:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

And he claimed it for Spain - it was actually the puritans who first settled in North America -

BTW, D-man.

That camel country you speak so low of is how you drive your SUV. America is not no magical country. We rely GREATLY on foreign goods.

And this is why we're in Iraq now. Killing them for what belongs to them.


It's a vicious cycle.

anti-bush,

why do you live in the US?

why don't you move?

just curious.

First off stop laughing - it's ignorance, not ingnorance

If your are from America then you sir are the one suffering ignorance - I suggest school - maybe you can learn something about what you are talking about!

Yeah France does'nt owe the US anything - but being nice guys we are and while saving the UK's ass we removed the Nazi's for them anyway - Next time I vote we let them stay -

First I don't have an SUV - Second if your trying to preach the we are there for the oil propoganda then you are not worth even talking too!

If you knew anything about the demographics of the country you would know 90% of the people in Iraq live in the stone age and need water more then power

Saddam was a mass murderer, he attacked other countries, he killed anyone who opposed him - he lived by the sword and if your trying to defend a person like that then you are indeed a dumbass!

<b>anti-bush,

why do you live in the US?

why don't you move?

just curious.</b>



Why should I? just curious? Just because I don't feed into the propoganda and take everything our corrupted government take for value does not mean I don't have as much right to be here as you do.

And judging from your response, I'm going to assume that you value the 'freedom' that America grants you. Which of course includes the freedom of speech, Am I right? So, why can't I have the freedom to express my views?

Do you REALLY believe in freedom, or just anyone who blindly follows the American government and dismiss all the bullshit that goes on?

Anyway, why should I? just curious?

:thumbsup Eddie!!

http://www.usis.usemb.se/Holidays/ce.../Columbus.html

It's more about remembering the voyage he took to discover the world was round, not flat. The Spaniards where the ones who went into what is now known as Mexico and into what is now known as New Mexico and Arizona and SLAUGHTERED Indians. I can't remember the name of the Indians, right now, they messed with but I do know the Indians in that area joined together with another tribe and kicked some serious Spanish ass.

let me guess, you are a vegetarian too?

sh-h-h-h - it will be our little secret :winkwink:

Okay!!:winkwink:

<b>First off stop laughing</b>

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLMAOLMAO!

<b> it's ignorance, not ingnorance</b>

Gee, really? I forgot that I was perfect and am not allowed to make mistakes. Sorry.

<b>If your are from America then you sir are the one suffering ignorance - I suggest school - maybe you can learn something about what you are talking about!</b>

First off, I am not a 'sir'. I'm a female.

Second of all, the only INGNORANT(I made sure I spelled it the way you like it) one is YOU! You advocate the killing of a whole group of people and talk as if they don't deserve a good as life as anyone else. You just expressed your racism and pure INGNORANCE(oops, another typo!!!)

<b>Yeah France does'nt owe the US anything - but being nice guys we are and while saving the UK's ass we removed the Nazi's for them anyway - Next time I vote we let them stay -</b>


Yeah, I guess we paid them back for helping us out in the REVOLUTIONARY WAR!

Ooops, I forgot to mention that beautiful statue of liberty the French gave us.

By the way, it's 'doesn't', not 'does'nt'.


LOLOLOLOL(As per your request, I will continue to laugh)

You are doing nothing but expressing more ignorance. Stop listing to what the news tells you and engage in some independent research.

In this entire thread, you've yet to point out any point in history where Columbus was responsible for the murder of a single indian, let alone 90 percent of the indian population. We're all waiting, Mr Informed and Enlightened one.

Saying that he found the United States and lead people who would end up killing Indians does not fly. That's a huge stretch. That'd be comparable to a real estate agent selling a house to a would be murderer, and then being blamed for the deaths of his new neighbours. It's stupid.

Ahhh someone catches on. Im going back to my peace pipe now.

<b>First I don't have an SUV - Second if your trying to preach the we are there for the oil propoganda then you are not worth even talking too!</b>

Yes, that is what I'm saying.

And yes, that IS one of the reasons.

http://www.newamericancentury.org/iraqclintonletter.htm

<b>If you knew anything about the demographics of the country you would know 90% of the people in Iraq live in the stone age and need water more then power</b>

Prove this by any means.

<b>Saddam was a mass murderer, he attacked other countries, he killed anyone who opposed him - he lived by the sword and if your trying to defend a person like that then you are indeed a dumbass!</b>

Yes, Saddam is no doubt a mass murderer, and I support him just about as much as I support Bush.

And....Bush too is a mass murderer. For he killed thousands of Afghanis. And turned around and killed thousands of Iraqis.


They are both fucked up people to me.

touchy are we? lol

sure you have every right to live wherever you want and i certainly have not attempted to repress your views. i simply asked the question.

i would just think that you would want to move to a country that you would be more happy with. one that supports your ideology and contempt for America.

I don't take everything our "corrupted government" dishes out with a smile and i am smart enough to see that it comes from ALL politicians regardless of party.

i do not limit my disdain for poilticians to just one party as your nic indicates. i choose to focus on how i can get ahead in any environment. i act on reason, not emotion.

winners find a way to win and losers usually just whine. the freedom i believe in allows you to choose between the two.

what you have chosen is apparent.

If Columbus was alive today, we wouldn't need to be rebuilding schools in Iraq to get their oil. We'd just sick Columbus on them.

<b>In this entire thread, you've yet to point out any point in history where Columbus was responsible for the murder of a single indian, let alone 90 percent of the indian population. We're all waiting, Mr Informed and Enlightened one.</b>

I'm a female. Please take note of that.

And as I have mentioned before, Columbus WAS the 'father' of so-called Western Civilization. He 'discovered' America. He led the people to kill the Natives just like Hitler led his people to kill millions of Jews.

<i>Saying that he found the United States and lead people who would end up killing Indians does not fly. That's a huge stretch. That'd be comparable to a real estate agent selling a house to a would be murderer, and then being blamed for the deaths of his new neighbours. It's stupid.</i>

So, according to you, Hitler was not really a murderer because he did not kill anyone with his bare hands.


Let me pose a question to you:

If I send my two friends to rob your house, am I not as responsible?

Loryn,... it was the Mayans as well as some lesser tribes. ;-)

If Columbus was alive today, we wouldn't need to be rebuilding schools in Iraq to get their oil. We'd just sick Columbus on them.

Yeah, kinda like how we've rebuild Afghanistan.

<b>i would just think that you would want to move to a country that you would be more happy with. one that supports your ideology and contempt for America.</b>

well, you thought wrong.

<b>I don't take everything our "corrupted government" dishes out with a smile and i am smart enough to see that it comes from ALL politicians regardless of party.</b>

no doubt about that. that is what government is.

<i>i do not limit my disdain for poilticians to just one party as your nic indicates. i choose to focus on how i can get ahead in any environment. i act on reason, not emotion.</i>

and you need to point out where i'm acting on emotions? if my name was '"lick my kitty", would you have though I was a prostitute, eventhough I'm not?

Stop putting so much emphasis on my nick.

<b>winners find a way to win and losers usually just whine. the freedom i believe in allows you to choose between the two.</b>

and this is from some total stranger who absolutely knows nothing about me. your little attempt to psycho-analyze me just failed big time. for you know nothing about my life and what i do.

i point out the good and bad in this world, and what's fucked up, i do my best to try and fix it. even if it means the little things. there's nothing wrong with being aware and 'whining' about the evilness in this world.

being quiet about it only produces more evilness. silence is deadly.

<b>what you have chosen is apparent.</b>

no, try again. but you must actually KNOW ME.

really? where are you getting your numbers?

really? where are you getting your numbers?


judging by your responses, you don't follow much of anything.

you seem kind of dumb to be a chick

never mind . . . soldiers can surrender if they want to live

Okay, Mrs. Informed and Enlightened one.

Yes. He discovered the large mass of land. He was an explorer. How is finding a country "just like" Hitler leading his people to kill millions of Jews. How is it even remotely similar?

That's funny. I don't remember even mentioning Hitler in my post. Hitler's intent was to kill Jews. Columbus' attempt was to find India. Murderer. Explorer. Do you not see the difference?

You didn't even acknowledge my analogy. Is a real estate agent responsible for the victims of a murderer that he sold a house to?

Hitler wanted to kill Jews. Hitler ordered people to kill Jews. Hitler incited hatred towards Jews. Colubus discovered a mass of land. Wow, it's like they were seperated at birth.

Of course you are. You sent them to rob my house. You intended for them to rob my house. However, say you sent two friends to my house to meet me, with no intention of them stealing my shit, and they went ahead and robbed me, then no, that's not your fault. Granted, you might feel a little shitty about your poor judgement of character, but you're not to blame for the robbery.

But hey, while we're at it. Columbus isn't the one to blame. What about the boat builder that built his boat. Fucking genocidal maniac, if he didn't build that boat so well, Columbus would have sunk at sea! It's the boat builder's fault!

Does that sound ludicrous? Good. 'Cause that's just one step away from how ridiculously misplaced your blame is.

you seem kind of dumb to be a chick


Actually, you remind me of that one little boy in class. You know, the one who suffers from all of those problems like ADHD and what not.

Now, this little boy can't catch up with the rest of the class, so he reacts anyway he can, which usually means making a whole bunch of stupid random comments.

And I usually feel bad for those little boys .

So, I pity you. However, you're never too old to learn, even if it's a slow process. And of course its sometimes slower for others.

come on now, no fair throwing logic into the discussion

so there is hope for you? glad to hear it

Slight correction, Chodadog. Columbus was trying to find a way to avoid the Jews. The spice market was insane and he wanted to find a cheaper source.

Hitler wanted to kill the jews, and the gypsies, and well the list goes on.

Spain finaced Columbus cause they were greedy and wanted to make more cash. Oh yeah and to throw a fuck you to a few other kingdoms.

Us Indians did not get discovered by Columbus, nor was our land mass. Columbus missed the continent and hit an island. Us indians had a problem with those puritans. True it was in our nature to help out starving people. Does it matter that we did? Yes, would it of altered much if we had not? Prolly not.

You all gave us some funky illnesses by accident, we kinda cool with that. It was a mistake, so we gave you all corn, but forgot to tell you how to properly grow it, so it made you all sick, an honest mistake. You all gave us alcohol, we in turn gave you tobacco, fair deal, we kill each other. You all gave us shiney things, we gave you our land, opps, so in return we had you all scared of tomatos for a long as time. Apparantly this really pissed you guys off so you gave us small pox blankets and ran out lil asses into the dirt.
We said uncle, then built casinos, now you all give us your money.

every country has do gooders with a cause. i guess you are it. lol

no, anti-bush made me assume you shave your twat. your emotions are indicative of your posts, not your nick.

you are a total stranger to Columbus, yet you have extrapolated many things. have you ever thought really hard about what you post?

yes, whining about Columbus on a porn board is a great start to "fixing it". lol

so is stupidity.

ROFLMAO. please, go play in traffic!

<b>Yes. He discovered the large mass of land. He was an explorer. How is finding a country "just like" Hitler leading his people to kill millions of Jews. How is it even remotely similar?</b>

Got Darnit, he didn't discover anything!

The country was already there. And the ONLY reason why they claim he discovered it is because he so-called helped America to it's civiliation. Not because he literally 'discovered' land.

http://www.capmag.com/article.asp?ID=1967


<b>That's funny. I don't remember even mentioning Hitler in my post. Hitler's intent was to kill Jews. Columbus' attempt was to find India. Murderer. Explorer. Do you not see the difference?</b>

You didn't have to mention him, *I* mentioned him.

And Columbus was no damn explorer. He was a murder like Hitler. They both had an agenda. Only Hitler was a little more upfront with his. Also, The same way Columbus led the people to beleive the Native Americans were filthy is the same way Hitler led a whole group of people to believe the Jews were filthy.

NO DIFFERENCE.

<i>You didn't even acknowledge my analogy. Is a real estate agent responsible for the victims of a murderer that he sold a house to?</i>

That's because it's not analogous to Columbus.

<b>Hitler wanted to kill Jews. Hitler ordered people to kill Jews. Hitler incited hatred towards Jews. Colubus discovered a mass of land. Wow, it's like they were seperated at birth.</b>

That's funny. What land did he discover? Was it really that simple, or you're just in denial?


<b>Of course you are. You sent them to rob my house. You intended for them to rob my house. However, say you sent two friends to my house to meet me, with no intention of them stealing my shit, and they went ahead and robbed me, then no, that's not your fault. Granted, you might feel a little shitty about your poor judgement of character, but you're not to blame for the robbery.</b>

HAHAHAHA, so are you saying Columbus had no intentions of takiing land? Then why the did he 'discover' it in the first place? What was the purpose of his 'voyage? hmmmmm?

<b>But hey, while we're at it. Columbus isn't the one to blame. What about the boat builder that built his boat. Fucking genocidal maniac, if he didn't build that boat so well, Columbus would have sunk at sea! It's the boat builder's fault!</b>

More stupid 'anolagies' coming from you

<b>Does that sound ludacris? Good. 'Cause that's just one step away from how ridiculously misplaced your blame is.</b>

Nope. I have to actually make sense for me to judge.

You know, there actually <i>are</i> good arguements to suggest that Columbus was genocidal. I disagree with people that argue the point, but at least they're informed and have an idea of what they are talking about. Anti-bush, however, is obviously completely oblivious to the real evidece to support the genocidal Columbus arguement.

And you don't have to be so pedantic. You know damn right that when i say discovered, i mean discovered by europeans.

<b>no, anti-bush made me assume you shave your twat. your emotions are indicative of your posts, not your nick.</b>

those were two separate quotes. are you able to keep up? if i'm going too fast for you, just tell me and i'll just go at your pace. after all, i am for the people *rollz eyez*


<b>you are a total stranger to Columbus, yet you have extrapolated many things. have you ever thought really hard about what you post?</b>

lol, that was by far the dumbest piece of doo doo i have ever heard.

i will bounce this question back to youl: have you ever really thought hard about what you post?


<b>yes, whining about Columbus on a porn board is a great start to "fixing it". lol</b>

as long as you have your websites and your little 'business', you don't care about nothing else. i'm 'whining' to real people. you have no idea what i do in my life. but it seems to me as if you're trying really hard to know. just email me and i might tell you. ASSuming is not good.


but i'm stilll 'whining' with real people, right? hmm, are you saying that the people on here knows nothing about history and that you guys only know about porn?

<b>so is stupidity.</b>

yes, i am glad that you acknowledge that, so why are you still in stupid mode?


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Because we can.

This is so funny..... I haven't heard something as funny in a very, very long time!

Does anyone here actually celebrate Columbus? I haven't gotten any party invites.

<b>You know, there actually are good arguements to suggest that Columbus was genocidal. I disagree with people that argue the point, but at least they're informed and have an idea of what they are talking about. Anti-bush, however, is obviously completely oblivious to the real evidece to support the genocidal Columbus arguement.</b>

In other words, you're lost for words. Bottom Line: Columbus did not 'discover' America. The only thing he discovered was a a group of land hungry murderers.

i don't celebrate it and i live in America