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D-Money 09-10-2003 12:13 PM

fiddy content blowout your asses

MiLo 09-10-2003 12:18 PM

Can i hijack this thread too? :winkwink:

J$tyle$ 09-10-2003 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lil2rich4u2
shit

these content spams made me hot to buy some, then i couldnt get in because of the goofy register shit.

oh well, maybe next time

ICQ me and I'll get you get you whatever U's & P's you need ... just tell me which offer you're interested in.

BTW - no need to contact me for access to Charly's site

I think he cancelled mine

LOL

:winkwink:

J$tyle$ 09-10-2003 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MiLo TurboNegro
Can i hijack this thread too? :winkwink:
In the immortal words of D$'s favorite all time group from the Player's Ball ...

Do whatchya like!

:winkwink:

J$tyle$ 09-10-2003 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by toodamnfli
nice dealllllllllls
Do you buy content?

Traffic?

Forgive me for my ignorance but maybe we should talk already :winkwink:

TDF 09-10-2003 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by J$tyle$


Do you buy content?

Traffic?

Forgive me for my ignorance but maybe we should talk already :winkwink:



i suck dick for traffic, excuse me while I wipe my mouth

TheJimmy 09-10-2003 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MiLo TurboNegro
Can i hijack this thread too? :winkwink:

is it time for the dancing gifs yet?


<img src="http://monicalewinski.blewme.com/dancing_frog.gif">

the indigo 09-10-2003 11:41 PM

Fuck off & Fuck you.

We paid 8k the less a few months ago. That's just wrong. :(

J$tyle$ 09-10-2003 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by the indigo
Fuck off & Fuck you.

We paid 8k the less a few months ago. That's just wrong. :(

What did you pay 8k the less for?

Which content package?

the indigo 09-11-2003 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by J$tyle$


What did you pay 8k the less for?

Which content package?

475 sets from Markham @ 8k

vs 535 sets for 1.5k

Same shit happened with a few others... that turns me crazy to blow cash for quality content and see it's value drop down like a fucking empty bottle. :321GFY

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 09-11-2003 12:29 AM

Wut a world.

Paul Markham 09-11-2003 12:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by the indigo


475 sets from Markham @ 8k

vs 535 sets for 1.5k

Same shit happened with a few others... that turns me crazy to blow cash for quality content and see it's value drop down like a fucking empty bottle. :321GFY

When did you spend $8K for 475 sets? The average price on Bargain Basement is $10 so how did you spend $8K there?

And I do not rmember a sale for $8K on www.paulmarkham.com recently. So give me your real name so I can check it or provide proof.

Paul Markham 09-11-2003 12:51 AM

I think I may have found him, if this is him.

JB ordered 475 sets on 31st October 2002 from www.paulmarkham.com our premium site. He also got a very nice discount.

Some of those sets have since been moved over to Bargain Basement and discounted.

So you had them for a whole year to use them and I have to keep them at the price you bought them at for ever?

FocusAdult 09-11-2003 02:47 AM

So basically Charly, you justify doing exactly what you condemned the content providers who have done blowouts over the past four months, with the same exact argument they used to kick off their deals?

Cool!

Always love to stir the pot...

Justin
Focus Adult
www.focusadult.com
ICQ 3343102

BradShaw 09-11-2003 08:36 AM

Hey, buy my content!

J$tyle$ 09-11-2003 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by FocusAdult
So basically Charly, you justify doing exactly what you condemned the content providers who have done blowouts over the past four months, with the same exact argument they used to kick off their deals?

Cool!

Always love to stir the pot...

Fuckin' A!!!!

But his argument has been that "Bargain Basemant" has been up for a LONG time :winkwink:

... WE KNOW that he's just following my trend though ...

LOL

J$tyle$ 09-11-2003 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradShaw
Hey, buy my content!
Hey ... buy Brad's content FROM ME!

:winkwink:

LOL

Far-L 09-11-2003 10:46 AM

HOLD ON ONE CONTENT PICKING MINUTE HERE!!!

Why our stuff is da bestest deal on da block yo

Talking da shizzy nizz fashizzlela bomb ass wicked old school new school east coast west coast mac daddy bumbalicious...

N' we doan hafta do dem blowouts becuz we already is so damn cheap!!!

peace

out

Groove 09-11-2003 10:50 AM

See sig :Graucho

J$tyle$ 09-11-2003 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Far-L
HOLD ON ONE CONTENT PICKING MINUTE HERE!!!

Why our stuff is da bestest deal on da block yo

Talking da shizzy nizz fashizzlela bomb ass wicked old school new school east coast west coast mac daddy bumbalicious...

N' we doan hafta do dem blowouts becuz we already is so damn cheap!!!

peace

out

LOL

AhKay!

Far-L ... we should talk, buddy!

Hit me on ICQ or shoot me an email sales AT contentblowout DOT com

:)

J$tyle$ 09-11-2003 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by the indigo


<SNIP>

that turns me crazy to blow cash for quality content and see it's value drop down like a fucking empty bottle. :321GFY

Don't be mad at him or anyone else ... unless you buy exclusive shit - this is what happens!

I can point you in the right direction if that's what you're looking for, but you'd be paying way more than 8k for that many sets

:winkwink:

Also, there's other content we can discuss that's being offered on a more limited basis.

If you're interested send me an ICQ!

Aly-Python 09-11-2003 03:46 PM

Wow... Charly darling, I think your thread has back-fired a little.

Next time, you might want to pick on someone your own size...:winkwink:

:1orglaugh

Anthony_A 09-11-2003 03:54 PM

Don't mind me, I have no business posting here.

I'm just following Aly around.

Aly-Python 09-11-2003 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Anthony_A
Don't mind me, I have no business posting here.

I'm just following Aly around.

Anthony, sweetheart, you know how much trouble you get into when you do this... Didn't you learn the last time?!

Oh, okay then... follow me... I'm off to tease the walrus again. Now... where HAS it gone?! :smokin

J$tyle$ 09-11-2003 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Aly-Python
Wow... Charly darling, I think your thread has back-fired a little.

(----- SNIP -----)


Nah, it looks like it's working fine!

I'm sure he's making a TON of $$$ from this!

Wooo Hooo!!!!!!!!!!!!

:thumbsup

the indigo 09-11-2003 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by J$tyle$


Don't be mad at him or anyone else ... unless you buy exclusive shit - this is what happens!

I can point you in the right direction if that's what you're looking for, but you'd be paying way more than 8k for that many sets

:winkwink:

Also, there's other content we can discuss that's being offered on a more limited basis.

If you're interested send me an ICQ!


What's the point in offering exclusive photo content now? You can buy 100x more content from all the good content providers for less than a penny.

The whole thing is just plain wrong. There's no other word. This industry is fucked up. (But we already know that anyway)

Don't come crying in 2 years because selling content will be worthless if you shoot your models in USA. No one will ever want to buy no-exclusive content again at $30-$50 per set from Markham, Cloud9, Sobe, etc. You will have to sell the set 100x before making a dime. People who don't buy licences won't buy more if the set is $5, trust me. Your real clients were people that you just insulted by selling everything @ 90-95% off.

This is not good for the industry and not good for YOU, the content providers. Short term business IS crap.

Imagine if Ferrari was selling their $300k car for $30k next month.
It would be the end of Ferrari, the brand everyone respected and admired. Everything has a value, and you must respect the people who paid the right price.

Anyway, if you don't at least understand my point, I'm wasting my time. :)

J$tyle$ 09-11-2003 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by the indigo
What's the point in offering exclusive photo content now? You can buy 100x more content from all the good content providers for less than a penny.
Because there's still a market for it ... which means $$$ TO BE MADE for producers that offer it and it DOES fulfill a need that certain webmasters have! :)

First of all, MANY webmasters ONLY buy or shoot (themselves)exclusive sets and pay TOP DOLLAR for it ... AND there are still tons of sites and content providers that OFFER exclusive, semi exclusive, and limited quantity sets IF that's what certain webmasters are looking for!

Second, your last statement there sounds like overexagerated bullshit ... who are "ALL THE GOOD CONTENT PROVDERS" selling GOOD QUALITY content for less than a penny?!?!?!

Quote:


The whole thing is just plain wrong. There's no other word. This industry is fucked up. (But we already know that anyway)

I disagree ... there's a HUGE opportunity for webmasters to ADD GREAT QUALITY CONTENT to there existing members areas for great prices ... I don't think that's wrong. I think it's a service to webmasters and HUGE VALUE for their $$$ spent.

This industry is changing everyday. I've made more $$$ in the past 4 months from my traffic business and ContentBlowout.com than I did in the preceding 6 months, so MY industry is NOT fucked up! LOL

EVERYONE needs to adjust and change with the times or be left behind!

Don't whine about it ... TAKE ACTION AND BUY EXCLUSIVE CONTENT OR SHOOT YOUR OWN!

Quote:


Don't come crying in 2 years because selling content will be worthless if you shoot your models in USA. No one will ever want to buy no-exclusive content again at $30-$50 per set from Markham, Cloud9, Sobe, etc. You will have to sell the set 100x before making a dime. People who don't buy licences won't buy more if the set is $5, trust me. Your real clients were people that you just insulted by selling everything @ 90-95% off.

This is not good for the industry and not good for YOU, the content providers. Short term business IS crap.

Imagine if Ferrari was selling their $300k car for $30k next month.
It would be the end of Ferrari, the brand everyone respected and admired. Everything has a value, and you must respect the people who paid the right price.



I understand where you're coming from, believe me I do ... I just disagree with your view.

The guys that want to buy BRAND NEW SETS will pay a higher price because that's what it costs AND they WANT the BRAND NEW CONTENT! It's that simple!

Can you REALLY fault a content provider for lowering his prices and putting together bulk deals on OLDER content that is NO LONGER SELLING ON HIS SITE?

Why the fuck shouldn't the content producer further monetize the content that's just laying around "figuratively" collecting dust? He'd be stupid not to ... AND he's leaving money on the table by NOT selling it!

The Ferrari example was a poor example. There are HARD costs that go into both content production and car manufacturing. Once a photo shoot is done it CAN BE sold over and over again by the same content producer.

Ferrari can only sell each automobile once ... BAD COMPARISON!

Quote:


Anyway, if you don't at least understand my point, I'm wasting my time. :)

I get what you're saying, but thing is - you're ONLY thinking about yourself and the 8k you spent ... and YOU'RE PISSED!

THAT I UNDERSTAND!

:winkwink:

BradShaw 09-11-2003 08:43 PM

Still content market died a year ago or so ago for everyone. I recall doing $100k a month, then hard pressed to do $10k. Not even worth being in biz for $10k. I feel for those who sole income is still content. If mine was, I would be trading in my ferrari for a pinto.

This also says alot of about the state of the business, important to get as much $ out of it now as you can.

Far-L 09-11-2003 09:37 PM

J$tyles: You have mail...

BradShaw: Wise words... Adapt or face extinction as Darwin always said...

I have seen so many come and go. When companies start dropping their drawers on price then soon enough the margins are non existent and their businesses go under.

But... here are words you can take to the bank...

Our award winning content that has topped sales and rental charts and constantly drawn worldwide mainstream media attention has been making our distributors serious cash for years. Homegrown Video has made many people huge cash, from the peep booths, to the chain video rentals, to Playboy and Spice channel, and of course on the internet.

We keep the customers happy and we sell our stuff at a GOOD price, a FAIR price, so everyone makes GREAT MONEY. We protect our distributors and have taken their worry and hassle out of dealing with content.

As a result... We don't measure our retention in months, or even years; we measure it in decades!

Homegrown Video = Money...

J$tyle$ 09-11-2003 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradShaw
Still content market died a year ago or so ago for everyone. I recall doing $100k a month, then hard pressed to do $10k. Not even worth being in biz for $10k. I feel for those who sole income is still content. If mine was, I would be trading in my ferrari for a pinto.

This also says alot of about the state of the business, important to get as much $ out of it now as you can.

When you're right you're right ... AND YOU'RE RIGHT!!!

The last statement most of all!

:2 cents:

J$tyle$ 09-11-2003 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Far-L
J$tyles: You have mail...

BradShaw: Wise words... Adapt or face extinction as Darwin always said...

I have seen so many come and go. When companies start dropping their drawers on price then soon enough the margins are non existent and their businesses go under.

But... here are words you can take to the bank...

Our award winning content that has topped sales and rental charts and constantly drawn worldwide mainstream media attention has been making our distributors serious cash for years. Homegrown Video has made many people huge cash, from the peep booths, to the chain video rentals, to Playboy and Spice channel, and of course on the internet.

We keep the customers happy and we sell our stuff at a GOOD price, a FAIR price, so everyone makes GREAT MONEY. We protect our distributors and have taken their worry and hassle out of dealing with content.

As a result... We don't measure our retention in months, or even years; we measure it in decades!

Homegrown Video = Money...

Far -L -

Got your email .... I'll call you tomorrow :o)

... and Homegrown Video = Money for sure!!!

:thumbsup

SoBeGirl Video 09-11-2003 10:23 PM

This has turned into an interesting topic after. Brad is never afriad to speak the truth. But the content business has not really died. It has turned into Walmart. It was sacs 5th avenue. Now it is Walmart. Still good quality, service and best of all great price. Sacs, well that is another story.

http://www.fillercontent.com

:thumbsup

Indeed 09-11-2003 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SoBeGirl Video
This has turned into an interesting topic after. Brad is never afriad to speak the truth. But the content business has not really died. It has turned into Walmart. It was sacs 5th avenue. Now it is Walmart. Still good quality, service and best of all great price. Sacs, well that is another story.

http://www.fillercontent.com

:thumbsup

at least walmart can afford a design

J$tyle$ 09-11-2003 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SoBeGirl Video
This has turned into an interesting topic after. Brad is never afriad to speak the truth. But the content business has not really died. It has turned into Walmart. It was sacs 5th avenue. Now it is Walmart. Still good quality, service and best of all great price. Sacs, well that is another story.

http://www.fillercontent.com

:thumbsup

Funny ... sounds like something someone else said ...

I'm not bagging on you, Erik - you and me are cool as always ... just feels like deja vu :winkwink:

Here's a brief piece from AVN Magazine's Florida show issue

Jonathan Silverstein is Mr. Opportunity! - J$tyles in His Own Words >> -Tom Hymes

The Wal-Mart Model (2003)

"There's a huge opportunity in the content business right now. During and after the blowout sale, people contacted me to make deals with other companies to blow out their content as well. In response, I've registered and am launching ContentBlowout.com, positioning myself to be the go to guy for all your content needs. I'm going to have all these special offers for great content, whether it's slick magazine quality porn star kind of content or amateur content, all in bulk. Whatever niche it is, you'll be able to get a tremendous amount of it for a very reasonable price. It's great, for instance, for the huge programs that want to add a massive amount of content to the massive amount they already have.

"Webmasters can now go out and buy $40 and $60 sets and spend $1,000 a month on content or they can come to ContentBlowout.com and every month have between 5 and 6 deals for huge blocks of content at extremely reduced prices, and get seriously high-quality images and videos for pennies on the dollar. On the other side, the opportunity is there for the content providers to sell a lot of packages and generate a nice amount of cash flow for themselves by offering the content in this manner. That doesn't mean these content companies that are going out of business, but if there are some content providers out there that are hurting and don't see the cash flow coming in like they used to, this is something that they might consider.

"Nobody has ever sold content at the rate I'm selling this content. I'm not looking to squeeze the content providers. I'm looking to make them a lot of money, and more importantly, give Webmasters a tremendous value for their dollar. Yes, I've had some other content providers complaining that we were ruining the business, and no one would buy content with these prices so low, and they were going to go out of business and all of this stuff, and I started thinking, 'Wow, there's a real opportunity here. It's time for Wal-Mart to come to town!"

:)


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