Here is a relevant bump

John albright owned porngraph and fucked all the porngraph users because it was not making any money... then he used the money he earned to build nats.

is this really news?.. are you really that dumb?

John Albright is a crook? Really? The owner of NATS? Don't you use NATS?:error

sho nuff... we got a GREAT deal on an unlimited non-expiring license!

bump....

sig spot!

No he's not. If I had an illness that prevented me from working, it would be John running my program. He's one of the most honest people in the biz, keep the blame where it belongs.

no if you read thru the thread its clear that hooper owned porngraph

no surprises quickbuck doesnt get any of my traffic

I thought John Albright's involvement in pornograph (whatever it was) was fairly well known....guess not.

yeah it is. He built a high quality very popular webcounter, then he sold it and the new owners turned it into a spyware installer. Oh wait... a 'feature laden toolbar' installer.

clear enough?

Relax... I wasn't accusing your golden boy of anything malicious at all. I just said there was an involvement.

Don't worry dig420, I read the thread. Notice the question marks. I just found it a little hard to believe that someone using NATS would call the maker of the program a crook on an open forum.

more about quickbuck here

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=774606

fantastic bunch of guys :helpme

Just a little more info on quickbuck
http://www.gfy.com/showpost.php?p=13...&postcount=125

Who let this glorious little thread die, since PG was owned by the same sack of shit that owns NATS...

Old as hell but I remember this shit. Had a few sites I had to clean up till 4am.

bump for a good thread

Woooooooooooooow

Whats funny is you paid em per install!
Oh the old history...

Man if some of you newer people in this biz had any clue...

I have given you some shit for some of your posts in the past, but you were spot on about this from awhile ago. I can remember how fucking pissed I was about this when it happened. I was somewhat new to adult and boards back then so I never really followed the trails of usernames and which businesses they started up next.

I'm not really adding anything, just saying that some of your older posts about a few of these things make a lot more sense now.

Whats cute about this whole thing is how John made it out of that one to come back and fuck us all again. How many times does this industry let the same guy fuck them before we say enough is enough and blacklist the jerk?

yes, wow indeed.

bump.

Crook? Everything he did was legal.

Sad to see the site go from Lamborghini money maker to parked though...

Interesting read...

If history is any indication, many.

You don't have to break the law to be a crook. All you have to be is sneaky and/or dishonest. He is both of those and more. Installing software of any kind, for any reason by any means without the end user's informed consent and knowledge is a crook and anyone who feels otherwise has an ethics problem that they need to examine post haste.

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No way this is getting off the main page before New Years. Way too important to be buried this quickly.

BUMP!

I agree with you. But I think the jist of this thread has more to do with morals and who to trust with your business.

Ye shall not forget...

You are not industry.
Stop pretending that you are.

Everything I do is legal too...Yet you ride my ass and suggest I am a crook as well.

Funny how the porngraph and now NATS things are so well documented involving thousands of people and you stick up for them but when I defend my rights over one little punk, you call me a thief.

You're a joke.

Back up to the top for this one. Let us all remember what John is all about, we have all year to deal with the fallout of him now.

bump .....

Not a smart idea bumping this, let me remind you that he who controls the tracking software controls the money flow, you could be out of this business with a push of a button.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...Propaganda.jpg

I send very little traffic to anyone who uses Nats. So it wouldn't put me out of business.

Why is it not smart to remind people once in a while what he did.

Not cool :disgust

Except he didn't. If you could read, you'd know that. No wonder you're broke.

back up for people to re-read