ok that's AMP thread,but i'll disagree. Mainstream = lots of $$ if done properly. To get a figure, overture's average pay per click cost the last monthes was 0.40cents. Mainstream co. can afford on average about 3 times more to spend. More than few online industries do figures larger than porn. Additionally mainstream is expanding day after day. Can you say the same for porn? I'm afraid not.

myself?

hmmm..... well, since this is kind of a unique critique, I'm going to give two perspectives, being that I know both sides.

1: Online.

I am VERY misunderstood. Secretive, abusive, fair, honest, happy-go-lucky (sometimes), cranky (sometimes),..... hmmm..... this sucks you know.

I tend to be more extroverted than I really am.... because in this medium, I can. In real life, I'm not. Most everything I do is done in the spirit of enticing conversation. Whether it's something good, bad, bullshit, or whatever.... whether it's about me, or in reply to someone else, or even a flame thread. That doesn;t mean it's all pure fabrication. Most things I post are BASED on real life things or real life reactions.... some are actual reactions. I treat my online persona as I would if I had gone into the broadcasting industry. I went to college for broadcasting, but radio was not where I ultimately wanted to go.... everything about the field is my passion, except the business/corporate side of it. So I apply everything I learned to what I do now. When you read an "Amputate Your Head" post, you're reading a radio show. And just like a radio show, some of it is based on real life, and some of it is utter nonsense..... if you can't tell the difference, then I'm doing it right.

2. Real World.

I am nothing like what you see here. Yes, the pictures are me. Yes, the pics of my house are mine. But who I am, is not "Amputate Your Head". I'm not a drunk. I don't seek attention. I don't have an attitude with the whole world. I'm not insane or on medication. I'm not a psycho. I don't party all night long. The county does not come and put me in a straitjacket every night so I won't hurt myself. I'm very shy, I don't talk much at all, and I leave the online half behind when I get up from the screen. I have a life. I go shopping at Home Depot like everyone else. I painted my bathroom last weekend. I am able to separate "show" from real world.

Summary: I'm misunderstood in both worlds. Those who know me personally, know what I mean. Those that don't.....

enjoy the show. :)

The Truth Hurts

:Graucho

did some custom promos for you once.... seemed like a good guy. Other than that, I haaven't got much to base an opinion on. If I was freelance, I'd do business with you again any day. You disappeared from GFY for quite a while, but recently, you seem to speak your mind, and maintain a level head about it....


that's about all I really know.

Amp, how about Nina?

Advertising/marketing, as per the demand displayed of bids on Overture is hardly a relative comparison between both industries. Yes, 'hosting' in example, brings in an average of $1.00-$3.00 per click via Google adsense as a publisher. Nice figure right? Well, how many are actually targeted? How many prospective customers will click? Convert? We're talking about a select, niche group. A wealthy group of business men for the most part. Purchasing hosting for a website. How many people are webmasters/own businesses looking for hosting? We're talking about segregating the majority of people here. Contrary to what you would think, not many are webmasters. Now, what is the prerequisite for a porn purchaser? None. Any female, male, or pirate (hey lets not discriminate) can be interested and eligible to purchase porn. Thus with this demand, and such competitive saturation, the bids must reflect accordingly. If we had $3.00 bids keyword terms such as "sex", advertisers would flush out months of marketing revenue in a single day!

Fletch....


you know, I thought I had Fletch all figured out a while ago.... but he's one of those guys that can't BE figured out. He reminds me a lot of a friend of mine from '84..... good guy, doesn't try to hurt anyone, just looking to get through life in the funnest way possible.

I think Fletch could do so much more if he'd lay off the drugs, but then he would cease to be "Fletch".... I've stopped judging him. Fletch is, what Fletch wants to be. Moody, happy, gone, or posting like a whore..... Fletch just is what he is. And I gotta respect that. I've pushed him to some edges, and he remains the same. Fletch is his own man. And that's commendable.

PUCKER UP :1orglaugh

nice thread there Amp...

I used to be a mainstreamer. It's a whole different game. Most mainstreamers don't even see adult. They're oblivious to it. There's big money in mainstream..... it's just a lot harder to nail down. CEO's can be a major pain in the ass. Mainstream & Adult are two completely different ballgames. What works in mainstream rarely translates to adult. Sure, the principles are the same, but very few are in tune enough to maintain principles and make the adjustment to their tactics. Only those completely in touch with Strategy & Tactics are able to make such a crossing. Many simply do not have that foundation. Skill? Sure.... skill is a factor.... but if you don;t have the basics down, skill means jack.

To answer your question though, I think most mainstreamers simply don't even acknowledge the adult world.

fiddy

How about:


Drew Kole


Serge


Mike AI



and


Kmanrox

Closet homosexual.

j/k (or am I right?)

Definately some issues going on. What they are exactly, I'm not concrete on yet. Keep in mind, this is all purely speculation, as are all my other posts in here.... but I htink you are more than confident in your ability. Obviously. You wouldn't have done the things you've done if you weren't. Yet, you seem to have some self confidence issues or something despite all that. Why? I have no idea. Maybe it's an age thing....

Definately reliable. Definately productive. Definately skilled. Certainly honest. Demonstratively intelligent.

I think, all in all, your youth and lack of expansive worldly experience is holding you down. You seem frustrated to me..... all the time. Even when you're being helpful. You're rarely "cheery". I think you need to get out, get away, and do something completely different for about 6 months to get some perspective. You are obviously on the high rail to as much success as you allow yourself to have. But getting to the point to TAKE it is what's keeping you down.

You got the stuff. Why you're not exploiting the hell out of it, I may never know.

nice "reviews" so far :thumbsup

quiet

Nina....

well, I met her once briefly last January for all of about 30 seconds while I was so damn drunk I didn;t know my own name....


but.... based on that and what I've seen of her here on the board...


Very business oriented. In fact, STRICTLY business oriented. Nina is all about the bottomline and nothing else. Not very forgiving, and does not play the game well at all. Definately very intelligent, but also VERY ruthless. Nina strikes me as someone that does not let any thing or any one stand in the way of where she's going. Period. That can be a good thing, but I feel she's taken it to extremes. And extremes are not always good. A tree survives by being flexible, not rigid. She is probably an extremely good ally, as long as you don't interfere with her plans. And I think she is probably equally as brutal if you cross her.


But then, like I said.... I don't really know her. This is just my opinion. I crossed her on this board, partly in fun, partly based on a previous argument with another board member.... when I met her for those 30 seconds, I felt nothing but ice.

First impressions last a lifetime.

Hope im not too late..

Lil2rich?

Not bad.. with the exception of the homosexual part....
Have you been talking to my wife?

:glugglug

The real question is, could you have spotted all this, if you didn't know who I am, we hadn't chatted, and based it solely on this board personality?

i know it's not accurate measurement, but trust me the figures are nothing close. I've often some of the top spots for sex,porn,xxx etc and I'm familiar with the volume, cost and profit margins.....

just in quick

flowers 897468 searches (Advertiser's Max Bid: $3.25) VS
hardcore sex 373156 searches (Advertiser's Max Bid: $0.12)

grants 106145 searches (Advertiser's Max Bid: $0.41) VS
teen sex 156094 searches (Advertiser's Max Bid: $0.13)


i can give you 1000s examples where the mainstream does higher volumes, in extremely much higher CPC and i assume profit margins. Do not underestimate mainstream. It's a whole world. Porn is just an island of it :-)

Wow. An actually useful post in this thread. Kudos, soul rebel. Mainstream is definitely huge.

DrewKole:


hmmm..... I wanna be fair here and give an honest critique.... lemme think for a sec whilst I pour some more Captain.


okay..... Drew.

I feel Drew is struggling internally to gain some recognition. He won't let it show too much for fear of being labeled "weak", but it's there if you look for it. Drew wants to be important. He is the kind of person that will take the path of least resistance to get there. That includes using his family if need be. Drew is waiting for the day he can announce, "Yeah fuckers, I'm the man and I told you so a long time ago!"

Unfortunately, this will probably never happen for him. Reasons being,....

1. no one ever got ahead using other people in poor fashion. (using other people, yes.... in poor fashion, no.) i.e. Hungryman.

2. Drew wants it handed to him. He wants everyone to think he's worked for it, even though he hasn't.

3. Drew is blind. He is unable to see beyond what is directly in front of him. This is his foremost limitation.

4. The desire to "be important". It's a killer. Focus is concentrated on the wrong goal, and all is lost.

Summary: Drew is destined to remain mediocre and eventually fade away unremembered. He will argue differently, because he has to. His mind won't allow anything else.


Serge:

I met Serge briefly in Vegas.... honestly, I don;t think Serge gives a damn about anything. Not money, not where the next beer is coming from, not anything. Serge lives in the moment. Serge is truly free. And congrats to him. That's what we all strive for. Serge is living it.


Mike AI:

Don't know anything about him. Isn't he one of Serge's board whores over at Oprano?


Kmanrox:


It takes some serious balls to move to the other side of the planet to a third world country. I did it, and I'm still in the US. Me and Kman have our differences, most of which are nothing but board bs... and they are insignifigant. Kman is his own man. He doesn't take shit from anyone for any reason. I raise my penis to him in honor.

quiet.....


you know, I'm a pretty damn good judge of character. I can pin down almost everyone in short order. I observe people. Both in real life, and on the Net. And I like to think I'm not far from the mark. I haven't seen anyone comlaining too much so far here anyway.

I think quiet, while an enigma to a lot of people, is really not all that complicated. He's obviously a very smart businessman. He's working his angles and always looking ahead. He is a succeeder. If something goes down, he'll find a way around it, or find a way to maintain in another avenue.

On a personal level, I think quiet is not much unlike myself. Probably reserved, quiet, thoughtful, considerate, and outgoing to a degree..... meaning, not necessarily a universal party animal, but someone that likes to have fun with people he knows. I think he is more forgiving than most, and smart enough to be able to distinguish stupidity from reality.

quiet is an achiever. He's someone that will be until he decides he doesn't want to be. quiet is in control of his own life. Lots of people can't say that. Though not close, I consider quiet a friend. We think on similar levels. I don't class myself in quiet's category, but I often feel there is a mutual understanding.... more on the personal than the business.

lil2rich4u2?

Well, if he's not spacedog (Jody), he's a damn fine replacement. This is a person who is so obviously lost in his own confusion, there is no hope of ever escaping. Recently, I've noticed he's been playing it down in the extreme. Which can only mean, something must have clicked upstairs and he is now actively trying to not look the fool. Will he overcome his past establishment? Who knows.... given time, I suppose anything is possible. If he IS spacedog, he's done a fine job of hiding it. If he's not, he's done a fine job of duplicating the worst possible role model.

Summary: I think he is probably honest in his efforts to establish himself and earn a living. But he has, up until his reinstatement to GFY, not done a very good job of it. He seems to be on the right path now, and that only makes me wonder who he's been talking to, and why they are investing time in him. In all, while I don;t know his behind the scenes dealings, I think he's got a long way to go in repairing his rep. Personally, I'd shitcan the lil2rich4u2 nick and start fresh.

had I not known anything about you, I wouldn't have critiqued you. This thread isn't about handing out opportunistic slams.... which would be all so convenient right now....

I'm trying to give honest reviews of anyone presented. So far, even against temptation, I feel I've given an honest critique of every name presented. That doesn't mean they are 100% accurate.... these are merely my interpretations of these people, based on meeting them in person, their online persona's, or a combination of the two.


I can slam people 24/7... rarely do I give honest feedback. Just trying to keep it real here tonight.

wow... so I'm caught up finally.... no more?

Me? :)

Whats your take on you?.......

How about reading page 1 before posting.

:Graucho

what about me punk? :Graucho

And me? :glugglug

Lady M....

well, I can't say I know you very well.... but what I do know is you take your values to heart. Where a lot of people would just let things slide (including myself), you don't. You're very decisive on what you feel is right and wrong and you're not afraid to let it be known. Even if it goes against popular opinion. You also strike me as very honest and hardworking. Willing to do whatever it takes to get the job done. A rare quality these days it seems.

Personally, I can't say much, because I simply don't know you. Am looking forward to meeting you though and building on the relationship we've begun. You're good people, and I hope to know you for a long time.

already asked, already answered.

AMP you have given your all on this, good insights. Now I think you need to get some sleep? Or do you ever sleep?

[Labret]?

Soul Rebel....


definately got your tent spikes in the biz. Two years ago, I'd have predicted you to disappear unmentioned...... you've proved that wrong for certain. I don't really have much knowledge as to your actual business dealings, but I've seen a few things here and there and I've never seen one bad thing with your name on it. I don't kow for sure, but my guess is you've got roots much deeper in the biz than anyone really knows.

You got my respect.


And if you spread that around, I'll fucking kill you punk.

nuttin' but love Soul.

for some reason I keep thinking I should know you by another name.... ?

as for "punkworld"..... I really can't say anything objectively. Not enough to go on yet.

I never sleep.

:glugglug

it's mutual :)

[Labret].....



well, ya know.... to be truthful, and I'm sure no matter what I say, he'd probably disagree with me.... I think [Labret] just really loved the game. (The "Game" being GFY of course).....

I've talked with [Labret] in the past, off the board,.... never met him in person.... but off the board, he really is just like anyone else. (oh how he'd love to be able to say something to that!)

[Labret] was into the show.... same as me. Not saying he is the same as me, but board persona and approach was very similar. Mostly done out of the pure fun of it. [Labret] is a very normal and humble guy. Might I go so far as to say, "pussycat"? Okay.... well, I'll retract that to spare some mystique.

[Labret] is also the kind of guy that will not come back under another nick begging to be unbanned. Nor would I. He knows this is the stuff legends are made of. He will never reduce himself to a lil2rich4u2 or a p!Mpdog.


He's good people. If I ever get the chance to meet him in person, I'll be buying him beers.

Maarten Sh$$$$$

:1orglaugh