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candyflip

10-17-2003 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Choker

He did have it in his sig, if you do a search you will find that whenever TTT came up Candy flip would come in and spam this stolen script. Even in this thread he defends Powercum saying he wrote it when he did not, he stole and changed TTT. As others pointed out they both had the same exploit because of their same code. Candyflip has since day one used this script and tried to get others to use it knowing it was stolen while at the same time taunting me to do something about it. Well I am going to do something about it.

Please show me one instance of where I'm using this script. Not one domain in that list of yours belongs to me...probably because I'm not using it.

You're just sore because you have no legal resource again Icefire, so you're just taking it out on me for defending him. Are you sure you're not still in high school little boy? Are you really a man? This is how little bitches and crybabies act. Grow up man.

candyflip

10-17-2003 04:00 PM

Here's the real TTT ripoff. Please be sure to tell them what you think of them as well.

http://www.x-forum.info/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1383

They call it Turbo Traffic Drive, and a few of the sites in your list there are using it.

~Ray	10-17-2003 04:21 PM

Choker,
People in this business will do most anything for a TON of traffic... why not try finding someone who viva's in Espanol?

:2 cents:

~Ray

Steve

10-17-2003 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Oracle Porn
Choker bro you need to relax!
The only one you should have a problem with is powercum...her stole your script or whatever...
Even if candyflip used cjoverkill and had it in his sig (I dont know if he did or didnt...) it doesnt mean that he is a thief.

Candyflip promoted the fuck out of this stolen copy of TT, and waved it in Choker's face at every opportunity. People tend to remember shit like that. I might not remember Candyflip's nickname, but remind me who he is, and he'll forever be "that asshole" who supported a punkass thief.

Quote:

Originally posted by Oracle Porn

Ill have to disagree about the once a thief always a thief thing...

Then you will be doomed for multiple assfuckings in this business. Thiefs not only fuck you once, the drop under the radar, get a new persona, and re-appear to work their scamming magic all over again. If you are eager to give a thief a second chance, he'll just fuck you deeper and harder the second time around. Good examples are Steve Goldman and SexTraffic Pete - how many times have they fucked people who gave them a second chance?

init	10-17-2003 04:43 PM

havent been to gfy in a while so don't really know whats up but how do you tell if a site is using the stolen script?

Choker

10-17-2003 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by candyflip

Please show me one instance of where I'm using this script. Not one domain in that list of yours belongs to me...probably because I'm not using it.

You're just sore because you have no legal resource again Icefire, so you're just taking it out on me for defending him. Are you sure you're not still in high school little boy? Are you really a man? This is how little bitches and crybabies act. Grow up man.

um, killerpeach.com or some dumb name like that was one I think. Whats a matter punk, where's all those flames on me like you used to throw around when you didn't have this Sharkey's guy site in your sig. Remember when you first started your shit with me and you had Jason and Alex's site in your sig? Yeah you said something to the effect that they were not worth it anymore when you took out. How many jobs have you had punk? Your demeaner sure has changed with this new sig hasn't it? Boss watching what you post here? LOL. You are so FUCKING owned thief. When you get fired from this job, PLEASE try to freelance writing code, Please. I will make it a point to underbid you just to make you starve. Punk

stocktrader23

10-17-2003 04:51 PM

I make money playing poker.

Choker

10-17-2003 05:10 PM

Quote:

Are you saying that killerpeach.com was not your site? From the thiefs own board http://bbs.icefire.org/viewtopic.php?t=21

Quote:

We have a new 24 hours traffic back winner. This time it's http://bbw.killerpeach.com

So this was not your site Candyflip, you punk ass thief?

init	10-17-2003 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by init
havent been to gfy in a while so don't really know whats up but how do you tell if a site is using the stolen script?

choker...

FATPad

10-17-2003 05:33 PM

Quote:

LOL

You spammed the stolen script all over GFY in Choker's face and now you're mad he's getting back at you?

HAHAHA

Choker

10-17-2003 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FATPad
LOL

You spammed the stolen script all over GFY in Choker's face and now you're mad he's getting back at you?

HAHAHA

Yep funny how this pissant trys to distance himself from this stolen script now, check this out http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...hreadid=142385
?

Quote:

Quote-Rewrite doesn't mean copy does it? Inspiration and plagerism are two completely different things

Are you rewriting someone elses script for your present employer Candyflip?
Candyflip not only helped promote a stolen script, he went so far as to say he asked a attorney if the code was ok, according to him the lawyer said it was.

Quote:

Candyflip-The license was not violated in any way whatsoever. This is new code, and everything has been looked over and ok'd by not one lawyer, but two...so your arguement is null and void.

Well Candyflip, it's time for you to post this lawyers contact info so we can see if this trully happened. Can you do this Candyflip?

Now what anyone including Candyflips present employer needs to think about real hard is since this thief has no problem with his "partner" stealing someone elses code and claiming it as his own, what code do you think you are getting from him? Are you going to wait a year when some coder finds this and you are responsible for Candyflip selling you someone elses code?

Theo	10-17-2003 07:31 PM

choker has every right to be mad.

Cyborg69

10-17-2003 08:19 PM

Cat fight :BangBang:

I need some to get me some popcorn :)

4Pics

10-17-2003 08:30 PM

bling bling

Aheib

10-18-2003 01:16 AM

Choker, please confirm the list you posted on the front page once more, and remove kikos-asian-thumbs.com
That site has been using AT pro for God knows how long,
and still is today, so I think there's a mistake there.

Good luck fighting this thief.

PowerCum

10-18-2003 01:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Choker

Well Candyflip, it's time for you to post this lawyers contact info so we can see if this trully happened. Can you do this Candyflip?

Now what anyone including Candyflips present employer needs to think about real hard is since this thief has no problem with his "partner" stealing someone elses code and claiming it as his own, what code do you think you are getting from him? Are you going to wait a year when some coder finds this and you are responsible for Candyflip selling you someone elses code?

Ok, here we go again...

1 ) Candyflip does not sell CjOverkill code because CjOverkill is a free script :)
2 ) Take a look at the script. Except the usual mysql connect functions all is different. Even both scripts use different methods to track raws/uniques. The your uses crappy j-a-v-a-s-c-r-i-p-t cookies, the mine uses the logs as they are intended for that reason.
3 ) Candyflip did not consult a lawyer. I was the one who consulted the lawyers. One bulgarian lawyer (I am bulgarian cityzen) and one spanish lawyer (I live in spain). Both lawyers said ok, so no legal problem. Otherwise I guess you would be launched a bunch of lawyers over me months ago.
4 ) Posting the lawyers contract? Dude are you crazy? I guess in the USA the police cannot even come and look into your home unless they have judge's registration order (something you have not nor will ever have).
5 ) 12 days left and the clock is counting.
Hope to have you avaiable then as your dramma posts are the best promotion.
6 ) About the bugs that affect both programs, Will give you a simple example... Yout ctts C coded scripts are vulnerable to several buffer overflows same as windows Internet explorer... according to your logic... you ripped IE and made ctts from it's code.
7 ) your product (TTT) is old outdated software piece. It has been outdated by CjOverkill long time ago. I know a couple of webmasters who used CjOverkill and then switched to Fet, TM3 or UCj, but no one who has used it more than one week has switched back to TTT. So make your math here. Anyways in 12 days they will not have need to do that as they switched mainly due to server load problems under high traffic (not only the sites using sextracker are big).
Also CjOverkill has been under almost constant developement and improvement since version 1.0. I only got 3 weeks of rest due to vacations and some personal issues. If I don't mistake TTT was developed once and it's stuck there (last version release with new features was more than 6 months ago).
8 ) Similar to what you told me some time ago... If you were not watching at my product and were developing the yours one then it would really succeed.

PS: the lawyers were paid by the current CjOverkill main sponsor. So as they pay me for developing and maintaining it... it will be free and there for long time. And they are not an adult firm, so they don't give a fuck about your screams.

Have a nice day

PSS: hope you will get cool soon. I have read your other post about that you are ill (or something like). Hope it's nothing serious. I really enjoy our dramma posts here.

sexeducation

10-18-2003 02:51 AM

Candyflip is also well known on this board to make up "ICQ Chats" and for purposesly mis-quoting (adjusting the quoted text) of anothers post ..

which is in violation to this board's AUP ..
and the TOS of this boards network providers ...

go for it ...
it appears you have more then one person on your side.

Good evening all ..

Tipsy

10-18-2003 04:14 AM

Only thing worse than a thief is a thief with an IQ low enough that he believes he can justify his stealing. About time you hit them harder choker.

4Pics

10-18-2003 09:28 AM

:ak47:

Fuckin Bill

10-18-2003 10:52 AM

TDF	10-18-2003 10:57 AM

100 mad chickens!

Marina

10-18-2003 11:01 AM

Amazing! I wonder how it feels to be so pathetic that you HAVE to steal from others.......

Losers who can't think of anything on their own.
Lamefucks who have no selling capabilities.

they are like lampreys who just suck onto the bigger fish andn try to ride for as long as they can.

Must be a sad life - I bet these losers also have a *tiny dick* complex too!

TheViper

10-18-2003 11:10 AM

candyflip is a cheap cheating bastard choker.

you can't trust that fucker, I did a logo for me and he never paid me. :321GFY

cluck

10-18-2003 11:12 AM

Choker take a chill pill. It's just like when you and Sleazy were on MCL and I thought you sounded like the most high strung gentleman ever. What exactly about his script don't you like? If the layout's too similar to yours I'm sure they could just change it up. If they added a turbo feature like yours well, too bad. Just because yours was the first widely used feature like this doesn't mean you're the king of the technology. Does the logging actually work better than the tracking?

If you can't legally prove that they copied your CODE, you don't have a leg to stand on. Sure cjoverkill is unimaginative, it's just an improvement on an existing concept(likt TTT was). If I were you I'd be more concerned about fixing your script and getting patches out to your userbase. I mean you can sit here and make physical threats on GFY, but all that has to happen is for someone to start a massive attack against servers running TTT and you'd be finished in the trade script biz like Microsoft is finished in the military server biz.

Ron	10-18-2003 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheViper
candyflip is a cheap cheating bastard choker.

you can't trust that fucker, I did a logo for me and he never paid me. :321GFY

:eek7 Why should he pay you for a logo you made for yourself?

candyflip

10-18-2003 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheViper
candyflip is a cheap cheating bastard choker.

you can't trust that fucker, I did a logo for me and he never paid me. :321GFY

You never delivered a completed product, and what you showed me was made using someone elses non licensed photo. You bitched after not hearing from me for 24 hours, so I refused your product and with held payment. I wasn't satisfied with your work or your attitude, and that's my business.

SexEd...that ICQ came from someone calling themselves SexEducation. Are you saying it wasn't you? Then who was it?

Choker...you still haven't shown one instance of me using this script. I had it on the killerpeach.com site as a test, the site was only about 10k. I no longer own the domain and the script actually came down when you first asked people to remove the script.

I did consult a lawyer, on top of Icefire doing the same on his end. He was my partner at the time and I knew I'd be taking shit for backing up any other projects that he had going...namely CJOverkill. I knew that the admin layout was similar, and was told that the code was new. Upon looking at both pieces of software, I was told that there was nothing that would be considered an infringement.

I have never claimed ownership of the program, and only pointed it out to people when asked.

So let's recap...I'm a cheat and thief because:

Choker says so, even though I no longer have any involvement in his beef with Icefire.
A Pedophile says so...because I posted an ICQ log from a conversation with him.
A disgruntled designer who used unlicensed content in a design says so.

Did I miss anyone else?

Script Dude

10-18-2003 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by PowerCum

2 ) Take a look at the script. Except the usual mysql connect functions all is different.

I hope nobody believes this guy.

Sample code from TTT:

Code:

if ($_GET["link"] hahahaha "") { $_GET["link"] = "nolink"; }

mysql_query("UPDATE ttt_links SET hour$thishour=hour$thishour+1 WHERE link='$_GET[link]'") 

    or print_error(mysql_error());

if (mysql_affected_rows() hahahaha 0) {

    mysql_query("INSERT INTO ttt_links (link, hour$thishour) VALUES ('$_GET[link]', 1)") 

        or print_error(mysql_error());

}

Your obvious copy:

Code:

$g_link=$_GET["link"];

...

if ($g_link hahahaha "") { $g_link = "no_link"; }

@mysql_query("UPDATE cjoverkill_links SET h$thishour=h$thishour+1 WHERE cjlink='$g_link'") 

    OR print_error(mysql_error());

if (mysql_affected_rows() hahahaha 0) {

    @mysql_query("INSERT INTO cjoverkill_links (cjlink, h$thishour) VALUES ('$g_link', 1)")

        OR print_error(mysql_error());

}

So you use $g_link instead of $_GET["link"] and changed a couple names. The code is identical and this is only one example.

You just happen to have a $thishour variable? You just happened to use a print_error function? In fact, lets look at the print_error function...

In TTT

Code:

function print_error($msg) {

    echo "&lt;font face='verdana' size='3'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Error:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;font size='2'&gt;$msg&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;";

    exit;

}

In your copy:

Code:

function print_error($msg) {

    echo "&lt;font face='verdana' size='3'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Error:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;font size='2'&gt;$msg&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;";

    exit;

}

100% identical. I suppose its coincidence that you print your error messages out in the exact same format, font and size as TTT?

I hope no one is foolish enough to believe you.

Choker

10-18-2003 12:08 PM

Quote:

I did consult a lawyer, on top of Icefire doing the same on his end. He was my partner at the time and I knew I'd be taking shit for backing up any other projects that he had going...namely CJOverkill. I knew that the admin layout was similar, and was told that the code was new. Upon looking at both pieces of software, I was told that there was nothing that would be considered an infringement.

You are so full of shit, lets get this so called "attorney" you consulted on board. Where is the documentation from this "consultation" There isn't any because you are a a fucking thief and a lier. You are a coder and you helped distribute stolen script. That's all there is to it. Anyone that hires you to write code will most likely get thier asses sued for using stolen code, you have CLEARLY demonstrated your support for stealing code as STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURE.....your morals and ethics are pretty clear for anyone to see. Punk

candyflip

10-18-2003 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Choker

You are so full of shit, lets get this so called "attorney" you consulted on board. Where is the documentation from this "consultation" There isn't any because you are a a fucking thief and a lier. You are a coder and you helped distribute stolen script. That's all there is to it. Anyone that hires you to write code will most likely get thier asses sued for using stolen code, you have CLEARLY demonstrated your support for stealing code as STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURE.....your morals and ethics are pretty clear for anyone to see. Punk

I can't code for shit. I have never once called myself a programmer and have never sold or distributed any code of any type. I have never been employed by anyone, full time or freelance in this capacity. Frankly...because I don't code.

I told you that my representation is a family member. I have prenty of paperwork, but since I don't have any real association with CJOverkill, it doesn't really matter. It was a "Cover Your Ass" situation. He would be more than willing to talk to your lawyer if you actually have a valid reason...but since you don't, I don't think that's bound to happen. You may hear from him though, if you keep this shit up. Once again, I have nothing to do with CJOverkill. It has never carried my name, I have never claimed to have been responsible for coding it, and it has never been available for download on my site.

So...
I am not a programmer.
I did not take, steal or borrow any of your code ever.
I do not code or claim ownership of CJOverkill.
I have not ever housed a copy of this code or any code for that matter, on any of my domains for download, so distribution is out of the question.

You have proven nothing more than that you have a beef with me because I voiced my support for something that you feel infringes upon you. That's all. I haven't stolen from or cheated anyone, and you have yet to prove otherwise. Shit...you haven't even proven that Icefire stole your code. You've played your role in his game perfectly, and he has played you like a fiddle. That really gets to you, doesn't it? So you just make threats and call people names like a little boy just out of diapers.

You're barking up the wrong tree my friend...your morals and ethics are pretty clear for everyone here to see as well. You're attacking the wrong person, because you have no recourse to go after the person you think you should be able to go after. First you have to prove that he stole your code before you can do that. But...you don't want to go the legal route and have to spend any money, so instead you choose to slandor me. That's fine with me, because those who know me and who have worked with me know the truth.

I can't wait to see what else you think you've got on me, because so far...not one thing has held an ounce of water.

cmwkings

10-18-2003 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Choker
BTW, if you are using this stolen script and are not on this list, don't worry you will be soon. Next two days I will launch a new cash reward program designed just for finding pissant thieves. And I got lots more surprises in store for ya. Stay tuned thieves.

I love forward thinking....Cheaters die :ak47:

Choker

10-18-2003 01:29 PM

Quote:

I told you that my representation is a family member. I have prenty of paperwork, but since I don't have any real association with CJOverkill, it doesn't really matter. It was a "Cover Your Ass" situation. He would be more than willing to talk to your lawyer if you actually have a valid reason...but since you don't, I don't think that's bound to happen. You may hear from him though, if you keep this shit up.

Tell me what I need to do to hear from this "lawyers's secretary family member" what ever it takes I will do it. You disclaim being associated with this stolen script now, but my how your story was different before. Since I do not have a lawyer for this then your "lawyer" can talk to me directly. I DARE HIM TO. You are such a back peddling piece of shit. here punk, show your lawyer this...

I will pay cash for any and all info about any sites owned and operated by Candyflip. It is my objective to make sure any potential "partners" of Candyflip are made aware of what a "thief" and "cheat" this punk is.

Now let me hear from your lawyer. BRING IT ON. Punk

myjah

10-18-2003 01:47 PM

there is NO love going on in here...I gotta go

candyflip

10-18-2003 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Choker

Tell me what I need to do to hear from this "lawyers's secretary family member" what ever it takes I will do it. You disclaim being associated with this stolen script now, but my how your story was different before. Since I do not have a lawyer for this then your "lawyer" can talk to me directly. I DARE HIM TO. You are such a back peddling piece of shit. here punk, show your lawyer this...

I will pay cash for any and all info about any sites owned and operated by Candyflip. It is my objective to make sure any potential "partners" of Candyflip are made aware of what a "thief" and "cheat" this punk is.

Now let me hear from your lawyer. BRING IT ON. Punk

I have no association with you or your program, nor do I have any association with CJOverkill. Therefore, there's no reason for them to speak to you. If you think I'm going to pay out of my pocket so that you can talk to they, you're out of your mind. Find something to sue me over and then maybe we can talk.

You can make your threats all you want. It's actually kind of funny. You know nothing about me except for a few domains. You have done nothing to prove that I have cheated anyone or stolen anything. You're just a pissed off asshole who has no recourse for being one upped by someone you've referred to "script kiddie".

Sorry man...this has nothing to do with me. It's about time you come to that conclusion yourself. I will admit, that it was fun getting under your skin.

There's nothing you can do here but continue to make yourself look like the asshole. Offering to pay to find out what sites are mine, for the specific purpose of damaging my business drive this point home.

Later man. I'm done with you and your bullshit. Have a good one.

Choker

10-18-2003 04:02 PM

Yawn, you think you are off the hook? You think just because all the smack you talked is in the past that I will not do something about it? LOL, you are fucked dude. I have only started fucking your life up. Just wait. The good stuff will start very soon. Punk

candyflip

10-18-2003 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Choker
Yawn, you think you are off the hook? You think just because all the smack you talked is in the past that I will not do something about it? LOL, you are fucked dude. I have only started fucking your life up. Just wait. The good stuff will start very soon. Punk

You're a real big man Choker. What's the matter...can't handle someone talking some smack? That's all you do is talk shit. This entire thread is you talking shit. You're an asshole man. Lots of people here think this of you, most know for a fact and those who don't just rely on your shitty circle jerk traffic because they can't build their own. It's as simple as that.

I'd piss with you all night, but my Yankees are in the World Series and I'm off to toss a few back.

Ta ta for now.

easyjesus

10-18-2003 04:42 PM

someone dig up the old original thread with this dumbass candyflip running at the mouth, then compare the two threads. guaranteed laughter from all the back peddling....:321GFY

Choker

10-18-2003 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by easyjesus
someone dig up the old original thread with this dumbass candyflip running at the mouth, then compare the two threads. guaranteed laughter from all the back peddling....:321GFY

http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...hreadid=142385

Candyflip has a new boss since then, so now he has to watch what he says. Funny how I am so childish, yet this guy actually went to the trouble of changing the contact info on his domains to "Choker Lick My Ass". Someone reported him for false whois info. LOL

Stud Money

10-18-2003 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Choker
this guy actually went to the trouble of changing the contact info on his domains to "Choker Lick My Ass". Someone reported him for false whois info. LOL

Fair play :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

skillfull

10-18-2003 10:08 PM

choker: im 100% with you in that
make that fuckers pay !

Jon	10-18-2003 10:43 PM

Can someone please explain to me what's so wrong about what Powercum did?

I don't use traffic trading scripts, nor do I run any gallery sites, so I may not be on the right track here, but so far, I see nothing really drastically wrong here.

Choker made a FREE script available, and the only catch, is that 1% of the traffic goes to his TGP. Fine, nothing wrong with that.
Powercum copied the FREE script, and still kept it FREE. Maybe he did the same 1% traffic thing as choker, still fine though, as long as he kept it FREE. Powercum finds an exploit, and thinks, I think I'll make some cash from this, and offers a patch for $25.

Somehow I doubt anyone would pay $25 for a script that is FREE. I think that a better way to resolve this matter would be for Powercum to agree to give props to Choker for the script, and give Choker 1% of the traffic as well.

Theres really no need for blacklists, and name calling on the boards. If I'm wrong though, I'm open to corrections.

:thumbsup

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