Well what the fuck else can we do, do you really think trashing them on GFY .Helps the situation.

if anyone should be explaining their comments, its you friend. you seem so confident in the face of this calamity that i've wondered a few times now if you weren't anything more than a plant to foster false hope in the webmaster community. you seem to swallow everything they spew out at face value, i take it this will be the first time you've been screwed by a processor? not me, i've been taken down by a few processors who screwed me out of thousands... lets see: transcharge, lancelot, globill...

btw, i don't even use iBill these days for anything, not since the Web900 burn they delivered a few years back... but i have *many* friends who are facing the possibility of being totally out of business over this. i feel for them, but everyone should be realistic. this isn't the first processor turmoil to crop up, surely not the last... i hope everyone gets paid, but i don't have any allusions when it comes to these operations..

:2 cents:

Facing the facts would be a good place to start.

ok the account rep called me back finally.

here are the details of the new service offered:

same % as before ( read 12-15% )
no holds and in your accoun the next day

now here are the descrpencies between the paper i am holding and what the rep told me ( yes the rep seemed confused and is calling me back )

they say " no personal garentees, that ibill will still be garentting it all"
the paperwork wants everything from your HOME and business address to drivers licences and socials AND signing on the line stating you sre FULL personal garentee

they say if you already had a merchant account you are automatically approved.

paperwork says you can be turned down

ibill still wants to handle all chargebacks and "customer service" although in the past customer service usually means them forwardiung a customers e-mail to me to sort out.

IMO if they pay us, and THEY drop the personal garentees it may be worth having as a backup sitting there gathering dust , but at 12-15% for your own merchant account you can get much better deals out there.

Facing facts ?what will crying achieve , except juicy reading. Its easy to be loyal when things are easy.

If they are doing all the back end and guaranteeing it , its worth it . Having a merchant account is alot of work, its not just collect the money. We had one for our clothing business., I have hold reciepts for over 7 yrs.

ibill, my rep has not gotten back to me yet with the answer, but chris mallics post reminded me


if you are no longer going to be able to process my account as an ISPS, are you going to release the Visa credit card information so that i can move it over to epoch or ccbill,if i dont want to get a merchant account with you, or are you going to hold it ransom and force me to get my own merchant account through you?

by the way, thanks for answering my questions earlier

Are the rebills actually portable? If Ibill wanted to, could they give/sell them to another third party biller?

of course, ibill wuold import them into the merchant account that you set up through them, they can do what they want with them

why would you even stay with ibill if you need your own merchant accout? fuck i would move to ccbill.

I guess you have not been reading the papers and seeing what is happening to the people who ran Enron and the other companies who screwed their shareholders. They would never get away with it.

I am very confident I will get paid. What would be the point in being a plant on a message board. I would not accomplish one thing.

The people running IBILL now had nothing to do with the web900 so to compare the management now VS then makes no sense.

Who the fuck are you ????

They said they still negociate the release of OUR funds. Shit ... How long this could be... It's fucking simple , they have only one thing to negociate...the release of OUR CASH. I don't talk english very well so I can't called First Data bank to have their own point of view ! But maybe someone here will be wise enough to call them ....Your have ligitimate rights to do it cuz it's all your money in there . Maybe they have another opinion then Ibill in this case !

i am wondering if IBILL is still paying there employees ?

but not there bread and butter customers!

REMEMBER THE CUSTOMER COMES FIRST!

Guy, signing a contract for new transactions to be processed through your own merchant account has nothing to do with the money owed to you. How about the royal assfucking they handed you with the First Data fiasco? No Visa for now? 12 to 15% for a merchant account you are responsible for in the end?

Fuckin' A people. :1orglaugh

Who the fuck do you think you are writing that to me? If you are looking for a fight you came to the wrong place. I will mess you up big time you cock sucker!!!

First Data would hang up on you. They would never talk to you.

The customer comes first is just plain bullshit and you know it. I would pay my employees first if I was in this situation.

Signing a contract. What are you talking about?

There's several reasons why that's a stupid idea. Stop and think about it for a moment.

Oh and...350 people screwed by yet another processor with problems :(

Well will see if there are any ibill employees left when it is all said and done - you must be one of them!

You would be wrong. I run several businesses and I would pay my employees before I would pay my clients if I was in this position. I would never be in this situation but that is another story.

well, i'll give you the benefit of the doubt then and assume you are just wildly optimistic, and cant resist voicing such in public to make it seem more real... as i said before, i hope everyone, including you, get their owed money. but, once burned..

That explains who you are : an idiot.

It is said so on:

http://www.ibillsucks.info/

I want you to understand this perfectly. You will never get hemorrhoids. You are a perfect asshole.

Here's an interesting question, ( to me atleast )

Say I DO fill out the new and improved IBill ( but Not IBill ) application for the merchant account, and get approved..

They will then run the "warehoused" rebills and such..

Since those charges are being processed on MY merchant account, and they are my customers, and my risk, does that entitle me to:

A.) Get the rebilling data ( i.e. ALL customer info, as I would if I had my own merchant account from the get go ),

and

B.) could I move that merchant account ( since it is MY merchant account, and I am the Guarantor on the account ) to a gateway of my choosing??

If the answer to both those questions or even one for that matter, is NO, then it is not a TRUE merchant account, yet you still would have the risk involved with having your own merchant account...

I'm just curious to an answer from IBill on this matter, since my "Rep" hasn't returned my calls, and hasn't "Been at his desk" as of late...

Just my :2 cents: worth, and I'm sure some will say I'm talking out of my ass.

Those are good questions and I am curious to see the answer from Ibill. Not that I would use them but I am curious. Why would anyone pay 15% to process through their own merchant account in the first please, just to keep their old rebills going?

Ahahah no.

iBill is going nowhere. to even speculate that is foolish. And when your prediction is wrong in 6 months I will be the first one to point it out.

Been hearing that processor going titts up shit for 8 years now.

And as for my post, I misread the notice, and after I posted I noticed my rebill info slowly being re-integrated into my stats.

I love newbs who predict the downfall of a multimillion dollar company over reporting problems. Funny shit.

Maybe I will make it up for your Hooters night and you can slag me to my face. See what kind of an ass whomping an ex Canadian cop can try and dish out.

For those sitting back, with a glass half full attitude, you might want to check to see if your rep is still employed with ibill, other wise your mail; both hard and electronic may be sitting in someones box unread. Just Found out that Linda is no longer a part of their team.
Mine, Michelle, "auto responded" that she will not be in the office today.

I hope this drama comes to an end soon.

Yeah, I have a sneaking suspicion, that mine is no longer there, after 3 almost 4 years of dealing with just him...

Oh well

my account representative is still there. Just got an email. EU Payouts should be made this week but its still a we try to pay this week not a we will pay this week....

Wait and and see....

how many sites do you have?
how much are you in the hole with IBill?

I am sure you can understand everyones questioning your validity since you are sitting at 60+ posts (*most of which are in this thread) - and standing so strong with IBill that it gives more than a reasonable doubt that you are more than just a good client of theirs who trusts what IBill says.

I hope your right - many of my friends who are owed thousands will be greatly affected and are already signing up with CCBill. What shocks me is that you promote yourself as a smart business man with incredible hope and belief that you will get paid by IBill - any good business man / owner in this industry will have a secondary processor as a backup or at least plan on "what if" after what happened to PSW and a few others.

are you putting all your eggs in one basket or have you considered maybe the idea of "what happens if IBill doesnt?" - as much faith and trust as you may place in them, are you prepared to loose your business over that trust?? and do you honest feel that someone who's lively hood depends on getting paid should be as bold as you and not cover their ass by signing up with CCBill?

Just spoke to my rep at Ibill.

From what they say there "May " be a $1,500 set up fee ( they said they may cover half of this as we have already paid for visa .. ) for the Merchant Account, You will not have Terminal access, You will be the guarantor! so Yes you can be TMF for this account causing any other account you hold to be TMF as well!

Good news, you MAY be able to get your user database from them ( if you are lucky ) and move that to another ISPS.

As per him, money has started to come into the account from First Data an they will start to distribute that as soon as today ( did not say how much or who to )

I do not care if you question my validity. I never put all of my eggs in one basket. I never wrote that I am fully committed to IBILL. I wrote that I truly believe that everyone will get paid. I do not think they are lookinging to fuck anyone.

I noticed that you keep pushing CCBILL. Why is that? The same thing could happen tho them that happended to IBILL.

As per him, money has started to come into the account from First Data an they will start to distribute that as soon as today ( did not say how much or who to ) [/B][/QUOTE]

That is very good news. I guess they are not looking to fuck anyone.

I do hope this is a fucking joke, what another $1500 so Ibill can piss it away. No fucking way.




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Not if that $1500 lets you unlock your database of X number of rebills.

even if you've got $2000 in a rebills, then it's worth it.

That is very good news. I guess they are not looking to fuck anyone. [/B][/QUOTE]

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...adid=367157&s=

Think again

It's going to cost $1500 to process VISA again through your merchant account. Use Epoch and CCBill