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JSA Matt 09-27-2004 04:58 PM

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Originally posted by ronbotx
Ahhh if he is so pro gun, why does the nra HATE IS GUTS?

Uhm... because they are in bed with Bush..... I don't recall having semi-automatic weapons when the constitution was created?

Evil1 09-27-2004 05:05 PM

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Originally posted by ThunderBalls
You're right. We should have guns for sale in every vending machine and 7-11 in the country. While we're at it we should have a gun welfare program for those who cannot afford one. It should also be required that babies can not leave the hospital after birth until they are issued a gun. Damn liberals.
OK corky, what the fuck does any of that shit you just babbled have to do with kerry flat out lying? Read the fucking thread title. It's about arguments about kerry, I gave one.. if you cant figure that out have someone read it to you slowly.. if that fails i'll go hunt down a crayon font and spell it out in grade 1 level reasoning for you.. k?

ronbotx 09-27-2004 05:10 PM

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Originally posted by JSA Matt
Uhm... because they are in bed with Bush..... I don't recall having semi-automatic weapons when the constitution was created?
Perhaps we should go back to muskets?

Downtime 09-27-2004 05:13 PM

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Originally posted by JSA Matt
There is nothing that the Bush supporters can say about Kerry that cannot be said about Bush himself. End of story. Vote for whoever the hell you want to, it's your future.

ps: Downtime is a moron.

Why? Because I have different views than you? Gotta love these 4th grade insults, you're representing your side very professionally.

dustface 09-27-2004 05:13 PM

From Michael Moore

Monday, September 20th, 2004

Dear Friends,

Enough of the handwringing! Enough of the doomsaying! Do I have to come there and personally calm you down? Stop with all the defeatism, OK? Bush IS a goner -- IF we all just quit our whining and bellyaching and stop shaking like a bunch of nervous ninnies. Geez, this is embarrassing! The Republicans are laughing at us. Do you ever see them cry, "Oh, it's all over! We are finished! Bush can't win!

Waaaaaa!"

Hell no. It's never over for them until the last ballot is shredded.
They are never finished -- they just keeping moving forward like
sharks that never sleep, always pushing, pulling, kicking, blocking,
lying.

They are relentless and that is why we secretly admire them -- they just simply never, ever give up. Only 30% of the country calls
itself "Republican," yet the Republicans own it all -- the White
House, both houses of Congress, the Supreme Court and the majority of the governorships. How do you think they've been able to pull that off considering they are a minority? It's because they eat you and me and every other liberal for breakfast and then spend the rest of the day wreaking havoc on the planet.

Look at us -- what a bunch of crybabies. Bush gets a bounce after his convention and you would have thought the Germans had run through Poland again. The Bushies are coming, the Bushies are coming! Yes, they caught Kerry asleep on the Swift Boat thing. Yes, they found the frequency in Dan Rather and ran with it. Suddenly it's like, "THE END IS NEAR! THE SKY IS FALLING!"

No, it is not. If I hear one more person tell me how lousy a
candidate Kerry is and how he can't win... Dammit, of COURSE he's a lousy candidate -- he's a Democrat, for heavens sake! That party is so pathetic, they even lose the elections they win! What were you expecting, Bruce Springsteen heading up the ticket? Bruce would make a helluva president, but guys like him don't run -- and neither do you or I. People like Kerry run.

Yes, OF COURSE any of us would have run a better, smarter, kick-ass campaign. Of course we would have smacked each and every one of those phony swifty boaty bastards down. But WE are not running for president -- Kerry is. So quit complaining and work with what we have. Oprah just gave 300 women a... Pontiac! Did you see any of them frowning and moaning and screaming, "Oh God, NOT a friggin' Pontiac!" Of course not, they were happy. The Pontiacs all had four wheels, an engine and a gas pedal. You want more than that, well, I can't help you. I had a Pontiac once and it lasted a good year. And it was a VERY good year.

My friends, it is time for a reality check.

1. The polls are wrong. They are all over the map like diarrhea. On
Friday, one poll had Bush 13 points ahead -- and another poll had
them both tied. There are three reasons why the polls are b.s.: One, they are polling "likely voters." "Likely" means those who have consistently voted in the past few elections. So that cuts out young people who are voting for the first time and a ton of non-voters who are definitely going to vote in THIS election. Second, they are not polling people who use their cell phone as their primary phone.

Again, that means they are not talking to young people. Finally, most of the polls are weighted with too many Republicans, as pollster John Zogby revealed last week. You are being snookered if you believe any of these polls.

2. Kerry has brought in the Clinton A-team. Instead of shunning
Clinton (as Gore did), Kerry has decided to not make that mistake.

3. Traveling around the country, as I've been doing, I gotta tell ya,
there is a hell of a lot of unrest out there. Much of it is not being
captured by the mainstream press. But it is simmering and it is real. Do not let those well-produced Bush rallies of angry white people scare you. Turn off the TV! (Except Jon Stewart and Bill Moyers -- everything else is just a sugar-coated lie).

4. Conventional wisdom says if the election is decided on "9/11" (the fear of terrorism), Bush wins. But if it is decided on the job we are doing in Iraq, then Bush loses. And folks, that "job," you might have noticed, has descended into the third level of a hell we used to call Vietnam. There is no way out. It is a full-blown mess of a quagmire and the body bags will sadly only mount higher. Regardless of what Kerry meant by his original war vote, he ain't the one who sent those kids to their deaths -- and Mr. and Mrs. Middle America knows it. Had Bush bothered to show up when he was in the "service" he might have somewhat of a clue as to how to recognize an immoral war that cannot be "won." All he has delivered to Iraq was that plasticized turkey last Thanksgiving. It is this failure of monumental proportions that
is going to cook his goose come this November.

So, do not despair. All is not over. Far from it. The Bush people
need you to believe that it is over. They need you to slump back into your easy chair and feel that sick pain in your gut as you
contemplate another four years of George W. Bush. They need you to wish we had a candidate who didn't windsurf and who was just as smart as we were when WE knew Bush was lying about WMD and Saddam planning 9/11. It's like Karl Rove is hypnotizing you -- "Kerry voted for the war...Kerry voted for the war...Kerrrrrryyy vooootted fooooor theeee warrrrrrrrrr..."

Yes...Yes...Yesssss....He did! HE DID! No sense in fighting
now...what I need is sleep...sleeep...sleeeeeeppppp...

WAKE UP! The majority are with us! More than half of all Americans are pro-choice, want stronger environmental laws, are appalled that assault weapons are back on the street -- and 54% now believe the war is wrong. YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO CONVINCE THEM OF ANY OF THIS -- YOU JUST HAVE TO GIVE THEM A RAY OF HOPE AND A RIDE TO THE POLLS. CAN YOU DO THAT? WILL YOU DO THAT?

Just for me, please? Buck up. The country is almost back in our
hands. Not another negative word until Nov. 3rd! Then you can bitch all you want about how you wish Kerry was still that long-haired kid who once had the courage to stand up for something. Personally, I think that kid is still inside him. Instead of the wailing and gnashing of your teeth, why not hold out a hand to him and help the inner soldier/protester come out and defeat the forces of evil we now so desperately face. Do we have any other choice?

Yours,

Michael Moore

uno 09-27-2004 05:14 PM

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Originally posted by ronbotx
Read and learn.. He was STILL a Naval Officer in the inactive reserves:

http://www.americanthinker.com/artic...rticle_id=3778

OK, your link backs up my post. Thanks. He met them, he testified to that, then he went to try to get US POWs released. What an asshole.

JSA Matt 09-27-2004 05:16 PM

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Originally posted by ronbotx
Perhaps we should go back to muskets?
You clearly missed the point..... Downtime, you are still a moron.

uno 09-27-2004 05:18 PM

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Originally posted by ronbotx
Ahhh if he is so pro gun, why does the nra HATE IS GUTS?

Here is more..... from a non_NRA source.

http://washingtontimes.com/op-ed/200...0156-4833r.htm

:1orglaugh

You are going to link me to the Washington Times with a straight face?

Sun Myung Moon is a great guy. :thumbsup

ronbotx 09-27-2004 05:37 PM

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Originally posted by uno
:1orglaugh

You are going to link me to the Washington Times with a straight face?

Sun Myung Moon is a great guy. :thumbsup

If you say something this dumb about Kerry:

"He's also an avid hunter and sportsmen so I'd imagine he supports the right of citizens to own guns."

Then THIS is probably YOUR source of information:
----->>>>>>>> http://www.dvdtown.com/media/screens...mall/11011.jpg

AdnerAdvertising 09-27-2004 05:46 PM

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Originally posted by Rich
Bush says he's for secrity, but he's lying. When he's cutting funding to first responders, police, firemen, etc, how can he says he cares about the safety of the US people? He's spending 400 billion on an illegal war that's breeding terrorists who want to kill us, instead of spending the money at home on things like port security. Kerry will do a way better job making the US safer.

400 BILLION HUH?

WOW, you colossal moron -



http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&lr...nG=Search+News

Show proof next time you decide to post in your shack over there in Winnipeg. :1orglaugh

klik 09-27-2004 05:47 PM

50 flip flops

AdnerAdvertising 09-27-2004 05:50 PM

test123

JSA Matt 09-27-2004 05:51 PM

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Originally posted by AdnerAdvertising
400 BILLION HUH?

WOW, you colossal moron -



http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&lr...nG=Search+News

Show proof next time you decide to post in your shack over there in Winnipeg. :1orglaugh

I guess it depends if you can put a price on dead american soldiers... but 400 billion seems a bit high (for now, wait until after the election)

http://costofwar.com/

AdnerAdvertising 09-27-2004 05:56 PM

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Originally posted by JSA Matt
I guess it depends if you can put a price on dead american soldiers... but 400 billion seems a bit high (for now, wait until after the election)

http://costofwar.com/

Your cost of war link isn't even 3 times what Rich said. :1orglaugh

ronbotx 09-27-2004 05:57 PM

http://johnfkerrysucks.com/images/kerryflipflop.gif

TurboTrucker 09-27-2004 06:00 PM

So it's fine for a 'leader' to be indecisive? That's the opposite of what a leader is.

He has no plan, he has no vision. He is nothing but a huge puppet.

AdnerAdvertising 09-27-2004 06:01 PM

http://www.nojohnkerry.org/imagemedi...unch/kerry.jpg

JSA Matt 09-27-2004 06:01 PM

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Originally posted by AdnerAdvertising
Your cost of war link isn't even 3 times what Rich said. :1orglaugh
Who said it was? Once we invade Pakistan i'm sure it will be damn close to $400 billion :glugglug

AdnerAdvertising 09-27-2004 06:02 PM

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Originally posted by JSA Matt
Who said it was? Once we invade Pakistan i'm sure it will be damn close to $400 billion :glugglug
Uh read dumbass, Rich said that. :glugglug

AdnerAdvertising 09-27-2004 06:03 PM

http://www.shopmetrospy.com/graphics...4_PrSpare2.jpg

JSA Matt 09-27-2004 06:05 PM

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Originally posted by AdnerAdvertising
Uh read dumbass, Rich said that. :glugglug
Is your name DarkJedi?

AdnerAdvertising 09-27-2004 06:09 PM

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Originally posted by JSA Matt
Is your name DarkJedi?
Are you mentally defective? :321GFY

AdnerAdvertising 09-27-2004 06:09 PM

Here you'll see kerry sitting in he background behind "hanoi" jane fonda.

http://www.newsmax.com/images/headli...erry_arrow.jpg

JSA Matt 09-27-2004 06:10 PM

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Originally posted by AdnerAdvertising
Are you mentally defective? :321GFY
I knew it...

AdnerAdvertising 09-27-2004 06:16 PM

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Originally posted by JSA Matt
I knew it...
The only thing that is known is that your post was pointless.

AdnerAdvertising 09-27-2004 06:16 PM

http://www.gambits.com/politics/kerry-two-face.jpg

mardigras 09-27-2004 06:27 PM

It's amazing how many folks are so far behind in the news. The outsourcing of Heinz was done while Teresa Kerry's former husband, the late Republican Senator John Heinz was at the helm. She has token stocks in the company but has no say-so in it's operations. It is not her company, nor does John Kerry have anything to do with it.

AdnerAdvertising 09-27-2004 06:32 PM

http://mrgrumman.home.comcast.net/KerryOnTerrorism.JPG

AdnerAdvertising 09-27-2004 06:34 PM

http://richard.meek.home.comcast.net...QuizWhoAmI.gif

uno 09-27-2004 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ronbotx
If you say something this dumb about Kerry:

"He's also an avid hunter and sportsmen so I'd imagine he supports the right of citizens to own guns."

Then THIS is probably YOUR source of information:
----->>>>>>>> http://www.dvdtown.com/media/screens...mall/11011.jpg

If I recall correctly Moore is a member of the NRA.

Did you even watch Bowling for Columbine? Moore isn't anti-gun either.

And no, my information isn't from Michael Moore.

mardigras 09-27-2004 06:46 PM

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Originally posted by AdnerAdvertising

Nice gif repackaging all of the half-truths propoganda:glugglug
http://richard.meek.home.comcast.net...QuizWhoAmI.gif


uno 09-27-2004 06:47 PM

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Originally posted by mardigras
It's amazing how many folks are so far behind in the news. The outsourcing of Heinz was done while Teresa Kerry's former husband, the late Republican Senator John Heinz was at the helm. She has token stocks in the company but has no say-so in it's operations. It is not her company, nor does John Kerry have anything to do with it.
Shhh. Don't muddle things with facts and information.

uno 09-27-2004 06:49 PM

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Originally posted by AdnerAdvertising
http://mrgrumman.home.comcast.net/KerryOnTerrorism.JPG
I'm starting to think you and crowkid might indeed be the same person. I had hopes, but you haven't failed to devolve since last night.

mardigras 09-27-2004 06:50 PM

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Originally posted by uno
Shhh. Don't muddle things with facts and information.
LOL, like their Republican Stepford filters would let them see it in the first place:glugglug

uno 09-27-2004 07:00 PM

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Originally posted by mardigras
LOL, like their Republican Stepford filters would let them see it in the first place:glugglug
I'm sick of all the spin, its disgusting.

gideongallery 09-27-2004 07:09 PM

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Originally posted by JSA Matt
Uhm... because they are in bed with Bush..... I don't recall having semi-automatic weapons when the constitution was created?
they didn't have revolvers either.

I guess the only guns that count are muskets

AdnerAdvertising 09-27-2004 07:12 PM

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Originally posted by uno
I'm starting to think you and crowkid might indeed be the same person. I had hopes, but you haven't failed to devolve since last night.
Keep telling yourself that, I guess you are such an imbecile you don't realize I'm not the only one who thinks you are a total moron.... and on that note you can stick that "hope" up your ass. :1orglaugh

....... for someone who preaches so much about devolve, you sure do a shitty job of delegating. :glugglug

CET 09-27-2004 07:15 PM

I just find it obnoxious that Kerry spends all his time bashing Bush while not offering solutions. He actually agrees with a lot of Bush's positions, but he won't say that. His only position is to bad mouth Bush and that isn't enough to make someone presidential material. That makes him no different then the talking heads in the fore front of the "anybody but Bush" crowd.

ronbotx 09-27-2004 07:20 PM

http://www.upthehudson.com/FESTOON/KERRYGUN.jpg

"Hey, I know guns. This is how I won all my medals for bravery in Vietnam."

AdnerAdvertising 09-27-2004 07:21 PM

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Originally posted by CET
I just find it obnoxious that Kerry spends all his time bashing Bush while not offering solutions. He actually agrees with a lot of Bush's positions, but he won't say that. His only position is to bad mouth Bush and that isn't enough to make someone presidential material. That makes him no different then the talking heads in the fore front of the "anybody but Bush" crowd.
and the same thing can be said about Kerry...

Kerry complains about bills the president isnt getting passed through congress and yet he isn?t there to vote. Not unusual for Senator Kerry the lack-luster. :1orglaugh

He hasn?t attended one scheduled security meeting this entire year. How can a man who professes to be qualified to run the country do so without the necessary briefings from qualified advisors to learn what?s going on in the world?

He's been getting his intelligence reports on Iraq from retired Generals and old Clinton advisors who have no involvement in the war in Iraq and rely solely on second hand information. This makes the Kerry information third hand at best.


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