I've always heard that pigs are smarter than dogs. We eat pigs but not dogs. Why would intelligence be a criteria for murder?

Saint bernhards (sp) just because of all the meat though
Huskies and Malamuts (but "wild" living in greenland, alaska, sibiria etc etc.)

I think wild animals do taste better than some mass produced animals on hormones, when my wife and i shop for meat we allways go to a farmer where we live as we know the animal had a good life and lots of space and not just is to be considered as meat.

German shepard. In asian countries some are considered delicatessen though.Go figure. Kangaroo are supposedly good, too. Oh and alligator tails are pretty damn good. Tastes like chicken.

It should be based on the distance between the raw energy, and the meat.

That is to say, a cow eats grass and that is converted energy from the sun, so eating the cow is closer to the energy than eating the dog.
The dog may have eaten a mouse or other small critter, so it's second or third rate meat. If it's raised on "dog food", then it's eaten cow udders and lung and other garbage grade cow meats and ash and filler..

All in all I'd *prefer* to raise my own vegetables organically and get meats from a farmer/butcher who also raised them without drugs.

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Manatee nuggets

Well..Why can you slaughter cattle but you can't shoot a human?

Pigs are smarter than most people think. Almost smart enough to make me feel bad about eating them. But they are not smarter than dogs. (however a lot of PETA-type groups like to suggest that)

Dogs have been bred for intelligence for thousands of years. We (humans) did that to them, so that (at least partially) makes us responsible for their higher conciousness. They can understand another species (human) language and excercise good judgement under difficult stressful situations. They care enough about their adopted familys to alert them to / guard them from danger. That makes me respect them enough not to eat them.

Also, there's just not much meat on dogs. Versus a pig whch averages 400+lbs. That seperates them on the food chain in a practical sense.

ummm, what makes you think you would be arrested for cruelty to an animal if you shot a dog?

again, I think you have some huge misconceptions about the law. there is no law against shooting dogs that I have ever read.

do you have some reliance you can direct us to?

Intelligence is the reason killing a human is considered worse than killing a less intelligent animal. If intelligence is ignored as part of the criteria then humans are on the menu

50 barbecued collies


They bore them to death by reading them treads like this

I read it on the Internet, it has to be true

you can pick your friends, and you can pick your nose, but you can't pick your friend's nose

pussy is tasty, I have no problem with that at all

it is my understanding that pigs are a lot smarter than dogs

ever read Animal Farm?

Have a look at China, they do slaughter dogs and eat them.

And have another look at history: those people who didn´t think they should slaughter every living thing down weren´t the most stupid.

So everything depends on the development a society got through. Even the Romans kept their folks down with "panem et circenses" - those famous gladiator games.

There seems to be a mistake in that hierarchy. If the average intelligence is the base, it should be this way:

-chimps
-dolphins
-dogs
-pigs
-cows
-chickens
-fish
-lobsters, shrimp, insects
-fruit and vegetables
-humans

If animals could talk, would you still eat them?

It depends what they said to me.

Rick,

What about setting up a fake slaughterhouse, just on paper, and try to obtain a license for killing dogs or other "cute" animals ?

That way you would get an official explanation on paper why it is not possible / allowed.

Most answers in this thread are plain ignorant. Pitty.

domestic animal

Humans aren't rational beings.

We aren't?

Because cattles taste good.

Maybe domestic animals do to. We haven't had a chance to try!

Not from my experience.

But being irrational at times is arguably what makes humans interesting. If our behaviour was always rational and always followed consistent logic then we might be very predictable and boring.

Cause cows don't go fetch :2 cents:

You can shoot any animal at anytime but first you need to say thest words very loud so your neighbors can hear you.

Watch out! It's about to attack.

I learned that from South Park :)

How much comfort can most cows bring you compared to most dogs?

You can't shoot a cow with a gun and kill it. The way they kill cows is by firing two bolts into the side of their head which as far as I know knocks them out so they don't feel what happens to them next.

If you shoot a dog in the head with a gun you'll likely not kill it.

I guess it comes down to respect really. I don't have a problem with the people that eat dogs or any other animal, so long as they don't feel it.

And I don't put humans any higher than other animals, though we don't eat humans, some people do still though that is because that's how they have found to get a source of meat.

Really you can compare all of this to if you had to eat a person. Would you want them to not suffer? If you would then you're a fucked up person in my opinion. :)

Cheers,
Matt

I ate them in China. They don't taste that good. I'd rather eat some chicken.

Just another one of mankind?s hypocrisies. Like exactly which inches of skin are rude and which aren?t - they are all made of the same stuff!!!

What kind of guns are you thinking of? BB guns?

No. Have you not ever heard of people surviving headshots?

Cheers,
Matt

Yes, but that's the exception, not the rule.

When does farming end and animal cruelty begin...

Rick, perhaps this is one of those things like "obscenity".

You'll know it when you see it.

we dont eat dogs :), well I dont anyway

AC

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Interesting point. Obscenity is a moral issue defined by what doesn't have ANY redeeming quality what-so-ever. For instance, Consumption Junction is not obscene because we have witty commentary on the site.

Does this mean that you can kill any animal you own as long as you do it humanely? I guess it does, after all you can have a dog put to sleep.

I saw a comedian tell a joke one time that he read it was illegal to have sex with a dead animal. He said, "what would tell the judge? Your honor I thought the cat was alive?"