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jimmyf 10-02-2004 02:59 PM

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Originally posted by James Greuel
First of all, do you shoot in this biz? Second she showed up with unwashed hair that looked dirty, and stringy knowing she was supposed to shoot that night. Third, the Hotel room was two hundred a night, on top ogf her modeling fees, we had at best two hours to shoot that night and maybe an hour in the morning before checkout.

I could care less what she wore, but she could have at least worn clean clothes that were not ripped. Folks it's a job, mickey d's would have sent her home. I hired a person for a job, I expected them to show up ready to do that job.

That's the bottom line. After a week of emails, you would thgink... Ah hell, Mary D splain them for me what it's like.

James


I was told 30 or 40 years ago, Jimmy you start work at 8:00 am that does not mean you show up at 8:00 and get ready 2 start.

Liquid_cash 10-02-2004 03:08 PM

I dont understand why cant she bring a boyfriend? She doesnt know you from shit and like you say you want the model to feel safe so if she felt safe with him there then what is the big deal? As for the hair problem have you never heard of shampoo? As for the clothes you did have outfits for her? I would have thought with you being just a pro that you would have a decent wardrobe by now.

James Greuel 10-02-2004 03:09 PM

http://www.lowkeytx.com/Images/PantyG.jpg

Well, maybe getting her out of first in a bikini contest is silly, about as silly as this pic, but it makes more sense than spending eight hundred bucks to go to court to get my hundred bucks back.

I am somewhat silly at times.

J.

mary34d 10-02-2004 03:13 PM

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Originally posted by jimmyf
I was told 30 or 40 years ago, Jimmy you start work at 8:00 am that does not mean you show up at 8:00 and get ready 2 start.
exactly...no experienced model that i know has their hair or makeup done until they know what the photographer wants.

jimmyf 10-02-2004 03:19 PM

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Originally posted by mary34d
exactly...no experienced model that i know has their hair or makeup done until they know what the photographer wants.
don't you do some modeling ?

I have heard you have some unique talents:winkwink:

davidd 10-02-2004 03:20 PM

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Originally posted by James Greuel
Guys,
I am no newbie,

I had over a hundred fifty emails from this wanna be over the course of a week before I sent a dime.

The only reason I did was cause I did not want her getting raped in a bus station.

She said she was bringing her mom, she brought some punk who got in my face.

Maybe slapping her out of a bikini contest is not much, but that's all I want.

I'll let Karhma do do the rest.

James

I have a policy that I have implemented in my personal life. If you fuck me over, you get a webpage. Nothing hardcore, just the facts and I leave the final decision up to the reader.

Hopefully it will save someone else the headaches I have had to go through with certain individuals.

-dd

ListYourPorn 10-02-2004 03:22 PM

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Originally posted by James Greuel
Ready for some Drama GFY? Good, cause I would like to ask for a little help.

http://www.lowkeytx.com/Images/Jolenecathedral02.jpg

I hire a model on OMP to do a nude shoot. She wanted a Plane Ticket, an expensive Hotel room, to shoot in, and a few Bucks, along with copies of the stills and vid for her new site. So I sent the plane ticket, booked the room, and then instead of showing up at noon with her Mom ready to shoot as discussed. She shows up at the airport at Ten that night with her ghetto BF wearing his backwards baseball cap, who answers every question for her. BTW my name is not Look Dude.

Now, no way am I shooting her with this guy there, I wouldn't trust him around my camera bag. Not that the model is ready to be shot anyway. She had on a torn shirt, no make up, and her hair was all stingy and flat, like it needed a wash. Then, the loser announces that they can't ride in the brand new car with the other photographer (who was also going to hire her) and I to the Hotel. He wants cab fare (cash), and they'll follow us.

When I balk at that, the princess says I'm rude, and they stomp off to the cab stand. I calmly go climb in the car with he other photographer, and have him drive me home as I get on the cellphone, cancel the Hotel Room, and her return plane ticket. Thank Goodness I still had not given her the cash.

So, I made a post on a modeling forum telling the other photogs to look out. Bam, she posts that we were in a beat up old car, blah, blah, nonsense, and naturally a couple of kiss ass photogs who have shot with her join in, and everybody has a great day slamming me on that forum, and another one on a yahoo site that won't let me join. Naturally she won't give back the money for the plane ticket either.

So, here's the favor I would like to ask. There is a bikini contest at http://www.msbikiniworld.com/ and she is in first right now. Last month a latina girl beat her because somebody spammed all the latina groups on yahoo, asking for the vote (worked really well too) This month she's in first and I would take it as a personal favor if a few of you would go there and vote for this girl http://www.msbikiniworld.com/contestant.php?id=424242

All you have to do to register is give them an email to verify, so nobody votes more than once a day. The Bucci Twins are on there this month too, and you could vote for them, your choice.

For everyday that somebody other than the model with two first names is not in first place, I'll post some eye candy for the surfers. Or offer a content special for the folks here only!

Thanks for reading this, and here's a cute vid clip for you all to watch. http://www.lowkeytx.com/Vids/Tay1s.wmv

James

Dude contact me I have a load of Yahoo groups and will send a message out for you - webmaster at smithslookup .co.uk

219458592

James Greuel 10-02-2004 03:22 PM

Guys,
I have no problem with boyfriends or husbands. Unless they show up unnanounced, and then answer every question that you ask the model. I bought the plane ticket because the model said she was so poor she would have to take the bus.

As for the hair and make up, it was agreed that the expensive hotel room was so that we could shoot in it, as in that night, as soon as she got there. I don't know any models who show up needing a shower!

Her hair looked like it had not been washed in days. No, it was a scam, and so far I have had four other photographers in the last day contact me and tell me of similar experiences with this one. She won't last six months.

But thanks for the help guys.

Liquid_cash 10-02-2004 03:31 PM

Get a life bro, so she travels that far to an expensive hotel room ($200) and you dont think she is going to neeed to sort her stuff out and shower etc? You dumped her before you got to the hotel so you dont know what she was going to do when you got there. She maybe shy hence why her boyfriend was answering the questions. From the pictures that you have posted here you are a wannabe amateur who probably has a second job as you arent going to be making big money in 'any' industry let alone porn if you dont cut people some slack at times.

James Greuel 10-02-2004 03:40 PM

Liquid,
I have been making a full time living from this biz since 91. I was willing to cut some slack, I always am. But when I get played I call it like it is. The girl is not shy, and she is the one who stomped off when I would not cough up cash on the spot before she did any work. As for her appearence, the deal was she would show up ready to shoot.

Now I can understand make up, but not having showered at least? It's obvious that some of the recent posters have no idea what it's like to put up with some of the talent out there these days. Then there's the pros who are a joy to work with.

Bash me all you want, it won't change the facts. If you think she is all that you trying hiring her.

J.

Liquid_cash 10-02-2004 04:07 PM

James Greuel - A Translation


"blah...blah...bollocks....I booked a model late night so that she would have to stay untill the morning with a view that i could fuck her. Bitch turned up with a boyfriend so I fucked off and spent her fee on a cheap arse whore...blah...blah...bollocks...I am now goign to run her down on the boards in case she says anything that could damage my business atleast I called her a bitch first....blah...blah...blah..."

Pleasurepays 10-02-2004 04:10 PM

am i the only one that happened to notice that his photography sucks ass?

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

mary34d 10-02-2004 04:13 PM

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Originally posted by Pleasurepays
am i the only one that happened to notice that his photography sucks ass?

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

nope......

too much makeup on amateur models = crack whore effect

Pleasurepays 10-02-2004 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by James Greuel
Guys,
I have no problem with boyfriends or husbands. Unless they show up unnanounced, and then answer every question that you ask the model. I bought the plane ticket because the model said she was so poor she would have to take the bus.

As for the hair and make up, it was agreed that the expensive hotel room was so that we could shoot in it, as in that night, as soon as she got there. I don't know any models who show up needing a shower!

Her hair looked like it had not been washed in days. No, it was a scam, and so far I have had four other photographers in the last day contact me and tell me of similar experiences with this one. She won't last six months.

But thanks for the help guys.



ok, as someone that employes roughly 150 models full time in our own studios, i am going go out on a limb here and make the statement that you sound like a complete fucking newbie!

most models are flaky. thats a fact. 18 year old models are flaky to the tenth power and you sound like someone who has never dealt with models before in his life.

she needed a shower? and thats what you are bitching about again and again. Holy shit you stupid fucker.. you fronted money for a ticket when there was about a 5% chance of her even showing up and you are worried that she might need to wash her hair and you are criticizing what clothes she was wearing when she showed up?

just shut up and go away. you sound really innexperienced and dumb and your pics suck beyond belief for someone with so much experience for so many years.
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

mary34d 10-02-2004 04:16 PM

btw...$200 is not an expensive hotel....a least not in miami

Sly 10-02-2004 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Liquid_cash
I dont understand why cant she bring a boyfriend? She doesnt know you from shit and like you say you want the model to feel safe so if she felt safe with him there then what is the big deal? As for the hair problem have you never heard of shampoo? As for the clothes you did have outfits for her? I would have thought with you being just a pro that you would have a decent wardrobe by now.
From what I understand, many if not most photographers don't like "the man" being on the set. It's very distracting and can make her uneasy when the photographer needs her to look sexy.

James, it seems to me that the bashers in this thread have no experience shooting models, so I wouldn't worry about them.

Liquid_cash 10-02-2004 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mary34d
btw...$200 is not an expensive hotel....a least not in miami
but James said it was an expensive hotel at $200? dam I usually put my models in the park in a box.:1orglaugh

James Greuel 10-02-2004 04:23 PM

yeah liquid, you sure got my number. I spent ten years learning this business, been in it another 14, shot over seven hundred models and in all that time I have fucked none of my models. I have turned down more than a few though.

If your going to comment, read the thread first. The model was supposed to show up at noon with her Mom. The only problem I had with the boyfriend was trusting him around expensive camera gear. Like I said, if you don't know anything about this end of the business, you just don't know.

I would have turned down sex with the model, I was there to make two grand in 24 hours, that's what gets me excited. She would have made about half that, had she been serious about working. To some of us this is how we make a living. I get laid on my own time.

mary34d 10-02-2004 04:24 PM

he probably was mad, thinking the model was going to blow him, and now he no chance with her bf there

Liquid_cash 10-02-2004 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sly
From what I understand, many if not most photographers don't like "the man" being on the set. It's very distracting and can make her uneasy when the photographer needs her to look sexy.

James, it seems to me that the bashers in this thread have no experience shooting models, so I wouldn't worry about them.

I dont care either way if the model's boyfriend is on set. I have shot for Hustler and years ago when Suze Randalls was in the UK used to shoot with her. I have shot for Playboy, Penhouse, Hustler to name but a few. A photo shoot was supposed to be a photoshoot not an chance for the photographer to fuck the model. If she feels easier was her guy on the set then so be it. If anything it makes for better photos as she is at ease and not stressing.

edit - "I dont care either way if the model is on set." - must make a note it does help if the model is on the set!

Pleasurepays 10-02-2004 04:25 PM

100 shitty photographers.

Liquid_cash 10-02-2004 04:37 PM

http://gallery.adultlabel.com/tg/jackselite/001/11.jpg
This was one I shot which is one of Sylvia's first shoots.

http://gallery.adultlabel.com/tg/jackselite/002/01.jpg
Eva

http://gallery.adultlabel.com/tg/jackselite/004/15.jpg
My good friend Casandra

http://gallery.adultlabel.com/tg/jackselite/005/11.jpg
Anita

Obviously Mr Sly and James I am not up to your standard of photography.

Sly 10-02-2004 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Liquid_cash
I dont care either way if the model's boyfriend is on set. I have shot for Hustler and years ago when Suze Randalls was in the UK used to shoot with her. I have shot for Playboy, Penhouse, Hustler to name but a few. A photo shoot was supposed to be a photoshoot not an chance for the photographer to fuck the model. If she feels easier was her guy on the set then so be it. If anything it makes for better photos as she is at ease and not stressing.

edit - "I dont care either way if the model is on set." - must make a note it does help if the model is on the set!

Ah, just going on what I've heard. Guess different people have different rules.

Sly 10-02-2004 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Liquid_cash
Obviously Mr Sly and James I am not up to your standard of photography.
Nope, great stuff. I usually prefer that style.

mary34d 10-02-2004 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Liquid_cash
http://gallery.adultlabel.com/tg/jackselite/001/11.jpg
This was one I shot which is one of Sylvia's first shoots.

http://gallery.adultlabel.com/tg/jackselite/002/01.jpg
Eva

http://gallery.adultlabel.com/tg/jackselite/004/15.jpg
My good friend Casandra

http://gallery.adultlabel.com/tg/jackselite/005/11.jpg
Anita

Obviously Mr Sly and James I am not up to your standard of photography.

nice

emthree 10-02-2004 04:42 PM

You typed too fucking much

I cannot belive people who continues to convince people even after the story is told. boo fucking hoo

sltr 10-02-2004 04:45 PM

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Originally posted by mary34d
btw...$200 is not an expensive hotel....a least not in miami
don't be an idiot-

austin does not equal miami

James Greuel 10-02-2004 04:45 PM

liquid thats good work, but for my market it would not work at all.
The markets I shoot for are the opposite of that. It's not that I could not shoot that. But that's not the market I shoot for.

And I have no problem with boyfriends, I have several models I shoot with who I am happy to have along.

But take my word for it, if you had to put up withthis one, you would have had him escorted off the set, and cancelled the shoot.

Now don't tell me you never had that happen. Not if you have been doing it this long. Be honest.

James

Liquid_cash 10-02-2004 05:01 PM

I am to greedy to waste money so no I dont cancel shoots. i always managed to salvage something. I would have atleast got to the hotel. The thing with me is that I like buying models cabs, food etc. I like them to know that when they are with me they are treated like royalty. That way they always come back.

FTVGirls 10-02-2004 05:35 PM

OMP models are a waste of time; I never bother with that site to actually recruit. The ones who contact me there are not FTV material, and ask for way too much money.

Hey James Greuel, I know the Magic Moments/Promotions/VMC guys :)

Vendzilla 10-02-2004 07:13 PM

Well alot of people from here must be voting because your girl is a head, yeah I voted, she was better looking any ways!a

James Greuel 10-02-2004 10:37 PM

Hey Mr FTV
My biggest competition. LOL

Hey James Greuel, I know the Magic Moments/Promotions/VMC guys

so why don't you post that I have shot 70 solo girl vids for them, and my work is in 17 out of 25 of their best of editions?

More folks know what my condo looks like from the background than I do. LOL

Thanks for posting. And Thanks everybody who voted.

I really do appreciate it, and I am setting up affiliate programs for my new sites , and some of you will be hearing from me.

Some of you won't, .

hate the player, not the game

word

James

p.s. Has anybody seen the video I did with pimpadelic in it?

Paul Markham 10-02-2004 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by imageman

In the last year we have hired or tried to hire from many web sites that purport to be managers or agency's, i won't post names ( yet ) but the last 3 we tried, who had some excellent models didn't even have the business acumen to reply to our offers of work. These models are cute enough to work almost daily but with this sort of management i doubt they work one day a month ?

We found that a lot of these sites are only to get the girls to pay money to be submitted, they don't have some of the girls and no intentions of sending models.

Paul Markham 10-02-2004 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by James Greuel
Liquid,
I have been making a full time living from this biz since 91. I was willing to cut some slack, I always am. But when I get played I call it like it is. The girl is not shy, and she is the one who stomped off when I would not cough up cash on the spot before she did any work. As for her appearence, the deal was she would show up ready to shoot.

Now I can understand make up, but not having showered at least? It's obvious that some of the recent posters have no idea what it's like to put up with some of the talent out there these days. Then there's the pros who are a joy to work with.

Bash me all you want, it won't change the facts. If you think she is all that you trying hiring her.

J.

What ever you haver been doing since 91 you have not been selling pictures to magazines or videos.

Because the samples you have posted are simply not good enough. Which shows to me you do not know what is good and what is not and in 13 years shooting you would have learnt that.

Also your equipment is not good enough for a pro. More I read this more I smell BS.

Prove me wrong and post a link to your site and I will tell you how long you/ve been shooting.

This proves how long I've been shooting, crap stuff but WTF, it's still better than anything you posted.

Paul Markham 10-02-2004 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pleasurepays
am i the only one that happened to notice that his photography sucks ass?

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Nope, but how long did it take before all these porn pros spotted it, that's the saddest part of this thread.

Paul Markham 10-02-2004 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by James Greuel
yeah liquid, you sure got my number. I spent ten years learning this business, been in it another 14, shot over seven hundred models and in all that time I have fucked none of my models. I have turned down more than a few though.

If your going to comment, read the thread first. The model was supposed to show up at noon with her Mom. The only problem I had with the boyfriend was trusting him around expensive camera gear. Like I said, if you don't know anything about this end of the business, you just don't know.

I would have turned down sex with the model, I was there to make two grand in 24 hours, that's what gets me excited. She would have made about half that, had she been serious about working. To some of us this is how we make a living. I get laid on my own time.

You just confirmed it,

YOU ARE A WANNABE

I know more porn shooters than anyone here, real pro's who sell to Hustler, Penthouse, Playboy, Private, Wicked, etc. Not one of them could ever say they have never fucked a model. We create porn in a sexy atmosphere, we get turned on, the model get?s turned on, it happens. We don't force them because we don't have to.

My mate Bob Twigg was an assistant to David Bailey, he was told there are two rules he if wanted to keep his job, do not take pictures or fuck his models, that?s David?s job. :Graucho

Now look at all the shooters who are married to ex models, dating ex models or were ex models and taught by a shooter. Too many to list.

Do pornographers sleep with models?

Does a bear shit in the woods?

venus 10-03-2004 12:06 AM

whats the URL for OMP ?

Kevin2 10-03-2004 12:27 AM

voted :thumbsup

mary34d 10-03-2004 12:40 AM

wtf did this thread go to 3 pages

gwilkins 10-03-2004 01:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by venus
whats the URL for OMP ?
onemodelplace.com


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