Yep, BBC is just as biased as any sucky american news source... Any story on BBC about the middle east is so biased in the anti-Israel direction, tthat its pathetic.

I dont think bush is going to win the election, unless theres a "voting" problem again

I don't understand your problem with the word rebel. It is an accrate description.

Are they not rebelling against the goverment to make a muslim Chechenia?

Terrorism is a tactic to achieve a goal by people who employ terror as a political weapon.

in the top right corner the white van is an ambulance
ppl helped best they could they took wounded in their cars to speed up evacuation...
there was around 1200 hostages ofcourse there wouldn't be enough ambulaces for each of them...

Instead of bitching about stuff u think u know from watching cnn just shut the fuck up and pay some respect to the ppl who died from terrorist...

You probably forgot how u behaved after 9/11 ?

Ok, but why they don't tell us that Osama Lin Laden is a Proud Fighter for Islamic Peace? Why they call him terrorist?

BTW the "rebels" you are talking about are NOT fighting for muslim Chechenya, bceuase Chechenya was, is and will be a muslim republic of Russian Federation in a same way as many others (Tatarstan, Bashkortostan, Ingushetia etc.) Russian Federation is a multi-religion country, so everyone there is free to choice practice ANY religion he want. Actually 90% of Chechen people don't want to live separately from Russia. They want to live in peace as other Russian muslim republics do.

BTW, 9 of killed terrorists were Arabs and 1 was black. Are they also Chechen "rebels" fighting for "independence"?

Yesterday I showed you that major Russian media call chechens as rebels too.

They never did that!

P.S. MSNEWS is not a major Russian media - be sure!

NEWS FROM RUSSIA
http://newsfromrussia.com/main/2004/04/04/53197.html
title: Defense minister Ivanov rules out pardon for Chechen rebel leader Maskhadov


MOS(cow) NEWS
http://www.mosnews.com/news/2004/08/02/chechen.shtml
title: Chechen Rebel Leader Promises Fiercer War


and that's the 2 first two queries i found, no doubt i can find zillion references.

What do you have to say about this? Bush to blame for that as well?

even from today's news

http://newsfromrussia.com/main/2004/09/04/55865.html


Commandos stormed a school Friday in southern Russia and overcame separatist rebels holding hundreds of hostages as ......

Here one of native major Russian media which has an English version: http://www.rbcnews.com/

BTW, be sure to bookmart the link above. It's really big and independent Russian media source.

and your point is? You hate CNN. FOX, Bush etc for using the term rebel while major russian medias even today use the same term. You also claimed that this never happed and I proved you wrong. I never doubted there are russian and other media that use the word terrorists.

Did YOU read these articles??? They were written before September 1. And they are really related to REBELS. But I'm talking about those bastards who kill the children yesterday! Half of them WERE not Chechens at all - they were ARABS. Can you see a difference?

and here's your reply:



separatist rebels

I do not saying I agree with the term (the opposite),but before starting blaming the western media, have a look at your local ones.

Please show me a quote where those child murders called rebels.

read above

btw gotta go,soccer started,ill catch with the thread later :-)

Actually I don't really think that newsfromrussia.com is a true Russian media. Perhaps its editorial team is located somewhere in the USA... I didn't even know about such a resource before your post.

We care about the slaughter in the Sudan by the muslims but the UN can do nothing because "France" and China will veto anything that comes up. So take it to the UN.

:(

What's your problem with the media, that they're calling them rebels and not terrorists? WTF?

They are rebel fighters, fighting against the massacre of over 40,000 Chechnian children and the occupation of Chechnya.

I hate CNN because that doesn't even make the news.

Here is a fact that you can not rely on any of the news stories when they first come out. You have to wait til they get the facts which takes time. The way things are run now he news is forced to run a news alert even before they know the story and they get a lot of things wrong...

Did you mean 100,000 Russian (not Chechen!) children that were killed in Chechnya during Dudaev's ethnic cleaning???

BTW, how many Japanese children were killed by Americans in Hiroshima? So according to your logic, Japanese people should start killing your children and we have to justify that? Right? Sorry man, but I can't understand such stupid position.

Did I say it was justified or did I say they were rebel fighters?

Who's stupid here? Learn to read.



<--I do NOT SUPPORT THIS SCAMMING, SHAVING PIECE OF SHIT PROGRAM.

lmfao, ignorance is bliss.

See, smart people don't assume things out of nowhere. Actually it's an 80 year old Russian newspaper that went online after being shut down at the end of communism in 1991.

So why did you write this: "They are rebel fighters, fighting against the massacre of over 40,000 Chechnian children and the occupation of Chechnya"???

Right, that's what they are.

It doesn't mean I agree with their killing of children, I don't. It means I know the story and their motives.

Let me guess, you think they attacked you on Sept. 11th because Bin Laden hates your freedom, right?

They did this because they're Chechnian separatists rebels. They want Russia to leave Chechnya. I don't agree with them but that's what they are. No sense in being ignorant and calling them Al Qaeda or some other bullshit.