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WiredGuy 09-08-2003 11:23 AM

The advice you can get from SEGuru in a single day is definitely more than the price of admission and worth going to.

WG

SykkBoy 09-08-2003 11:30 AM

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Originally posted by Troels
So I'm guessing I'll become 6 times better then, huh?

But what if 200 people hear the same golden SE tricks?
Isn't it better to become a certified search engine expert for $29.95 now and beat the stampede that will come after the show?

truth of the matter is, 200 may well attend and hear the information...but even armed with that information, I'd be willing to bet less than 10% will ever actually use it.....

OY 09-08-2003 11:31 AM

I wouldnt miss this one :2 cents:

:thumbsup

SEGuru 09-08-2003 11:36 AM

Sykk,

You may be right.

Doing SEO...and properly with a long term acceptable strategy...means a lot of work. It requires diligence and patience or a check book to pay someone else to do it for you.

A lot of people just don't realize how much work this is...on top of what you do now.

Again, ask anyone who has attended one of my day+ seminars...they will attest to its value. What you do with the information after you are empowered with it...is your business.

However, you will get an information overload in this seminar.
I challenge you to walk out of my seminar not knowing something new and practical that won't help increase your bottom line! Good luck!

SykkBoy 09-08-2003 11:39 AM

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Originally posted by SEGuru
Sykk,

You may be right.

Doing SEO...and properly with a long term acceptable strategy...means a lot of work. It requires diligence and patience or a check book to pay someone else to do it for you.

A lot of people just don't realize how much work this is...on top of what you do now.

Again, ask anyone who has attended one of my day+ seminars...they will attest to its value. What you do with the information after you are empowered with it...is your business.

However, you will get an information overload in this seminar.
I challenge you to walk out of my seminar not knowing something new and practical that won't help increase your bottom line! Good luck!

Actually, I just want to learn how to jack all your SE pages and point them to our Viagra site
hahahahaha ;-))))))

Muffin 09-08-2003 11:40 AM

Troels, (or however he spells it) was the person who thought that since SEGuru and I were posting from the same IP address and had the same sig. that we were one in the same! I still laugh thinking that if he was going to have an alter ego, he wouldn't name it Muffin.....But I digress.....

Anyway, I can't stand people making negative remarks that are unfounded.....My world has beautiful colors, obviously this person views only in brown.

That is my big contribution for the moment.....shhh.....

SEGuru 09-08-2003 11:47 AM

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Originally posted by SykkBoy2


Actually, I just want to learn how to jack all your SE pages and point them to our Viagra site
hahahahaha ;-))))))

I see how you are mang! Well you will indeed get a birdeye view baby!


Muffin...hunny...GOOD MORNING! Did you just tell him to kiss your: :Kissmy

Be a good girl hunny, the little troll doesn't know any better.

jaYMan 09-08-2003 11:48 AM

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i've heard him speak - he's good.
I agree 110% ;)

sweetums 09-08-2003 11:57 AM

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Originally posted by Muffin
Troels, (or however he spells it) was the person who thought that since SEGuru and I were posting from the same IP address and had the same sig. that we were one in the same! I still laugh thinking that if he was going to have an alter ego, he wouldn't name it Muffin.....But I digress.....

Anyway, I can't stand people making negative remarks that are unfounded.....My world has beautiful colors, obviously this person views only in brown.

That is my big contribution for the moment.....shhh.....

Muffin, my sweets....I see you're upset....heheheh :) Don't worry your head about it.....just means that there's one more seat open for someone who's smart enough to take advantage of the learning opportunity....

*hugs*

SEGuru 09-08-2003 11:59 AM

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Originally posted by sweetums


Muffin, my sweets....I see you're upset....heheheh :) Don't worry your head about it.....just means that there's one more seat open for someone who's smart enough to take advantage of the learning opportunity....

*hugs*

Touche'

cyberpunk 09-08-2003 12:05 PM

50 - Top ranked Google Pages!

SEGuru 09-08-2003 12:09 PM

Ohh yeah...we'll be discussing Google and the wiley methods to get ranked and quickly. May even have some special software I use to help do so...with me for demo purposes.

Troels 09-08-2003 12:50 PM

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Originally posted by sweetums


Muffin, my sweets....I see you're upset....heheheh :) Don't worry your head about it.....just means that there's one more seat open for someone who's smart enough to take advantage of the learning opportunity....

*hugs*

Yeah smart people need to participate at the cookie cutter SEO factory.

Ironhorse 09-08-2003 12:51 PM

Dude, take me with you wtf :Graucho

SEGuru 09-08-2003 01:36 PM

You truly have no clue.

There is nothing cookie cutter about my seminars! Speak in ignorance or bask in understanding...your call.

Either way, speaking out against it without knowing about it...

Troels 09-08-2003 01:39 PM

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Originally posted by SEGuru
You truly have no clue.

There is nothing cookie cutter about my seminars! Speak in ignorance or bask in understanding...your call.

Either way, speaking out against it without knowing about it...

So you willingly create a couple of hundred competitors for $200 a head?
Must be serious nuggets you throw out for that kind of money.

sweetums 09-08-2003 01:40 PM

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Originally posted by Troels


Yeah smart people need to participate at the cookie cutter SEO factory.


Troels....if you've ever had the opportunity to hear SEGuru speak or to speak to him personally, I'm not sure you'd be talking about a "cookie cutter SEO factory". Several people here, many who've made successful careers in the SEO game, have attested to the value of information which SEGuru disseminates at these kinds of events.

If you think that the one-day event is a waste of time and money....don't attend. But, don't sit here and insult the intelligence of the people who choose to take the opportunity to learn.

WiredGuy 09-08-2003 01:45 PM

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Originally posted by sweetums
Troels....if you've ever had the opportunity to hear SEGuru speak or to speak to him personally, I'm not sure you'd be talking about a "cookie cutter SEO factory". Several people here, many who've made successful careers in the SEO game, have attested to the value of information which SEGuru disseminates at these kinds of events.
I'll vouch for that, a 5 minute conversation with Daron and I felt like I've learnt a ton of info, and I do SEO for a living as well.

WG

SEGuru 09-08-2003 01:45 PM

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Originally posted by sweetums



Troels....if you've ever had the opportunity to hear SEGuru speak or to speak to him personally, I'm not sure you'd be talking about a "cookie cutter SEO factory". Several people here, many who've made successful careers in the SEO game, have attested to the value of information which SEGuru disseminates at these kinds of events.

If you think that the one-day event is a waste of time and money....don't attend. But, don't sit here and insult the intelligence of the people who choose to take the opportunity to learn.

Touche' #2

SEGuru 09-08-2003 02:00 PM

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Originally posted by WiredGuy


I'll vouch for that, a 5 minute conversation with Daron and I felt like I've learnt a ton of info, and I do SEO for a living as well.

WG

I guess it doesn't quite matter here...as this individual doesn't really count towards those that "get it!"

WiredGuy 09-08-2003 02:01 PM

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Originally posted by SEGuru
I guess it doesn't quite matter here...as this individual doesn't really count towards those that "get it!"
:)

Troels 09-08-2003 02:22 PM

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Originally posted by SEGuru


Touche' #2

Touché my ass.

If you're successfull then why the need to teach others?
Why the need to promote your services?

You're willingly giving away your nuggets for virtually nothing, or are those 'nuggets' in fact reasonable priced?

MagicksAntics 09-08-2003 02:26 PM

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Originally posted by Troels


So you willingly create a couple of hundred competitors for $200 a head?
Must be serious nuggets you throw out for that kind of money.

If you can't make that $200 back from what you would learn by going there, then you are as dumb as a post. Seriously.

SleazyDream 09-08-2003 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Troels


So you willingly create a couple of hundred competitors for $200 a head?
Must be serious nuggets you throw out for that kind of money.

fool

WiredGuy 09-08-2003 02:28 PM

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Originally posted by Troels
If you're successfull then why the need to teach others?
Why the need to promote your services?

You're willingly giving away your nuggets for virtually nothing, or are those 'nuggets' in fact reasonable priced?

Why not teach others? It's an enormous market and there's plenty of room for other SEO's to learn and enter the marketplace. And his price is virtually nothing for what you'll come out with.

WG

MagicksAntics 09-08-2003 02:31 PM

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Originally posted by Troels


Touché my ass.

If you're successfull then why the need to teach others?
Why the need to promote your services?

You're willingly giving away your nuggets for virtually nothing, or are those 'nuggets' in fact reasonable priced?

ohhhhh you're saying he is UNDERcharging!

Maybe he just knows how many "nuggets" are worth $200 ;) Who says you have to lay your brain on the table when you do a seminar. You lay enough out to make it worth their money. It's not -that- difficult to "get it".

MagicksAntics 09-08-2003 02:33 PM

fuck I'm not sure WHAT your saying actually...

Do think he is charging too much or too little?

PattyeCake* 09-08-2003 02:34 PM

Sounds Like a Winner Daron ;)

:thumbsup

nuclei 09-08-2003 02:43 PM

Ya gotta love trolls daron, they are everywhere and always posting shit :P

SEGuru 09-08-2003 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Troels


Touché my ass.

If you're successfull then why the need to teach others?
Why the need to promote your services?

You're willingly giving away your nuggets for virtually nothing, or are those 'nuggets' in fact reasonable priced?

You still don't get it...and I had this same conversation prior to the seminar where 40 people came to vancouver and I taught for 8 hours a day for 5 days. This is what I do for a living, for my clientele and teach to those seeking what I know.

You tell me if there is value in what we will be covering (taken from http://www.searchenginematrix.com/seminar.html):
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The Basics: [list=a][*]Discussion about web site hosting scenarios that affect search engine promotions [*]Defininig the differences in Spidering Engines and Search Directories[*]Understanding what ranking criteria is and its relation to what is known as an "Algorithm"[*]Link Popularity[*]Exploration of the Pay-PerClick model engines[*]Current Search Engine Agreements for index/database sharing[*]Importance of Research and the necessary resources to make staying informed easier[/list=a]



Resources, Keywords their Uses: [list=a][*]Choosing the most appropriate keywords [*]Locating an abundance of new keywords and phrases [*]Tools to create your own popular keyword database [*]Unorthodox sources of Keywords and phrases [*]Understanding the use of keywords in Spidering Engines [*]Understanding the use of keywords in Search Directories [*]Inappropriate use of keywords and phrases [*]Exploring the world of misspellings and the un-harvested traffic [*]Word Stemming [*]Stop Words [*]Keyword Prominence [*]Keyword Frequency [*]Keyword Density [*]Keyword Placement [*]Resource sites and their importance [*]Discussion lists of value [/list=a]

The 3 C?s: Code, Content, Competition [list=a][*]What is Cloaking? [*]Beware of the "Bait and Switch" [*]Frames and the engines [*]Alternative HTML (First taught in a Marketing Conference in Copenhagen) [*]Hiding content on your surfer pages [*]Metas and Myths [*]Robots.txt [*]Naming conventions for images and html documents [*]What is and how to you measure your domains link popularity [*]Reporting and trend tracking [*]Placement trend analysis [*]Assessing the competition [*]Cautions for Frontpage and WYSIWYG editor users [/list=a]

Search Directory Strategies [list=a][*]Expired domain names [*]Effective strategies for getting that Yahoo listing. [*]Understanding the REAL alphabet in regards to Yahoo! [*]Business Express! [*]The impacts of a Yahoo listing in today?s Search climate. [*]Looksmart and its benefits (mainstream) [*]The Open Directory Project ? DMOZ [*]Ethics of Search: Spam and Optimization Techniques addressed [/list=a]


Reverse Engineering Search Algorithms [list=a][*]Tools for Reverse Engineering Search Engine Algorithms [*]Reverse Engineering Techniques [*]Practical application of Reverse Engineering Techniques [*]What does Art & Science have to do with it? [*]Testing [*]Q & A and specific looks at some participant sites [/list=a]
What am I missing? Or should I say...what are you missing? We have a ton of ground to cover and we're going to do it in a day and when everyone is done...they will walk out of that room with a much better idea on how to plan their long term SEO strategies!

That should be obvious based upon the project outline!

Muffin 09-08-2003 02:54 PM

Troels, it is embarassing for you to come on this board, which is a community board and announce to everyone that you would never assist a fellow collegue. I THOUGHT WE ALREADY HAD THIS CONVERSATION!!!! WHAT YOU GIVE OUT IS WHAT YOU GET BACK!!!!

As for your tone to Sweetums, I take offense to that. She is one of the most intelligent, well respected people in this space. Consider yourself honored to be on a thread with her.

Magick....You go girl.....you rock!!!!
Leslie, are you coming? You better!!!!

Kimmykim 09-08-2003 02:57 PM

Troels, stop aggravating people. If you don't like it, then sit there and don't like it. You don't have to like it :)

SEGuru 09-08-2003 03:00 PM

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Originally posted by Kimmykim
Troels, stop aggravating people. If you don't like it, then sit there and don't like it. You don't have to like it :)
How's it goin gurl? I swear Kimmy...when Muffin walked by and said what she did...I ALMOST FELL OUTTA MY CHAIR!

How funny was that?!?!?

Muffin 09-08-2003 03:01 PM

You've done it now......pissed of KimmyKim!!!!! That is pretty hard to do!!!! Not a smart idea....but then you seem to be lacking in that department.

sweetums 09-08-2003 03:04 PM

Da Da Dum......Magick & KimmyKim & Leslie are here.....

Man, Troel better watch his back.....heheheh :)

sweetums 09-08-2003 03:13 PM

Oh yeah.....and I forgot to mention that Muffin has a thing for kneecaps.....

'Member Magick? Heheheh

SykkBoy 09-08-2003 03:16 PM

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Originally posted by sweetums
Oh yeah.....and I forgot to mention that Muffin has a thing for kneecaps.....

'Member Magick? Heheheh

yeah, but it's not even really worth fighting over...
so Troells won't be attending...who cares?

All that matters is that those who want to attend get their money's worth, that's ALL that matters....

Those who won't or don't go? Who gives a fuck what they think?

SEGuru 09-08-2003 03:17 PM

OMG the YaYa's are getting keyed up!

/me backs away carefully to watch as he sees pony tails a darty words come flying around!

hehehehe :Graucho

sherie 09-08-2003 03:17 PM

Ladies ladies. No need to let some little puke get you going. Someone who obviously can't afford the airfare let alone the cost of the seminar is not worth the response to any of his useless posts.:2 cents:

SEGuru 09-08-2003 03:18 PM

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Originally posted by SykkBoy2


yeah, but it's not even really worth fighting over...
so Troells won't be attending...who cares?

All that matters is that those who want to attend get their money's worth, that's ALL that matters....

Those who won't or don't go? Who gives a fuck what they think?

Does this mean I get a reach around?


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