AST, I'll repeat again... this thread has nothing to do with my buying-traffic.com affiliate account.
Ok then. That's fine. I believe you.

I have 2 questions.

How did you get there in the first place, to start this thread?

And, how come you didn't ICQ me like I asked? 121760557

rastakit 08-08-2003 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pornkings


chubby.com is us.

we arn't buying 404 traffic so I bet they need to show hits to these sponsors to run fraud cards can someone post the link for chubby

Roger,
We bought and sent this traffic to you...AST...you know my ICQ...we need to chat...

Edge

Adult Site Traffic 08-08-2003 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by rastakit


Roger,
We bought and sent this traffic to you...AST...you know my ICQ...we need to chat...

Edge

Hit me at your convienience Edge.

Fletch XXX 08-08-2003 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by lil2rich4u2


he is busy making a new GFY name and redesigning his site with new logo.


dont bother him now.

A crook like you should be familiar with changing screen names to hide your theft until you get busted more than once under different names eh Stashi?

hahah

rastakit 08-08-2003 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Adult Site Traffic


Hit me at your convienience Edge.

Just sent you a message...is your ICQ on?


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