Sorry Wizdom, you're wrong.

What you figured out is the chance of the last person in the class having the same birthdate as someone else in the class.

You having forgotten to take into consideration of everyone's chances. Juge was talking about ANY two birthdays coinciding with each other, NOT one specific birthday coinciding with any other.

You are wrong again Wizdom.

Juge didn't forgot about anything. Yes, the flip of a coin is always 50%, regardless of the previous flips. There is no such thing as reseting the odds, but I understood what you meant anyway. The odds of a classroom with 30 people having two same birthdays are the same everytime (exactly like the odds of a flip of a coin are the same everytime.) And Juge knows this.

1/12 change is not even close, but prefectly demonstrates Juge's point. People always greatly underestimate (or overestimate) how often things occur. Their so-called 'common sense' is flawed.

It doesn't even seem to make sense that the actually percentage of chance is 70.64% of 30 random people having an alike birthday. 1/12 (Wizdom's calculations) is close to what most people would guess and is a little under 10%... not even close.

"Common Sense has nothing to do with odds" only because common sense is usually wrong. Wizdom would keep his money when he'd actually make money!

Here's more interesting facts:

Q. How many random people do you need together before the odds of an alike birthday surpass 50%?
A. 23 people @ 50.7% chance. 22 people only have a 47.5% chance.

Q. How many random people do you need together to have a 1/12 percent chance of an alike birthday?
A. Between 8 and 9 people.

anyways,
that's the truth!

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HQ

[This message has been edited by HQ (edited 02-24-2001).]

Somethimes translated word can be confusing. Let me give you the mathematical solution to this:
http://www.fortunepussy.com/images/FuzzyMath.jpg

Haha, you are right, but not because my calculation is wrong, but because I did not bother to calculate a saturday morning the exact numbers, haha, so I'm the Troll, Haha.

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wiZd0m

I guess this why I was never good at math.

all I see when I look at that equation is #s and none of it makes sense to me. I guess I will stick to my HTML codes

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Thumper The Amatuer next door!

I'm too bored of going around and around with this to argue your, sorry but, weak counter-argument. You cannot compare death and carnage with sexuality between consenting adults...it just doesn't equate, even with religious freaks. But, I have to hand it to you, after pissing off a lot of people, you sure do take a lickin and keep on tickin' gotta kinda admire your tenacity.
April has left this thread for good http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/smile.gif

Oh and by the way, WiZdOm...congrats on the longest thread http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/smile.gif

Oh, and if you think what I wrote did not make sense, the guilty is http://babelfish.altavista.com

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wiZd0m

Originally posted by aprilkorova:
"You cannot compare death and carnage with sexuality between consenting adults...it just doesn't equate, even with religious freaks."

-- I'm pretty sure this whole thing was about ethics. It's also perception, you perceive my content as unacceptable. Other's perceive your content as unacceptable.

"But, I have to hand it to you, after pissing off a lot of people, you sure do take a lickin and keep on tickin' gotta kinda admire your tenacity."

-- I'm not trying to anger anyone. I stand behind my first amendment right to view gore.
Every story has 2 or more sides, most people see one side.

Ok, I finally got around to checking this out so here's my take:

Someone said Corpsie's site is making us all look bad, I don't think that's true at all. There's no relationship between his site and porn any more than there is between gambling and porn. Casinos are for adults, so is porn, so is sick pics at corpsies. There are lots of people who are very morbid, the fact that they're buying AP memberships shows that they're normal people that like to see gross stuff, but still like to jerk-off to a hot babe. (If they were buying memberships to rapeandkill.com that would be different)

If anything, sites like his might take some heat off of us. http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/smile.gif I mean after looking at his site your average porn site looks so wholesome!

Also don't pretend you're all so offended, it's perfectly natural to have (to an extent) a fascination with death and carnage. Why does everyone slow down to stare at a car wreck? Why do we love action movies and slasher flicks? It's sick, but it's not unnatural - it's a way of facing and accepting our own fears.

Also: I know it's common to say "there's no such thing as public domain images, do you have a license?" But there are pics that aren't copywrighted, and they can be used legally without a license. If I take a picture of a corpse in my backyard, then post it to mycorpsecollection.com where people trade sick images, it's implied that the rights of ownership are being waived, so corpsie can post it legally. Not the same as a scan from Hustler, which isn't public domain. http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/smile.gif

Why the arguments over all of this shit? I give Corpsie credit for his work. We all may differ in opinions, but we all have the rights to express these opinions. The site, while it may be considered immoral to some, appears to be completely legal. He's not cheating any sponsor. It seems that some people out there are a bunch of hypocrites. All of us peddle porn, but what about the person's view who thinks that pornography is immoral? If it's legal, it's fair game. Plus there are no apparent violiations of the TOS for the AP program, so why the fuss?
Whatever...

Ah wiZd0m... perhaps it's time for a name change? http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/smile.gif


once i read your first line (the troll thing) i was just thinking about how long this debate was going to last... but fortunately mathematics always has only one true answer and is easy to prove!

good work,


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HQ

lol, I know words have different meaning and interpretations, but mathematics are trully the final language

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wiZd0m

We don't have problems with sites like that as long as they are disclaimered so you know what you are getting in to. The copyright thing is our main kick. I do believe AP addresses CI ppl in their TOS tho. Photogs should be given their due. Especially the ones who can stand to look at such gruesome things and shoot it! lol

Corpsie, you do know you can get limited rights from alot of sites as long as you aren't charging to get in to yours? Try emailing the edu sites and asking. <S> Then if someone asks, you can produce the mails as evidence of legal license.

Or you can always chase ambulances with your digital camera as well, or dig up a grave! http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/smile.gif

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CyberBabe
http://www.cyberbabe3d.com

Hey wizdom,

My post was to simply state that common sense doesn't understand statisitics, of which you have just proven. Don't take that as an insult, I will explain:

The odds of a coin hitting heads is exactly 50% whenever you flip it regardless of its past. Everyone knows this.

There's no such thing as a rest.

My post was to simply stat that the 1:180 signup ratio doesn't mean shit when the number of sign ups is 1, and the number of clicks is 180. This guy could have a 1:10,000 ratio. Look at every month for all these 10,000 clicks, giving that he gets 180 clicks/month. ONE of these months will show an awesome ratio (1:180) the rest will have a shit ratio (no sign ups).

This is such a low level of statistics that everyone should understand this.

The question I posed was to allow people to understand how misconcepted (is that a word?) people are when it comes to stats.

I really do not understand the meaning of your post. If you are trying to prove me wrong, then this is unneeded - I understand stats - really, I do. Common sense usually isn't very good when trying to determine the outcome of most statistic problems, including the coin one for most idiots.

let me know,

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Juge - webmaster of
Juge's Bikini and Thong Page
http://www.jugesbikini.com/

There's a 1 in 12 chance? You're WAY off! You've just proved yourself wrong. See how common sense tells you one thing, when the truth is the other. This always happens with stats. People think the gambling machine that hasn't paid out in a while has more chance of a pay out - it doesn't matter!

Let me do the math for you: I'll figure out the chance that NO ONE has the same birthday, thus proving it backwards.

person 1 has a birthday.

person 2 has a birthday - 364/365 chance of not having the same birthday. chances are 99.7% that no one has the same b-day

person 3 has a 363/365 chance of not having the same birthday as the first two. take the 99.7% chance, and multiply this with the 99.4% chance that the 3rd guy has a b-day with the other two. this makes 364/365 * 363/365 = 99.1% chance

let's do this 30 times:
364/365 * 363/365 * 362/365 * .... 335/365 =
364! / 334! / 365^30 = 26.95% chance that everyone in the class has a different birthday.

100 - 26.95 = 73.0454633% chance that in a 30-person class, two of the perons (assuming no twins) have the same birthday http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/biggrin.gif

who would have guessed?

the answer would be slightly modified if i took feb 29 into account, but not by much.

Where did you go wrong? I'll tell you the most common error:

the chances of a person in the class of 30 having the same b-day as another IS NOT THE SAME CHANCE as you having the same birthday as someone in a 30-person class. The chances of that are 8.2%.

cheers everyone,


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Juge - webmaster of
Juge's Bikini and Thong Page
http://www.jugesbikini.com/

Wizdom:

Oh, I guess HQ explained the whole thing already. I didn't understand what you meant by 'room to room', but never mind, you were talking about my initial problem, and I didn't realize it. You lost me with the 'reset' thing. But I see that you finally understand the whole deal - I wonder why my calcs are slightly off from yours - I got 73%, i think.... oh well, I'll look at it, no biggie

cheers,

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Juge - webmaster of
Juge's Bikini and Thong Page
http://www.jugesbikini.com/

Oh, and wiZd0m, it's "You're such a troll" as in "You are such a troll", not "Your such a troll" as in he is in ownership of 'such a troll'

So the next time someone says sarcastically "your cool", say "thank you!", since having the ownership of cool is a pretty neat thing. http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/smile.gif

Sorry, but that's my pet peeve, this thread is almost at 100... is that a record?

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Juge - webmaster of
Juge's Bikini and Thong Page
http://www.jugesbikini.com/

Not sure, but it's 96 now. http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/smile.gif



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HQ

Your a sick fuck corpsie. Maybe I should kill you and then make a site about it.

This mother fucker better not get a DVD! If so, let me deliver it. I'll stick it right up his ass!

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<A HREF="http://www.lushsex.com" TARGET=_blank>http://www.lushsex.com

</A>Everybody Get Your Mother Fu*#ing Lush on!

I'm sick? I'm not the one openly promoting
violence.

wizdom started this thread, not corpsie.


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HQ

I already have a DVD player.

As long as people post here, I'm going
to respond to make sure [someone] gets
that DVD player.



[This message has been edited by Corpsie (edited 03-01-2001).]

I've been an Emergency Medical Technician for over 12 years now, and some of that time in New York City.... I've seen some NASTY NASTY shit in my life...

But the nastiest shit of ALL, is right here in this thread! It's the judgemental attitude some people are taking against Corpsie for his little... uh... hobby.


Yeah, it's sick shit. Some people think that blowjobs are sick shit. Sickness is in the eye of the beholder.

After dealing with people jumping out of windows, MVAs, suicides, homocides, none of this shit phases me.

But the spirit of critcism and condemnation from PORNOGRAPHERS makes my stomach turn.


(lol as an aside... one of the first things I always used to ask my lucid patients when I was doing their medical history was, "have you ever been the victim of a homocide or a suicide....?" Well, most people think it's funny....)

Corpsie, I have filtered out your presence on this board for a while now.
Please don't associate yourself with my nickname or use it in your threads.
You can do all you want on your part of the web, just don't include me in it.
I don't think it is unreasonable.
Thank You

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wiZd0m

:321GFY

The "delete post" thing has been changed to 5 minutes, so now you can't delete your post and make it look like someone else bumped the thread. :321GFY

careful people, he's a GFY ninja:

http://about.corpsie.com/staff-pics/staff-c-squared.jpg

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

I bet you he lives in his mom's basement

Ick, I missed that.
darkjedi is forever bumping threads