I'm from Macedonia, if you ask the patriotic me, I don't like the stupidity of the average american.


If you ask the real me, then
- USA has balls, goes for it, unlike the EU pussies
- USA has power, and even in the democratic pussylike society defend's it's interests
- USA would've send the middle east to the stone age if it wasn't for the democratic BS. Just distroy the weak assholes that can't take care of themselves and take their shit, scum doesn't deserve to live. I don't exclude my country from this too!
- USA practices the only law of nature: survival of the fittest!
- The first europians that inhabited USA were people that I respect: adventurers, people that used to not give a shit, people that had the balls to go for it!
- USA offers great future for people that are tallented, people with a view for the future!
- USA created guinea pigs from the average shitholes that don't have a brain and exploits them in a good way - consumer cells!


IF you're a smart man, you have a great future in the USA once you learn to exploit the stupidity of the average joe!

I'm not an american, but working with americans teached me a lot! I don't like to be observed us a citizen of a certain "third world country" ... I like to be percieved as a citizen of the world.


USA what every country would like to be if it had the BALLS!


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The average "awaken" american is far more cool that any other person in the world. Why? Because it takes a lot to be a awaken from the system with so much stupidity and so much democracy!

Overall, I respect americans! Lots of cool people out there!


Sorry if this post sounds offensive, too big, or something, I won't re-read it, I'm under the influence of home made strong alchohol + beer :) :thumbsup

The last time I went to Canada I was not required to have a Passport and the same applies to Mexico. Yes...I was referring to the Armed Forces...and the US has troops stationed in more than half of the countries in the World.

I am talking about people leaving the country willingly, not meat shields going somewhere under orders.

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theking:

Much as I thought.

King... your government made "arrangements" with the host country to allow this.

It is not a "matter of course" that US people just travel where the fuck they like without a valid passport. They would be packed on the return flight back to the US - same as US immigration does.

Your comment that "Millions of Americans travel abroad without passports...and in the tens of millions have done so." is not valid.
Other nations do the same thing under agreements - this is not a "common practice" that puts US people above other countries laws.

With the exception of '3rd world' or really tiny island nations, there aren't many countries in the world where tourism accounts for more than 5-10% (often less) of GDP. America actually makes the most money from tourism. (so if everyone stopped traveling overseas, the USA would lose the most)

the rankings for income-from-tourism go:

USA
Spain
France
Italy
China
Germany
UK
...

I live in Scotland. My view of the US is that there's some crazy fucking people and even more crazy laws.

One which pisses me off is that until a couple months ago I could come to the US and buy a gun, but couldn't buy a beer. Thats just wrong!!

On the whole tho its a huge ass country with tons of places I'd love to visit. Top of my list is Miami, but not right now.

Then I wanna check out LA and New York.

It is immaterial what you are talking about. Tens of millions of Americans have traveled abroad without passports...and many of them have been in multiple countries...as have I.

Oh sheesh :glugglug

Sometimes it can be quite painful observing the way some folks try to come up the "words" and a "slant" on everything.... even embarassing...

No it's not, I'm sticking to the topic at hand and you are not.

Your point about the armed forces not needing passports is irrelevant to the discussion because they are not tourists.

I think that 5-10% falls withing my definition of "significant" and the smaller a countries GDP the more significant 1% or 2% becomes relatively speaking.

News flash they have days off and are granted passes and up to 30 day leaves. Of course they are tourists...they are not in prison.

Dimwit, we are talking about people WILLINGLY leaving their country as tourists, not an invasion force.

If you have no choice about it then you aren't a tourist.

theking:

No King - it is NOT IMMATERIAL :-)

The fact that you may not have needed to have a "paper passport" was simpley a matter of convenience arranged with a host country..

Your government signed a waiver on your behalf which facilitated this. Without that being in place - you ain't going to *any* country without a valid passport.

All that troop shit is not what we are talking about anyway - other nations do the same thing. It has nothing to do with folks visiting other nations as "tourists".

Hell.. I give up! He's too fucking stupid to absorb fuck all...


PS This level of idiocy that keeps coming up, is what makes me loose all fucking faith or any hope for the US people.

Actually if Bush gets re-elected I will loose all respect for every fucking american on this planet ... that will proove how dumb 50 + % of them are .

Oh fuck... we're on to his stupid 30 day pass "leaves" next..

Sad that is obviously the way you have seen the world King...

You actually got a passport or are you in the majority??

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Another fat ass american ...

How do I view americans :

A good part of them are good hard workers ...

another part are stupid ass mofos (especially ppl from the south) that don't know shit about politic / geography and history . All they want is their friend chicken and hamburgers and they will be happy

Many miltary personell are allowed to choose where they serve in the sense that they volunteer to serve in Germany...Korea...Japan...etc. They willingly choose to leave their country to serve in various places and of course while there...as I have explained they act as any "tourist" does and see what they find interesting within the country. Many military personell especially like to serve in Germany and from there they visit much of Europe. There are millions of them that have done so.

thing is, we know where the US are ... a lot of us know the states and everything ...

You don't learn shit about other countries in US school . The US is just really self-centered .

They use a lot of countries to make themselves rich and one day everybody will just turn their back ... you cannot live like that for ever.

Bush probably don't even know how to place all countries on the map and he's president ... he haven't been to europe b4 getting elected and such ...

You know, you're not the first person to mention this. When I was in Jamaica I was talking to a couple of the locals who worked the resort and they told me that they see as many nucks as yanks there, sometimes more.

It's not that odd when you look at it, though... the carribean is warm in the winter, and up here it's REALLY REALLY FUCKING COLD. We need to break up the chill with a little sunshine and surf. :thumbsup

about cell phones, there are still several places even in NY where it's hard to get a signal ...

Europe, china and japan are much more advanced for cell phones ... ppl barely use sms over there still ...

What a fucking troll ... how much $ you think the US make from tourism ? Grow up kid

Panky:

Just to enlighten you. Considering some of these places are US territory, I'd wonder WTF you need any ID for.

I think you better just check on some of the others that are not US territory - I'd hate to rely on you getting out of Panama with just a photo ID and birth certificate. At the very least you'd need a Touist Visa/card tho that is even questionable.

We are talking about "valid passports" - not some tourist shit to places like Puerto Rico.

Actually their are other countries that you do not need a passport to travel to if you are a member of the American Military...and are already stationed within a...let us say...European country. From your duty station there are some countries that your Military ID and Birth Certificate are enough to allow travel...there are some that will require a passport.

Don't feed the troll ... he's just dumb

im antiamerican you forgot lol :)

I am past my mid forties kid...and what the fuck does " how much $ you think the US make from tourism ?" have to do with any of my statements. :321GFY...kid.

Canada and mexico ... the 2 nearest countries . Try to go to europe or china without a passeport ...

rickholio:

Yep! Valid point! :-)

I remember when I lived in the Carib - it dawned on me that every place I went I was dealing with Canadian folks! :-)

Tho there were a good few US people - mainly on casino stuff (and quite often on the "wanted list" because of this) - but they were OK people!

It means : OFF COURSE other countries make money from US tourism . As USA makes money from forgein tourism too ...

This is not a good example . Remove 100 % of the tourism in US and watch the economy ... it would have an effect on it for sure .

I have been to several countries in Europe without a passport as well as the Mid-East...and the Far East and some in the Americas. I have also traveled to some of them with a passport.

theKing:

Who the fuck is talking about the "American Military"??

We "were" talking about "tourists" - you got military on the fucking brain king.

It that your extent of seeing the world??

If so, shut the fuck up and quit trolling. It was a half sensible thread till you crept in...

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He got brainwashed by the military ... here is the problem now ... that's why he's so much of a troll

Travel agencies here say :

Clearly state you are a CANADIAN when you arrive somewhere, not an american ... service will be much better

That give a good idea of what the rest of the world think about americans

My point is the American military is a significant part of "tourism" in many countries...and that is a fact...which you want to avoid for whatever...misguided reasons you have in your wee little Webby mind. FYI...I do not take orders from the wee little minded people on the earth...so no I will not shut the fuck up.

When you are in the army you don't need passport, one of my best friend traveled in many EU countries during army and didn't have to carry one, but that's a whole different case. Normal citizen is IMPOSSIBLE to cross european borders without a passport. It is supposed that EU members can pass borders by just showing their ID, but in many cases this doesn't really apply.

wow i typed all these in 10 seconds

theKing:

You just talk shit - I really can't be bothered.

If you want to play semantics with "tourism" and "service personnel" serving overseas, we'd be here all fucking night...

Other countries do the same shit - so I'd think that more than levels the amount of "US military tourism" (eh?) that goes on worldwide.

That is my point...he was in the Military...but when off duty...on pass...on leave...he was a "tourist". Millions of Americans have done the same thing. BTW...passports are renewable...and many that have had passports do not any longer have a valid passport so I assume would not be included in the 20% figure that was presented (assuming that 20% is a valid figure which it may or may not be).