What I do know is this...the Government acts...and always has...in what it perceives to be in its own best interest...as it should. If others have a problem with this...so be it...if there are unfornunate consequences...as is sometimes the case...so be it.

Not all of the multiple polls were taken just inside Baghdad...and all showed similar results.

theKing:

King.. I have been very accomodating about US stuff for a long while now... But it ain't there - something is very noticeably missing.

There is a very BIG difference between US opinion and that of the rest of the world. In fact, almost a total lack of communication or understanding accompanied by a "moral high ground" that is plastered with "patriotism" and bullshit. No other country, with the exception of "extreme" states - yea, the one's the US would "designate" terrorist states - disseminate this bullshit.

Example.. simple one! There is an possible trade agreement, CAFTA, due for signing in Decemeber. Along comes a US total mouth visiting other countries and makes statements like "It's a priviledge to trade with the US" and "we are writing the rules of this agreement" Reaction?? Fuck off back to the US. Why? Because of the arrogance and the previous trade agreements the US has made to the great cost of other nations. He effectively fucked CAFTA by his stupid and ignornant mouth.

Now other countries ain't into giving up cheap goods for the benefit of those in pampered land while their people starve.

You ain't better than anyone on this planet, but think otherwise - The world does not owe you a living - You have nada comprehension of the real world outside Arkansas or wherever and are taught (not that ya can even agree on your own history in schools) that "others" are demons and out to get - totally paranoid!!

I give up... but peace to ya!!

theKing:

I suppose that is a statement similar to the one I mentioned about CAFTA...

My reaction is much the same - fuck off and stay in the US and don't venture outside - ya ain't welcome.

they built 1200 schools wihtin 3 months give or take a month.

QUOTE]Originally posted by sperbonzo
Saddam and his henchmen spent billions on their palaces, casinos, hotels, and whorehouses and left the rest of the country to literally rust and rot away, [/QUOTE]


sort of like what bush and his pals are doing to the good ole u.s.a:321GFY

Haha, sounds like he was talking about California. When can I expect an invasion (I live in Cali)?

:1orglaugh

I never understood people who place such faith in polls. Polls are the worst measure of public sentiment available.

Where did they conduct this "poll"? In the bread line? Was it performed at a Mosque?

Polls. utterly useless. On both sides of the fence. I would trust a poll performed under the watchful eye of the administration as I would a poll done by Al Jazeera.

What is a good measure of public sentiment to me? The rise of suicides among active duty, the killing of American soldiers on a nearly daily basis. wait wait, save it, I can hear it already... those are foreign fighters killing our children. I know, the "polls" say Iraqis love us.

Send me to Iraq to conduct a poll, I bet I could find a sample that declared a burning hatred of the United States 98% of the time.

Bitch Shut The fuck up, stop yapping ur trap if you dont know what u are saying....fucking jealous of the states....ignorant bitch:321GFY :boid :thefinger

Feline:


Jealous??? What.. you in some fantasy land or just plain stupid?? :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Notice ya seem to be incapable of addressing the post you elected to resond to... In case you missed it.. here it is again.. you got an answer? If not just quietly go :321GFY

I have always stated that polls can be...and often are...manipulated...based upon the agenda of the polling org. It is important to know what specific questions were asked. Gallup...I believe...is one of the most reputable polling orgs and post all of the questions asked...the sample taken and the margin of error.

Thank you! It's good to hear that those poor people can finally stop living in fear and start to learn and grow. I know one day soon their children will be able to ride bikes in the streets and play with other children.


LOL.

Oh God, the ignorance. Who told you they couldn't ride bikes and play with other children? The only time Saddam killed them was when they went against his politics. You people are so vulnerable.

:thumbsup

It's painful. Sad...

BTW, ask your friend if he found any WMD ??? You know, those things that Powell said at the UN that he knew where they were... and that needed to be taken care of right now...


Now that was funny. I think it's pretty interesting how the Bush supporters completely forgot about the REAL reasons he gave to start this war in the first place.

War is not like a splinter in your toe, or taking it up the ass for the first time. War is War. Cot Darnit! War is terror. Just imagine you sitting in your house and every seconds you hear gun fire, not knowing when that shit is going to hit you.

So, if none of the reasons he gave turned out to be true, then why the HELL are some of you still supporting this idiot?

Letters from Iraq: LOL :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/i...ers-usat_x.htm

It is so pathetic the administration would stoop to the level of form mails to newspapers. Like they really thought nobody would catch it?

anti-bush:

It called patriotism, ignorance and the same mentality that supported Hitler. They are often not dumb, but bound up in this cloak of righteousness and "superiority", come from West Virginia and ain't got one clue as to what may have happened in the next state - nevermind a foreign (that means being one of "them") country..

Unfortunately there is a price for ignorance and "patriotism" - a deadly combination.

Bitch Shut The fuck up, stop yapping ur trap if you dont know what u are saying....fucking jealous of the states....ignorant bitch

In other words, I don't know what I'm talking about. I know nothing about life.
All I know is what I hear from Bill O'Reily and his ignorant propoganda spewing team.

And not even properly done!


In any civilized country ( other than the US ), people would be in the streets asking for the gov to resign.

Good golly Webby! Why did you give up your 4 star general position and then your government position?? You obviously have been well traveled here lately and sat in on meetings all over the World! Must be nice to have such options open! Yet you opt to run your yap on a webmaster board about things that you read and wouldn't know for sure about if it ran upside your head.

Adorno:

Some actually think this shit is true... even worse!!!

Yea.. add that bullshit onto the daily sessions of lies and deceit :winkwink:

Did you read the article? Quote where did it say anyone in the administration sent form mail to newspapers.

It called patriotism, ignorance and the same mentality that supported Hitler. They are often not dumb, but bound up in this cloak of righteousness and "superiority", come from West Virginia and ain't got one clue as to what may have happened in the next state - nevermind a foreign (that means being one of "them") country..

Yep, they are blinded by patriotism. It's also called cultural brainwashing.


I'd accept this type of ignorance from an under-developed country, but not no big huge developed country like America. I mean shit, put those books to use. Engage in some independent thinking and stay away from Fox News for a bit.

I guess Bush has to actually blow up the world for these peopel to realize that he's no good.

Gemini:

Good golly Gemini! That sure was witty!

Mmmm.. yea I seemed to be more "well traveled" than you :1orglaugh

All hate filled subjective opinions of a Webby that lives in some fantasy land called Webby World...just opinions...no more than that.

theKing:

Once again the parrot fashion defense.. "all hate".. "fantasy" blah...

King.. who hates ya?? Me?? Nope! Who hates the US? Me?? Nope.

Ya ain't got one clue!:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

King... I'm off to exercise my freedoms.. ah.. sorry, that's something ya don't know about! :winkwink:

Peace out man!

So the soldiers all got together and attempted to pull off this scam of their own accord?

I know signing my name to letters written for me is an attractive proposition and I wish more people would bring this sort of idea to me. I am lazy, write some propaganda and let me sign it, pleeeease.

You are seriously going to try and tell me that this brain fart was not thought up by someone in the administration?

I do as I choose to do...and that is called feedom to me.

I suspect that it was thought up by a soldier...either Enlisted or Officer...as my friends in the military that I correspond with are not very happy with the portrayal by the media. By the way how is it a scam...if you agree with it?

theKing:

You do as your told, else there is some "felony" we can discuss - real freedom is when you ain't got all these laws, or a need for them.

Meanwhile.. I'm gonna conspire in "freedom" about shooting that fraudulent asshole without being watched - and dammit, I'm gonna express my opinion "freely" - just like most other civilised places :winkwink:

Gotta go! :thumbsup

You are good at telling bad jokes...and your denial of hate is a bad joke.

theKing:


Gee thanks! Your denial of the truth is far more problematic - least will be for you.

Off!

what the FUCK did Iraq have to do with terrorism?
How about spending 167 BILLION on finding that cock sucker Osama? you know.. they guy that actually had something to do with 9/11? christ.. Take out saudi arabia.. where the hijackers actually came from. That was the most ridiculous strawman deflecting reply I think i've seen here for a while.

besides wasn't it to liberate the poor iraqi people??? or is the reason still changing to suit the argument?

it was bush that sat on his hands when the threat was imminent.. it was under bush that the information network failed to protect america. Clinton sent tomahawks raining down on his camps.. which while ineffective and useless is still way more than what bush did. The intelligence reports showed the risk and the BUSH administration either ignored it or was too useless to pick up on it.

If Bush wasn't so deep into the Saudi Arabian royal families ass there might have actually been some real value for those dollars spent in Iraq... what do we have now? WMD that aren't contained and are out somewhere on the black market. Hooray.
And an Iraq that is quite possibly on the brink of an islamic revolution. Gee I feel safer.

Bush blew up the wrong sand ******s.

taking out saddam certainly isn't a bad thing depending on how it's done, but don't talk about terrorism and Iraq in the same breath when there are several other countries that actually are known harbourers of them.

I do not currently have anyone telling me what to do. In the case of laws...I usually choose to obey them...but sometimes I do choose to not obey the speed laws...and maybe a few others...but it is my choice.

Saddam openly supported terrorist orgs aligned against Israel...verbally...as well as financially...and the US declaration of war on terrorism...included terrorists orgs globally and those countries that support them.

One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter... and vice versa.

1. as does Saudi Arabia.

2. Saddam giving money to suicide bombers's families is a publicity stunt. It's not like he's funding Hamas.

3. Who gives a fuck if he supports violent palestinians. The US government gave Saddam support when he was killing his OWN people - does this mean the US government should be disposed of?

4. Support of palestinian bombers is different to support of al quaeda. Israel is responsible and can take care of it's own issues. How many palestinian bombers were hijacking planes on 9/11? If any links at all show Saddam gave money to terrorists with international activities and not just publicity stunts for localised issues then yeah there was some merit taking him out on terrorist grounds.
I don't see Bush bombing terrosrist orgs in north Ireland. And I don't mean that in a bland blaise statement, just that the administration will only go after the terrorist orgs it wants to for whatever reasons it feels like making up.
I fear Hamas about as much as the IRA.. not one fucking Iota.. spend money getting at Al Qaeda, Jemiah Islamia etc etc. orgs with proven international scope to harm western countries. Going into Iraq because Saddam gave money to bombers families before taking out networks with proven records of anti-western action is reckless, irresponsible and frankly a waste of money and western blood.
it's like fighting a group of muggers and starting off with expending half your resources kicking the one in the wheelchair while the big one is coming up behind you.

Did you think that up all by yourself?

It's a good thing that Saddam is gone (depending on what replaces him and the repercussions) but if even ONE more attack happens on American soil while he was spending hundreds of billions on a country not even in the running for #1 threat and the attack comes from the Saudi's again or another more pressing threat then he deserves to be violently and humiliatingly removed from office.