<b>And you don't have to be so pedantic. You know damn right that when i say discovered, i mean discovered by europeans.</b>


They didn't discover shit. They knew it was there and they wanted so they took it.

And it doesn't matter what you say. Columbus discovered America because helped bring it to 'civilaztion'. Not because it was 'discovered' by Europeans.

<b>Does anyone here actually celebrate Columbus? I haven't gotten any party invites.</b>



No, not really. But it's still a national Holiday.


Ewwww, you're the sicko behind Consumption Junction? *pukes*

Hmmmm, freecontent:


I don't really find anything funny about that. Since your people(That's IF you're really Native America) only make up less than 1% of the US population, and are continuing to die from poverty related causes.

Actually Columbus visited both Latin and South America on his 4th voyage I believe it was.

And he WAS directly responsible for the enslavement as well as the deaths of quite a few Islanders.

Don't they teach history anymore or did everyone sleep thru it? :helpme

No. I'm not lost for words at all. I actually know the evidece to support your claims. You don't. You seem to think that the fact that he went there and planned to make wealth out of the expidition is the only evidence. Someone mentioned that the Spanish were the ones that slaughtered the indians, not columbus. I'm quite surprised you didn't on that one. If you knew anything about Columbus at all, you'd have been all over that one like a fly on shit.

The Government wanted another fucking day off !! :1orglaugh

Partytime

he was looking for a shortcut to India you idiot. Damn, your ignorance is really becoming irritating

I shall be back tomorrow.

You people are so ignorant. It's pitiful. This is what I call middle class America? No knowledge, no nothing. Just make the money and be merry.


Congratz baddog, I see that you're doing a little bit of research. You are on the right track. Too bad it's all twisted!


Ta Ta for now.

Mastermind?

The idiot thought he was in India..

chodadog,

I'll be back tomorrow with some sources for you. Are you sure you can handle it?


And if I didn't get on something, that's probably because I missed it. But I'll make sure I find it and respond to it.


Oh yeah, and what Gemini said. :)

research? Common fucking knowledge you dolt. This is research:

Today we take for granted that the world is round. In the fifteenth century, however, most people believed the world was flat. They thought that monsters or a trip over the edge of the earth waited for anybody who sailed outside the limits of known territory. People laughed at or jailed others who dared think that the world was in the shape of a globe.

There were educated persons, however, who reasoned that the world must be round. An Italian named Christopher Columbus was bold enough to push this notion, and ask for money to explore the seas, and find what he thought would be the other hemisphere of the earth. Portugal, Italy and England refused to support such a venture.

At that time, spice merchants were looking for an easier route to Asia. They traveled south past Africa, around the Cape of Good Hope, and continued eastward. Christopher Columbus convinced Queen Isabella of Spain that it would be easier to sail directly west and find the rich treasures of India and Asia. A new route would be found, he said, and possible new lands for Spain.

Columbus first asked Queen Isabella for help in 1486, but it was years before she agreed... provided that he conquer some of the islands and mainland for Spain. Columbus would also be given the title of "Admiral of All the Ocean Seas," and receive one-tenth of the riches that came from any of his discoveries.

Finally, on August 3, 1492, he and ninety men set sail on the flagship Santa Maria. Two other ships, the Nina and the Pinta, came with him. They sailed west. Three long months went by. His men became tired and sick, and threatened to turn the ships back. Columbus encouraged them, certain that they would find the spice trail to the East. On October 11th, ten o'clock at night, Columbus saw a light. The Pinta kept sailing, and reported that the light was, in fact, land. The next morning at dawn they landed.

Christopher Columbus and his crew had expected to see people native to India, or be taken to see the great leader Khan. They called the first people they saw "Indians." They had gone ashore in their best clothes, knelt and praised God for arriving safely. From the "Indians" they learned that the island was called Guanahani. Columbus christened it San Salvador and claimed it immediately for Spain. When they landed on the island that is now Cuba, they thought they were in Japan. After three subsequent voyages, Columbus was still unenlightened. He died a rich and famous man, but he never knew that he discovered lands that few people had imagined were there.

Columbus had stopped at what are now the Caribbean Islands, either Watling Island, Grand Turk Island, or Samana Cay. In 1926, Watling Island was renamed San Salvador and acknowledged as the first land in the New World. Recently, however, some people have begun to dispute the claim. Three men from Miami, Florida have started a movement to recognize Conception Island as the one that Columbus and his men first sighted and landed on. The controversy has not yet been resolve.

Few celebrations marked the discovery until hundreds of years later. The continent was not even named after Columbus, but an Italian explorer named Amerigo Vespucci. In 1792, a ceremony was held in New York honoring Columbus, and a monument was dedicated to him. Soon after that, the city of Washington was officially named the District of Columbia and became the capital of the United States. In 1892, a statue of Columbus was raised at the beginning of Columbus Avenue in New York City. At the Columbian Exposition held in Chicago that year, replicas of Columbus's three ships were displayed.

Americans might not have a Columbus Day if Christopher Columbus had not been born in Italy. Out of pride for their native son, the Italian population of New York City organized the first celebration of the discovery of America on October 12, 1866. The next year, more Italian Organizations in other cities held banquets, parades and dances on that date. In 1869, when Italians of San Francisco celebrated October 12, they called it Columbus Day.

In 1905, Colorado became the first state to observe a Columbus Day. Over the next few decades other states followed. In 1937, then- President Franklin Roosevelt proclaimed every October 12 as Columbus Day. Since 1971, it has been celebrated on the second Monday in October.

Although it is generally accepted that Christopher Columbus was the first European to have discovered the New World of the Americas, there is still some controversy over this claim. Some researchers and proponents of other explorers attribute the first sightings to the early Scandinavian Vikings or the voyages of Irish missionaries which predate the Columbus visit in 1492. The controversy may never be fully resolved to everyone's satisfaction, but 1992 marked the 500th anniversary of the Columbus discovery.

That's not research, well not yours anyway. That's called a cut and paste.

http://www.usis.usemb.se/Holidays/ce.../Columbus.html

:1orglaugh

excuse me, where did I say it was my research? I was giving an example so she would have a clue.

I'm sure anti-bush is capable of using Google.

sorry, but she has not convinced me of anything except that she is an opinionated ignoramus, ergo, probably not intelligent enough to use Google.

very well said

anti-bush don't you know how to click the QUOTE button? :1orglaugh Those bold "quotes" were like reading off of plaid playing cards. Something tells me, you don't belong in this industry or on this board for that matter.

I told you I dont argue with idiots. So shut your cock holster. :321GFY

So you are female -

Well sweetie

I never trust anything that bleeds for 5 days in a row and lives!