Who's to say they're not here with us? Especially if we look like them.

Or who's to say they aren't much more advance than us in space travel, and live somewhere we can't yet see or reach with our current technology?

That's not that hard a leap to take.

Ahhh.

So your theory is backed up by total lack of evidence, and the other theory that has a mountain of evidence is shot down by one missing piece?

who's to say YOU (we) aren't the half monkey - half whatever it is we're evolving into?

This is a very good point! I've never viewed it this way!

jDoG

But if they created us, how the fuck did they get here to create us, so they have to be more advanced. And to created us that many thousands years ago, they have to way more fucking ADVANCED than us! Otherwise they didn't create us!

jDoG

And the in-between from us to monkeys?

why don't some one get in a rocket ship, pack enough food for like 5 years and just go straight forever and ever and see where they end up, i'll do it

I'm sure they thought about that! But how the FUCK do they get back. How the FUCK do they tell us what they found? Huh? They wouldn't make it back and they would die!

jDoG

radio's, there is no gravity so there is nothing stopping anything from traveling, radio's will go forever in space, if you got the rocket ship going million miles per hour, you shut off the engine and it will cruise the whole time and never slow down

What you see as a mountain of evidence is not seen as evidence by the almost 50% of the scientific community that believes in creation.

lol.... you can't get past that can you....

where's the half bear/half fish?
where's the half dinosaur/half bird?
where's the half bull/half goat?
where's the half dog/half three toed sloth?

humans have the ability to rationalize and speak and whatnot. Other animals do not. Does that mean we're better?

birds have the ability to fly, yet we do not. Perhaps the bird is superior.

do you honestly think some alien dropped us on this rock in a three piece suit with a briefcase and a cell phone?

open your eyes man.

or believe whatever you wanna believe.... that's your right. I don't need to convince anyone of anything... lol

peace/

AMp

Then put forth some evidence of creation, aliens, or car parts creating all of us.

The only evidence you seem to have is a lack of any evidence which is somehow supposed to support your theory.

Using that logic, I created all of you, and there is no evidence supporting it because I want it that way.

And quite honestly, I'm disappointed with my creation.

I'm calling a mulligan.

i really think my solution is the best :(

And you get past it way too easily, swallowing what you're taught in school.

I'm not swallowing what either side teaches.

I'll never believe evolution create all life, and I'll never believe in the "God" that the Bible teaches us about.

But I DO believe that some intelligence created the world WE know... as a science experiment or something. Whatever it was, life here was CREATED nonetheless.

you've been watching too much Star Trek.

There is a lot of stuff stop interferring with signal. Meteriods, they will interfer. Planets in the way, that is a big interferance!

jDoG

alright, that's a flat out lie. 50%? Bullshit. The scientific community generally considerers creationists as crackpots.

The so-called "scientists" who espouse creation usually aren't even accredited in a related field.

ok well im going to go transfer data from my house to get a dubb sack and back then smoke it and virus scan my memory while i sleep so i can wake up and clean my system with a shower and eat some food so i can charge up my memory battery

In a very short period of time, through selected breeding,
we humans intentionally "evolved" this:

http://www.pbs.org/edens/yellowstone...hotos/wolf.jpg

into this: :eek7

http://www.neapolitan.com/atlas6.jpg

and this: :1orglaugh

http://www.cnn.com/2000/TECH/computi...y.mrwinkle.jpg

the main difference in this evolution vs natural evolution is that it was people selecting the characteristics that were successful (passed on to future generations) vs the longer, more random, process of natural selection.

100:glugglug

And all of those are still... dogs.

We still can't successfully breed a dog and a bird. Or a sheep and a farm boy. :1orglaugh

what about the in-betweens between your father's sperm and your mom's egg?

Think about it...

you go from your father going around all his life looking for a mate... he finds your mom...

then, 1 little buddy out of hundreds of billions of little spermatozoids he created in his life go and find his way through your mom's tubes all the way up to her egg (1 out of hundreds she produced in her life)


They both combine and create 1 single cell that holds the dna information... half from your father, half from your mom...


Then, it multiplies ITSELF into a circle of cells... Your ASSHOLE (blastocoel) was created. (for real.) That's the Donnut shape aggregation of cells, then goes the evolution from your asshole to the foetus, then to you. SO, YOU ... a single human being, got the jackpot out of MILLIONS of other contestant to be the chosen one... THEN, you evolved all the way from one single cell to yourself today.


Now, tell me, did my little story sound extravagant, or hard to believe? To me, this proven fact about birth sounds way harder to believe (although true) compared to believeing that some animal, (monkey) evolved to fit his environment in a better way over 1 million years...

after all, if you think that you get one kid every 20 years, that is 50.000 generations to weed out each individual that wasn't fit for its environment...


[edit: I didn't mean to be rude or in any way disrespectful in taking your parents and you as an example, if it sounds like it]

the only limiting factor in achieving any of those things, is time.

the two completely different dogs pictured are labeled that by us. I doubt an alien visitor would identify them as the same.

at a certain point, animals that came from the same genetic line become so different from eahother that they cannot produce offspring and/or the offspring are infertile.
ex. horses and donkeys are currently at that stage.

Personally I believe in God and evolution. It's obvious that humans and all living things have evolved over time, which I believe is the purpose of life.

I believe the human body is just a vehicle for the soul and that we are here to learn. If you notice over time, humans haven't just evolved physically, but mentally we are definitely use a higher percentage of our brains. I think our ultimate goal is to use 100% of our brains and gain all knowledge possible. I believe that if we learn to use 100% of our brains, we wouldn't even need a body (See reference in movie Powder)

I believe there are other universes and God, who has no weight or body, is a force of energy that knows all but created humans and other species as vehicles to experience things literally.

I don't know exactly, but I absolutely believe in evolution and I also believe in creation. I don't believe it's exclusively one or the other. I'm a big fan of Sylvia Browne and her Novice Spiritus "religion", which talks about the Other Side and why we are here. I have no proof of God or of a soul, but like I have said many times, if I am going to believe in SOMETHING in my life, I believe in this more than any other religion or science.

Whether it's true or not, it makes life much more pleasant to believe we are here for a higher purpose than just evolving from cells accidentally. I like to believe it's all part of a master plan and that the soul never dies, it can incarnate as many times as it chooses to learn from life. Even if a soul incarnates as a cause fighter, and dies as an infant... that STILL serves a purpose in life. We learn about the disease it died from or from the accidental death that it had or from a murderous death. From all of these things, we learn and that soul returns back to the other side, leaving information and knowledge for the humans behind to learn from.

Like I have said before, if our mission is to learn everything and experience it (the entire human species) we cannot do this in a perfect world, like Heaven. We need to have problems and imperfections in this world, to learn from them. I believe the soul's purpose is to learn everything possible and to also learn how to love everyone equally. The majority of people in the world are "good" people, but there is always room for improvement. I believe in all the messengers, Jesus, Buddah etc... they came to teach us that God is not malicious and hateful like he is portrayed in the old testament. I believe EVERYTHING in life serves a purpose and that the soul does in fact go on and the ones who deny God, keep reincarnating until they accept God and become "good".

Ever see a child prodigy? One very gifted, in same music or drawing or graduating college at age 7? I believe they came into this world, with those talents and brain power, from having experience in previous lives. I believe we all have one soul and can have many, many lives and that eternity, is boundless and timeless, so a mere 80 years living on earth, is nothing compared to forever and ever, but if humans and other creatures lived forever without dying, our resources we all be used up and we would have run out of room LONG ago.

Evolution? Yes. God? Yes. Whether God is an "alien" or spirit or whatever, I believe there is a creator with both male and female attributes. I am open minded and love hearing about new points of view, but from everything I have heard of, I like this theory the best :) When I die and I am wrong, doesn't matter does it :1orglaugh

:1orglaugh

Um... we have scientific AND photographic proof of each step along the way. Where's the proof of the "in-betweens" that go from monkey to human? No fossils? The process took millions of years, but no evidence exists?

Exactly! :thumbsup

You clearly know absolutely nothing about evolution and natural selection.

You are fucking naive.

I don't believe photo was invented back then ;)


we also proved that LIFE can be created out of thin air.... and have proof for that as well..


all it took was some very specific elements, and a high charge of energy... then boom, a single cell was created.


scientists produced that in a lab...


but no one so far has been able to Create something out of NOTHING at all...

that's why I do believe in God... for the first elements had to be created, somehow... but then, who created God if creation is the truth? thats just something too hard to answer for me, so I try not to question it too much... there's a begining to everything, and I believe it's part of both ;)

Australopithecus Africanus
Australopithecus Afarensis
Homo Habilis

Do a google search for more.

Dimwit.

ROFLMAO! Hey...to each his own. You're beliefs are your beliefs..and you're welcome to them. But a Ford Fairlane fender can't be compaired to proteins and amino acids. You should watch National Geographic for about 2 years straight.

Thin air and high charges of energy had to be CREATED to produce that life, right?

:thumbsup

All reputable scientists agree that a "missing link" is yet to be found.

that's evolution my friend.... evolution of anthropology ;)


it'll come...


for how long did astrology stay stagnant at believing we were the center of the world?

now they're taking pictures of other galaxies.... and are working on even better tools to take pictures of earth-size planets in other galaxies, and possibly prove life is possible there according to the atmosphere they can analyze from light-years away ;)


all I'm saying is because it's not yet in the books and all 100% defined doesn't mean it's not the truth... the current proofs lead to that belief... that's what a scientific deduction is....

Like DonovanPhillips said about the dogs...

I do not believe humans evolved from apes or any other species. It's not possible. You can breed Rottweilers and Poodles, but ultimately you still have a dog species. There has been no species that has morphed into a new one. Birds don't breed with lions etc. A Chinese person can recreate with a black person, but that still makes them a human, not any type of newly evolved species.

There is no proof of this happening, anywhere, with any types of species. So therefore, I don't believe all living things evolved from one single cell and procreated from there, on it's own. While it's possible that cell duplicated it's own genetics, it's not possible that it forms a whole different type. I believe every species was designated their own cells and patterns to create with and that is where creationism comes in. No matter how many years and studies we perform, humans will NEVER give birth to anything other than it's own kind. Same as a chicken egg won't hatch a new species of bird or mammal or fish.

Wow, some amazingly uneducated and just plain...dumb people in this thread. :glugglug

-= Reposted so others can read it again =-

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that's because you are thinking on such a small period of time...

in 9 months, a cell grows to a full grown human... right?

do you consider a single cell to be comparable to a human, yet, in 9 months with the right environment a full human is born...



take that same growth scale, apply it to a scale of 1 billion years. Now you have evolution of life....