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Rick Latona 06-30-2004 09:10 AM

Patrick, I thought you'd like to know that I just clicked on the sex tracker banner from Panama and I got a persistent No Credit Card dialer.

Why do you, Mad Thumbs and the rest put the sex tracker image on the top of your page? What could you possibly gain by this?

johnbosh 06-30-2004 09:13 AM

lol

stembolt 06-30-2004 09:16 AM

well your a smeg head for putting sextracker on your site.

you giot!!

hehe

mr flibble is coming

Nick 06-30-2004 09:25 AM

Make your own counter program and make the pages you list use it too!

Lane 06-30-2004 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Clemenza
Pfff.. I'm just read all the comments about the sextracker and I agree it is lame. Rebuild or redesign it, is no big deal. But the solution you are claiming based on php is probaly much lamer than the sextracker technology. I'm a C and C++ coder and build lots of times small stats collecting programs. If you are working with php.. well.. than you dont have any idea what you are doing. You cant run it all in memory so it has to write his data to disk. That's very expensive and it makes it slow. Do you have a small idea about how much data we are talking. All running and collecting, indexing and publishing on the fly. PHP is maybe nice to build the front end enviroment, not the backend for this large numbers. You have to build a scheduling and collector proces that can run in mem. No diskaccess at all. My advice to anyone who want's to join this technology, let it go. No I dont have a own product, as I told before I'm just a coder and stats programs can you get every were for free on the net.

Just my two cents

Clemenza

Obviously you don't know much about PHP

It supports sockets so you can even build your own web server with PHP if you wanted to. This means you can just use memory or shared memory without having to do disk access.

You can even use mysql with this, as it supports HEAP tables which stay resident in memory, so you get to use database features without having to make disk accesses. Indexes and such will make it extremely fast to deal with data.

just my :2 cents:

oldtimer 06-30-2004 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Hun
Been there, done that... What it basically comes down to every time is that they don't want to change or really don't see the problem. I was in pretty long e-mail correspondense with 'em, which was great, I know 'em from the early days and we did go back and forth a lot on some changes on their counter to perfect it. The counter is not the problem, that runs like clockwork, it's the ads behind the counter and the nature of the ads themselves (being blind and all)
Whats the problem?. If you dont like Sextracker rules, go list your site somewhere else. Isnt that what you tell people to do when the grumble about your rules?

BVF 06-30-2004 10:18 AM

hun could make a thread called "my balls itch. Somebody scratch em" and it would go at least three pages

cosis 06-30-2004 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rick Latona
Patrick, I thought you'd like to know that I just clicked on the sex tracker banner from Panama and I got a persistent No Credit Card dialer.

Why do you, Mad Thumbs and the rest put the sex tracker image on the top of your page? What could you possibly gain by this?

Don't mean to answer for The Hun, but if you put it at the bottom of your page it tends to count a lot less traffic...... atleast this has been my experienced

GTS Mark 06-30-2004 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rick Latona
Patrick, I thought you'd like to know that I just clicked on the sex tracker banner from Panama and I got a persistent No Credit Card dialer.

Why do you, Mad Thumbs and the rest put the sex tracker image on the top of your page? What could you possibly gain by this?

Alot of people won't wait for the entire page to load (especially if you're on 56k). Hence if the Sextracker button is at the bottom it won't load and count the true amount of hits.

DH

{fusion} 06-30-2004 11:38 AM

If you keep looking after your surfers, your already looking after your webmasters.

Rick Latona 06-30-2004 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DrinkingHard
Alot of people won't wait for the entire page to load (especially if you're on 56k). Hence if the Sextracker button is at the bottom it won't load and count the true amount of hits.

DH

That doesn't make any sense. It isn't that hard to control what loads first. At the very least, why don't you just put it as an image preload in the header?

Tom_PMs 06-30-2004 12:23 PM

I'd rather count money :)

But seriously, I think the dialer issue is a browser security issue/active-x client side issue. If you set your security higher than default, it should take "no" for an answer. Lower security, it'll basically take your settings as a "yes" before it asks. Kinda sorta..

D-Money 06-30-2004 12:35 PM

Bring back Websidestory's Hitbox counter!!!!!!

:1orglaugh

Nasty 06-30-2004 12:36 PM

Ban em, fucking counters are bullshit on galleries anyway

X37375787 06-30-2004 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rick Latona


Why do you, Mad Thumbs and the rest put the sex tracker image on the top of your page? What could you possibly gain by this?


It helps the counter's accuracy. If you put it down on the bottom, more surfers won't load the page all the way and the counter won't count the hit.

samuel 06-30-2004 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Hun

Dialers are not a problem, as long as it's clear to the consumer what it is and that it's definately NOT free. These tactics are definately a blunt attempt to mislead consumers, which is why I don't want to link to it... Also, the fact that people are trapped and as a bonus a popup to another TGP is shown makes me post this here.

That's the point, when a dialer company make these fishy things with the download windows, without giving to the user the option to say not.. it is when people starts to think bad about the rest of dialr companies..

Samuel

Nathan 06-30-2004 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rick Latona
That doesn't make any sense. It isn't that hard to control what loads first. At the very least, why don't you just put it as an image preload in the header?
j*vasc*ipt is executed at the very end of a page. Only way to get somethign to load BEFORE the rest is via a script src="" tag, and we all saw how the new PornGraph owners misused that...

Doc911 06-30-2004 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Hun
Guys, stick to the topic please... I'm trying to see if there are alternatives to the current situation, either in another counter or another way of the current counter....
Have you tried http://www.paycounter.com

Rick Latona 06-30-2004 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nathan
j*vasc*ipt is executed at the very end of a page. Only way to get somethign to load BEFORE the rest is via a script src="" tag, and we all saw how the new PornGraph owners misused that...
Would an I-Frame make it faster?

HS-Trixxxia 06-30-2004 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Hun
Guys, stick to the topic please... I'm trying to see if there are alternatives to the current situation, either in another counter or another way of the current counter....
I've been using http://www.phpee.com/index.php for most of galleries however it never gets past the submission page. I'm not a programmer so I wouldn't know what types of problems it can cause - I just know that it's very very detailed and easy to set up on your own servers - no advertising - no redirect - no bullshit. Perhaps (if you have the time) one of you can look at it and tell me why it is blocked - what is threatening about it?

Thanks

Nathan 06-30-2004 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rick Latona
Would an I-Frame make it faster?
Not 100% sure there, but even if, an iframe causes the same security issues as the script src="" tags do.

biskoppen 06-30-2004 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Strife
What counter program is that anyway?
My own

Steelhead 06-30-2004 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rick Latona
Patrick, I thought you'd like to know that I just clicked on the sex tracker banner from Panama and I got a persistent No Credit Card dialer.

Persistence Pays and so does Nocreditcard! :thumbsup

Hey Rick - How is panama?

:)

serious 06-30-2004 02:23 PM

biskoppen want to send me a copy? looks very nice :glugglug

pornstar2pac 06-30-2004 02:31 PM

Hun, don't allow them anymore.






pornstar2pac has spoken.





everyone get back to work...

grand 06-30-2004 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by biskoppen
My counter shows exactly where each gallery gets listed - and the amount of hits each gallery gets - on each TGP.

http://www.teeniecore.com/images/gcount.gif


what program is this?

Lensman 06-30-2004 04:18 PM

$1000 says sextracker doesn't change their ways. They may for a couple of days, but in 6 months, they'll be back to scamming. They are known for it.

The REAL question is, WILL the Hun follow up on his threat?

youb 06-30-2004 04:20 PM

bann them fucker!

chronic avenger 06-30-2004 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by D-Money
Bring back Websidestory's Hitbox counter!!!!!!

:1orglaugh

I remember that... :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

DavieVegas 06-30-2004 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Krille
I'f you'd ever list me I'd submit galleries without sextracker counters... :Graucho
ya :(

X37375787 06-30-2004 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lensman


The REAL question is, WILL the Hun follow up on his threat?


Why wouldn't he?

Khun 06-30-2004 06:08 PM

Good pic. I dont knwo why anyone would fuck with such a good thing as having promotion going on The Hun. I would say blacklist for life.

Rick Latona 06-30-2004 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Steelhead
Persistence Pays and so does Nocreditcard! :thumbsup

Hey Rick - How is panama?

:)

Great. I'm starting to learn where all the good restaraunts are so I'm I'm going jogging now along the sea side.

squeezeboobs 06-30-2004 06:51 PM

What about PayCounter?

Anyone got any dirt on them?

squeezeboobs 06-30-2004 09:04 PM

or Master Stats?

biskoppen 06-30-2004 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by serious
biskoppen want to send me a copy? looks very nice :glugglug
Contact me via the ICQ mentioned earlier in the thread

NickB. 07-01-2004 12:21 AM

Such a waste, it has not been changed by sextracker yet.

I would not recommend people to click on one of the counters from sextracker ( Just click on one link on their page and it's dialer hell ) Use the backbutton and it will start over and over again.

Surfers get trapped there!
Imagine howmany daily surfers get trapped through this....

Look at only the top10 from sextracker:
+/- 9,000,000 Uniques daily

Most of the site have the counter on top of the page:
That gives the counter:+/- 38,000,000 page views daily!

Can you imagine howmuch traffic only the top10 sends them daily?

NickB. 07-01-2004 02:04 AM

In contact with sextracker now

pure energy 07-01-2004 02:10 AM

They're about to be OWNED!!!!

The Hun 07-01-2004 03:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rick Latona
Why do you, Mad Thumbs and the rest put the sex tracker image on the top of your page? What could you possibly gain by this?
back in the 'early days'... advertisers, definately. I know counters (websitestory more than sextracker, 'cause they were there when the Internet started growing) helped me a lot in finding advertisers. These days? I'm not sure... I know the media checks the counters to determine who's biggest, it's an easy source to check. And we Dutch are pretty proud people, I can't say I don't like the fact that we've been the #1 site on SexTracker for years.

If a new counter will be the way to go I hope everybody will go over there. A counter is a good way to show stats, and I do believe that from a marketing point-of-view it's good to have a 3rd party counter. But this is too consumer-oriented... Isn't this a nice niche for adult.com to sneak in?


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