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bump for all season
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wow, cant belive I havent read this thread before, very nice! :thumbsup
Still, there is no money in SEO though.....let this thread die now |
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How many domains you run and flood SE's with (and how many doorway pages do you have)? |
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all the people that run now and get a doorway generator and shit organized forget one essential thing: dedication, it won't work without, but yes, once you have your shit together you can lean back and enjoy the ride, I am still working with my 98 goto inventory keyword list and it is just doing great !! ...thanks for this thread crash. |
time is over..nevermind about myquestion...
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:pimp :thumbsup
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thank you for something you posted in this thread. it was something i was not familiar with and will now be implementing. hopefully i will see good results within a month :thumbsup
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Hehe good thread crash...it's funny to see people get worked up that there's these huge secrets over blackhat seo and no one should ever tell them. The funny thing is though you could lay your techniques out completely and 99% of webmasters are either too lazy to implement them or too dumb to understand. Also, I'm glad you didn't give away too much info :winkwink:
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I completely agree with this. You can learn the basics, you can get tips from other SEO'ers bu the only way you're every going to become a master(if thats even possible) at this craft is by experience and determination and a little luck never hurts. Only idiots are threatened by threads like these. I encourage open discussion about SEO because I know at the end of the day, if we all talk about it.. we'll stand to gain more then we could ever lose. The only thing I reccomend to anyone else who maybe thinking of starting an SEO thread to help out his/her fellow GFYers is remember, nobody spoon fed you when you were starting out, so dont spoon feed anyone else. No friend is worth it, no amount of money is worth it and you're only creating a monster by doing it. Offering advice and having open conversations is a perfectly healthy thing though and instead of this "there's no money in SEO" business like its some big secret... well, I think thats silly. When its a joke, its funny. But when you're seriously trying to discourage people from learning about it, thats not neccessary. Good job crash! |
Crash Is back
Ive been focussing on non spam, non porn for a while - and decided to drop in and have a look at this thread again, courtesy of a few recent email requests for tutilage concerning it. Im so glad it caused the fuss that it did.
My point of this post is that if you know SEO, you can turn your hand to any online industry sector. I basically sold my 'blackhat' scripts and huge amount of documentation for an undisclosed fee, bought a nice house, spent some quality time with my wife and son, and got on with non porn, non black hat stuff. My comment to you all is basically, I have just surpassed my best ever $$ day in porn, with revenue comprised totally comprised of non porn sites that are really well SEO'd. The thing I like about it is that I dont ever have to rebuild anything when it gets banned, as it never gets banned. Get your SEO right and traffic and $$, as a general trend, only ever goes up. Im now totally commercial and am loving it. The work is just as hard - hell, I even have a 50:50 business partner who is really savvy, but the traffic and $$ just goes up all the time, I couldnt be happier. Based on this, I will answer any reasonable questions on non black hat SEO, as I am way out of date, for the next 30 min. Crash |
Q: How does one know whether the site he is trading hardlinks with is regarded as a bad neighbourhood/site?
Q: Is it a bad idea to trade links with sites like these: http://www.porn-dvd-rips.com/ http://www.nudeathleticgirls.com/ |
I'm still in the top 10 for MILF on google
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can you show us your SEO'd site(s) ? ;)
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Q: How does one know whether the site he is trading hardlinks with is regarded as a bad neighbourhood/site?
A: site: www.domain.com in google will show if the site your are trading links with a site that is listed in google --------------------------------------------------- Q: Is it a bad idea to trade links with sites like these: if site is NOT LISTED - shit yeah - simple rule DONT |
can you show us your SEO'd site(s) ? ;)
-------------------------------------------- no, im not going to do that I wll however answer any seo theory questions |
I had to go tend to a crying 16month old so will extend the 30 min if necessary, and as always, will answer honestly, and to the best of my knowledge.
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for non-porn, is google adwords still your best sponsor?
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Thanks for the thread crash (",)
On a further note pple, there's a basic php script running around on another board which can be fine tuned :pimp I always seem to get listed high on google when optimizing for yahoo and get high on yahoo when optimizing for google lol!! Build, Test and experiment!!! |
for non porn - my best sponsor is
casino coins then adsense i can show you a new site that isnt in our link matrix, that is optimised, that we use to promote gambling www.fastpaypoker.com. That site is the style we are building for corporate, I just havent had time to build it into the link matrix yet, so can show it here. |
Does google ever unban domains after sending reinclusion reqeusts?
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Is it possible to just start making like 30 real sites (no black hat) each with their own content and domain.. ALL 30 linking to ONE main website on a NEW domain and good anchor text? so that your main website will get a good ranking in google in a couple of weeks/months for that keyword? or will Google punish you for having that many inbound links from all new sites to your main new site?
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I get the feeling that rad is selling something, but his sentiment is kinda true;) - never buy a script, if you dont know enough to get your own script made, then buying one is a waste of time. Read, learn experiment manually, and soon you will know what you need to automate. Get a decent programmer and a few $$ and you are in business.
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And what do you think about blogs right now and in the future?
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Frank
read my way earlier post on linking, that was my advice then, and it is still my advice now. But you gotta feed PR in there somewhere, how you do that is up to you. |
ben, reinclusion - no, you just gotta wait it out - could be 1 year, could be 2, could be lifetime. My advice, if you are banned, move on.
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i have not read the thread yet, but i am popping a question so i dont miss u
if i create hundreds, even thousands of highly similar pages, what search engines will look down at this? my phpnuke site was being spidered and those pages still show up in searches. however, new articles are not being spidered anymore. why? is cloaking worth it? |
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Script has nothing to do with me, I just know it was floating around there for a while I know of a few pple that have used it too great effect Yep all your need is a good programmer :) |
frank - re blogs, I think blogs are the future, but it is how you manipulate them - for instance dont believe what the BAM script writers say - it doesnt work, I have tested it. The future is RSS IMO, or build a quality blog with your own content, and let it build its own PR, but RSS is my 80% focus for the rest of this year
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fuzzy - too general, I cant answer - be specific and i will
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What have you found the best keyword density to be, what will obviously get you banned ?
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say you have 50 sites, whats the proper way to interlink them? and lets say you dont want to give any preference to any one of the 50 sites.
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Do you use only one 3-4 word phrase or do you also include different forms of the words such as the singular and plural form of a word on the same page? I'm sure you would create a new page but I don't spam the serps and am wanting to know your opinion on optimizing for 'semantic' searches.
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sultan - i dont consider keyword density - too lazy - as im am not spamming, but i do mod re-write so it is in page URl and I do include it in heading tags.If I were spamming, I go: in url, in h1, and 3 times per 300 words, but that is not good advice as I have been out of spam for 6 months or more
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bdld - I would never linterlink 50 domains so I dont know
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sultan - i am corporte world now and my content is auto-generated so I dont acutally consider keyword phrases, the script, whcih scrapes its own content is optimised to place keywords in specific places of the page, but, by the nature of the script, I have no knowledge of what the keword phrase is. Does that make sense?
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stuipd question here but what is RSS?
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anyone else want to tell me what "refspam" means?
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horny dog - I dont know what to say..... never heared of google?
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Crash, your right about RSS
I've been looking at it for a while, been on my list to do thngs, create the feeds and add them into other sites (which I won't mention). Seems to be a good way to go :) |
How did the RSS thing work out for you? :)
Do you believe in PR? |
How long for the sandbox to finally release a site?
Can you avoid it with slow BL building? |
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I remember you had a small blog with a hypnotizing background. :winkwink: |
I suck at search engines and dont understand how to gen "IN".
whats the best book or guide to read on this so I can learn more? |
ok thats it, im done :)
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hey mate, long time no talked, wanna get back on icq and lets hook it up. i want to travel to the oceanic
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