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Fart 08-09-2001 05:00 PM

level3, verio and above.net kick ass with few hops and low ping times worldwide (not only US), and I always take care to be on one of these, no matter what the host is (well that matters as well)

As for ARS, their webmaster area and the tour pages aren't fast in europe, maxcash for instance is much faster, all the time, since years... I think they should move to a level3 host sometime.

Listen, Marc... http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/smile.gif

Lane 08-09-2001 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Equinox:
Can I colocate my 386 SX/16 with someone please ?

Oops, wrong thread... Sorry gentlemen, keep on talking. Ignore my ass...


my friend used to run a BBS from such a machine http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/biggrin.gif


Lane 08-09-2001 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Equinox:
Can I colocate my 386 SX/16 with someone please ?

Oops, wrong thread... Sorry gentlemen, keep on talking. Ignore my ass...


my friend used to run a BBS from such a machine http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/biggrin.gif


Lane 08-09-2001 05:02 PM

oops,

sorry for the double post

IE fuck-up

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Mango 08-09-2001 11:50 PM

If you can, hook up with a host with Level3 connectivity. Sure, it will be expensive. But your site will flash...

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Kimmykim 08-10-2001 12:18 AM

L3 is not that terribly expensive, but they aren't cheap either. One of the best things about them is their service. It rocks.

We have 2 gigabit lines pulled into the back half of their PHX datacenter and they were more than accomodating to our ATT and ELI lines as well http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/smile.gif

floridaT 08-10-2001 07:24 AM

Hey Fart. Like I said all ther tour pages will be here next Wed. Thats why their coming. We do have Level3 along with Digex, UUnet, Epik, Time Warner, AT&T. Have a good one.
As low as $150/meg

Xanobyte 08-10-2001 08:53 AM

Quote:

As low as $150/meg[/B]
Where is it Flor? It's certainly not listed anywhere in the price sheet for virtual or dedicated. Some sort of secret link to it? http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/confused.gif



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Xanobyte 08-10-2001 08:53 AM

Sorry about the double post - connection is sucking here today.

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whoreans 08-10-2001 10:58 AM

FloridaTs

Ya thats great you have all those links going into 1 cisco GSR.

nice redunancy... .. .

NOT!


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DaveOne 08-10-2001 12:46 PM

Likewhoa should sit down and go fuck themselves! 5 gigabits of bandwidth my a$$. They aren't even multihomed, no active bgp sessions. they have 1 gigE link to Level3, COLO'd, level3 doesn't fuckin sublease, and if they did why the hell would you sublease space from a soon to be defunct company in one of NY's biggest telco buildings(111 8th Ave) when theres 20 other carrier neutral providers (meet-me-rooms) to choose from. Pretty sad that they have to lie to try to drum up business.

From there web site:
"Like Whoa Hosting was designed by professional engineers from Foundry Networks and Level 3 Communications. We are powered by redundant Foundry Networks and Cisco switches from ground and up."

Redundant my a$$, they have (1) Foundry NetIron Layer3 Switch(not even a router)at the border of Level3 with 1 gigE uplink and 1 /24 IP address space (if they even know what that is). Pathetic! Redundant switches requires OSPF/HSRP(or equivelant) none of that is running.


Also, these "professional engineers" they have over there should learn how to run a DNS server. Leavin it wide open! $tupid$tupid$tupid:

likewhoa.com has address 64.152.7.6
noc.likewhoa.com has address 64.152.6.243
CTAC.likewhoa.com has address 216.66.64.197
hosting.likewhoa.com has address 64.152.7.6
workstation.likewhoa.com has address 64.152.6.250
bb.likewhoa.com has address 64.152.6.60
cisco01.05.2.likewhoa.com has address 64.152.7.4
vh1.likewhoa.com has address 64.152.6.110
cisco1.likewhoa.com has address 64.152.7.2
vh2.likewhoa.com has address 64.152.6.165
cisco.ph.likewhoa.com has address 64.152.6.9
mail.likewhoa.com has address 64.152.6.20
vids.likewhoa.com has address 64.152.7.76
blunted.out.in.a4.likewhoa.com has address 216.66.64.200
cgi.likewhoa.com has address 64.152.6.60
clubjenna.likewhoa.com has address 64.157.131.70
your.mom.said.likewhoa.com has address 216.66.64.210
cowboysurfer.likewhoa.com has address 64.152.7.130
board.likewhoa.com has address 64.152.6.20
cp.likewhoa.com has address 64.152.6.165
cisco.sc.likewhoa.com has address 64.152.6.8
content.likewhoa.com has address 64.152.6.60
box.likewhoa.com has address 64.152.7.6
ns1.likewhoa.com has address 64.152.6.7
foundry2.likewhoa.com has address 64.152.6.3
s55.likewhoa.com has address 216.66.64.201
ns2.likewhoa.com has address 64.152.7.6
foundry3.likewhoa.com has address 64.152.7.3
edge.likewhoa.com has address 64.152.6.200
stats.likewhoa.com has address 64.152.6.60
braincellz.likewhoa.com has address 64.152.7.194
xplaces2.likewhoa.com has address 64.152.7.79
cash.likewhoa.com has address 64.152.6.60
netsaint.likewhoa.com has address 64.152.6.60
paul.likewhoa.com has address 216.66.64.195
stuff.likewhoa.com has address 64.152.6.10
ecstasy.likewhoa.com has address 64.152.6.60
shurik.likewhoa.com has address 216.66.64.198
exodus.likewhoa.com has address 209.67.40.171
gw-likewhoa.likewhoa.com has address 216.66.64.193
audi.likewhoa.com has address 216.66.64.194
gw1-gigabit.likewhoa.com has address 64.152.17.50
gleb.likewhoa.com has address 216.66.64.199
hsphere.likewhoa.com name server ns1.hsphere.likewhoa.com
ns1.hsphere.likewhoa.com has address 64.152.6.7
hsphere.likewhoa.com name server ns2.hsphere.likewhoa.com
ns2.hsphere.likewhoa.com has address 64.152.7.6
design.likewhoa.com has address 64.152.6.20


Weee that was a fun waste of time. Had to fit it all in because i'm not going to bother to reply to these guys b.s. responses!

Bye for now-

Xanobyte 08-10-2001 01:39 PM

http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/eek.gif Damn! Elvis has left the fucking building!

Sweet bit of research there Dave.

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ElvisManson 08-10-2001 01:45 PM

What are you talking about....I'm still here

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Xanobyte 08-10-2001 02:05 PM

hehe... oops, wrong Elvis. http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/wink.gif

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Tukhman 08-11-2001 10:32 AM

DaveOne,

Do me a favor HOT SHOT, send me an e-mail with your information and see how quickly you'll be C&D'd just like the other cool person who claimed he had correct information.

I can't even step down to your level, it hurts my reputation even thinking about it.

And how would YOU know this kind of information, if I prove you wrong , will you take it up the ass from an elephant?

;-)))))

Tukhman 08-11-2001 10:38 AM

DumbAss with research...

Why don't we go and ask people who visited the NOC what we are powered by...

Yeah we have NetIron's, one on every rack, as well as Cisco's of similar type.

You are too stupid to even be on my level, powering the largest site through a NetIron...

HAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAA

FUCKING DUMBASS

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Tukhman 08-11-2001 10:43 AM

level3 doesn't fuckin sublease, and if they did why the hell would you sublease space from a soon to be defunct company in one of NY's biggest telco buildings(111 8th Ave) when theres 20 other carrier neutral providers (meet-me-rooms) to choose from. Pretty sad that they have to lie to try to drum up business
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Wrong Again!!!

85 10th Avenue fucker =)

whoreans 08-11-2001 11:31 AM

Quote:

see how quickly you'll be C&D'd just like the other cool person who claimed he had correct information.
what does C&D mean? hehe

DaveOne 08-11-2001 11:31 AM

haahaha you still only got 1 gig uplink to level3, and you guys were fuckin dumb enough to leave your SNMP communities open. $tupid $tupid $tupid.

You are SINGLY HOMED to level3, PLEASE EXPLAIN HOW YOU HAVE 5 GIGS OVER A LINK WITH NO ACTIVE BGP SESSION, NO ASN(AUTONOMOUS SYSTEM NUMBER). LET ME GUESS YOU GUYS HAVE 10GIG ETHERNET TO LEVEL3 ON YOUR NEW FOUNDRY NETIRON. haahah You guys are full of shit, so hey tukhman, go fuck yourself!

Peace from the east.
-DaveOne

whoreans 08-11-2001 11:32 AM

can i be C&D? http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/smile.gif

DaveOne 08-11-2001 11:34 AM

Like Whoa Duude... looks like they hired a new security guy! ha-ha-ha like whoa i'm amazed!

%host -l likewhoa.com
Server failed: Query refused
%


Kimmykim 08-11-2001 11:43 AM

"they have 1 gigE link to Level3, COLO'd, level3 doesn't fuckin sublease,"
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Tukhs right, you're wrong here DaveOne. L3 does indeed sublease. After all, we have the entire back side of their dc here in Phoenix.

sync 08-11-2001 01:49 PM

Who says we dont have an AS number?

Output from ARIN WHOIS http://www.arin.net/whois

Like Whoa (ASN-LIKEWHOA)
1122 Coney Island Avenue Suite #213
Brooklyn, New York 11230
US

Autonomous System Name: LIKEWHOA
Autonomous System Number: 21790

The only real way for you to check on our BGP session would be either you are our neighboring router or if you employ BGP yourself. In this case you are neither.

We do not use a Foundry NetIron as that device has too little switching capacity and not enough fiber ports. The cross connects from our layer2 switches are Fiber to our Foundry BigIron router. We use 1Gigabit Fiber Ethernet multimode SX connections to our backbone providers not 10Gigabits.

We use load balancers to manage our traffic so just because likewhoa.com appears to be on 1 Cblock doesn't mean that's our entire network. We host quite a few clients and we definitely could not fit them all on 256 IP addresses.

As for leaving our SNMP communities open that's not really possible as they have Access Control List on them and only priveleged IP's are able to get replies. You wish you had access to our MRTG graphs =)

Also how is it possible for you to test our redundancy protocol. Things like HSRP/OSPF do not have to be publically advertised, so unless you have access to our router there is no way for you to know. And Foundry supports their own proprietary failover/redundancy protocol that we ARE employing.

[email protected]#sh ip bgp
Total number of BGP Routes: 102252
hmm... can you say WHOA!

Tukhman 08-11-2001 02:24 PM

Kimmy...Thank you for the professional input, it feels good to have people who know what they are talking about... =)

Sync, that should sum it up... good job mano =)

Kimmykim 08-11-2001 02:28 PM

LOL Tukh, I've never felt the need to disparage the competition in order to feel good about our company http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/wink.gif

You guys have grown a ton this year with the hosting business and that's to be commended --

There are alot of good hosts out there (as well as a lot of shitty ones) and it's more than just price. Strangely enough I had one of our billing customers tell me yesterday that they couldn't get hold of their hosting support on the weekends... made no sense to me especially given the customer.

Tukhman 08-11-2001 02:33 PM

Kimmy,

Same way I see it... companies like Candid feel like they need to put competition down and fabicate information in order to show off the desperately low prices they have.

We indeed grew a lot this year, but grew not because we just offered lower prices, but because we worked on providing our clients with the best service possible. I remember when we started we had one tech on site, now it's totally different... support to customers is very vital to the success of a hosting company, or for that matter any company that is depended on their clients success.

I hope you are coming to NY in September or to see you in Miami/Vegas... and sign up for Sexcounter you might win a new car in january
=))

Ludedude 08-11-2001 03:10 PM

Damn...did someone piss on a fire in here?

LMAO

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DaveOne 08-11-2001 03:25 PM

the snmp communities have been closed for quite awhile, but anyway...

BGP routing table entry for 64.152.0.0/13, version 133015334
Paths: (8 available, best #6)
Not advertised to any peer
3356, (aggregated by 3356 209.244.2.241)
209.1.220.174 from 209.1.220.174 (209.1.220.174)
Origin IGP, localpref 1000, valid, internal, atomic-aggregate
3356, (aggregated by 3356 209.244.3.1)
209.1.220.66 from 209.1.220.66 (209.1.220.66)
Origin IGP, localpref 1000, valid, internal, atomic-aggregate
3356, (aggregated by 3356 209.244.2.186)
209.1.220.144 from 209.1.220.144 (209.1.220.144)
Origin IGP, localpref 1000, valid, internal, atomic-aggregate
3356, (aggregated by 3356 209.244.2.234)
209.1.40.63 from 209.1.40.63 (209.1.40.63)
Origin IGP, localpref 1000, valid, internal, atomic-aggregate
3356, (aggregated by 3356 209.244.2.74)
209.1.40.104 from 209.1.40.104 (209.1.40.104)
Origin IGP, localpref 1000, valid, internal, atomic-aggregate
3356, (aggregated by 3356 209.244.2.209)
209.1.40.51 from 209.1.40.51 (209.1.40.51)
Origin IGP, localpref 1000, valid, internal, atomic-aggregate, best
3356, (aggregated by 3356 209.244.2.209)
209.1.40.51 from 209.1.220.224 (209.1.40.51)
Origin IGP, localpref 1000, valid, internal, atomic-aggregate
Originator: 209.1.40.51, Cluster list: 0.0.16.125
3356, (aggregated by 3356 209.244.2.106)
209.1.40.79 from 209.1.40.79 (209.1.40.79)
Origin IGP, localpref 1000, valid, internal, atomic-aggregate

You guys aren't announcing any routes, You dont have to be on your router or a border router to see if any bgp routes are being announced.

Either way its all good... I haven't heard anything bad about likewhoa, i'm just saying you dont have 5 gigabits.

dont i get any thanks for pointing out insecurity? http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/smile.gif

Peace
-DaveOne

Tukhman 08-11-2001 03:35 PM

Getting dumber and dumber

I invite you to go ahead and call Verio, Level3, and AT&T tomorrow and ask them each what sort of connectivity we have from them.

Then add it up, see if you can count correctly.

The so-called "research" you provide is childish and only makes you look factual in front of people who barely understand what Internet is about.

Seems to me you have just learned the basics and already think you are a Guru.

You desperately want to see the MRTG graphs, I know, a lot of people do... but it's yet to be disclosed. Tell me how off-peak over a gigabit per second can be supported by a single gigabit line?

HAAHAHA... do me a favor, can you tell me how fast my connection from home is?
;-))))))

If you need a job in the unpaid marketing staff department, drop me an e-mail ;-)

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Lane 08-11-2001 03:39 PM

it looks like this the longest thread of the week,
not bad for a guy with only 10 posts http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/smile.gif

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sync 08-11-2001 03:54 PM

You have to do a little BGP homework. You are looking at aggregate routes so of course you are not going to see our individual routes in there. We are advertising all of our public /24's and /23's you just have to look harder. I am not going to disclose any further technical information as your claims are blatantly incorrect.

Xanobyte 08-11-2001 04:38 PM

You guys must all have really big computers with all kinda rams n stuff up in there... I'm still tryin' to find the "any" key. And what's with this footpedal anyway?

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Kimmykim 08-11-2001 04:46 PM

Will be in Miami yes, and always in Vegas lol (moving to AZ has spoiled me this year, it's only a 45 minute flight so alot of times we don't decide til the morning to go in the afternoon http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/wink.gif ) and I should be in NY that weekend too -- it's my birthday, so get me nice presents http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/wink.gif

x3m 08-11-2001 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Xanobyte:
... I'm still tryin' to find the "any" key. And what's with this footpedal anyway?

Where did you hear it from? http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/smile.gif When I worked in the computer retail, there were rumors that those lines came from actual customers. I worked for Circuit City Stores, Inc.



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DaveOne 08-11-2001 09:36 PM

hahah, no but i can tell your office is DSL from Lightning...


niggga whaa

DaveOne 08-11-2001 09:51 PM

If you guys have all these other links besides Level3, like AT&T for example...

For questions about this route-server, send email to: [email protected]

#################### route-server.ip.att.net ####################

route-server>
route-server>
route-server>traceroute www.likewhoa.com
Translating "www.likewhoa.com"...domain server (12.0.1.2) [OK]

Type escape sequence to abort.
Tracing the route to ns2.likewhoa.com (64.152.7.6)

1 white_dwarf.cbbtier3.att.net (12.0.1.1) [AS 7018] 0 msec 0 msec 0 msec
2 12.124.182.17 [AS 7018] 0 msec 24 msec 0 msec
3 gbr1-a80s1.n54ny.ip.att.net (12.123.1.10) [AS 7018] 4 msec 4 msec 4 msec
4 gbr4-p00.n54ny.ip.att.net (12.122.5.242) [AS 7018] 0 msec 4 msec 4 msec
5 ggr1-p370.n54ny.ip.att.net (12.123.1.125) [AS 7018] 4 msec 4 msec 4 msec
6 pos1-1.core2.NewYork1.Level3.net (63.211.54.65) [AS 3356] 4 msec 4 msec 4 msec
7 gigabitethernet6-0.ipcolo2.NewYork1.Level3.net (209.244.12.46) [AS 3356] 4 msec 4 msec 4 msec
8 POS11-0.ipcolo4.NewYork1.Level3.net (209.244.12.74) [AS 3356] 4 msec 4 msec 4 msec
9 gw1-gigabit.likewhoa.com (64.152.2.134) [AS 3356] 8 msec 4 msec 4 msec
10 ns2.likewhoa.com (64.152.7.6) [AS 3356] 4 msec 4 msec 8 msec
route-server>


hmmm From AT&T , goes through level3... you're not announcing any routes.. its ALL level3... keep comin with the b.s. and i'll keep knockin it down all day.


You say you're announcing stuff? I am just a newbie?

You're not announcing A SINGLE ROUTE:
route-server>show ip bgp regex _21790_

route-server>

hey wow, nothing shows up! But i forgot, I dont know what i'm talking about! Your brilliant Foundry Engineers that helped you design your "state-of-the-art" network must have implemented some new technology the rest of us haven't learned yet.

The only possibility left is that you're not announcing routes and you're doing private bgp neighboring for outbound traffic only, but you've yet to prove that either.

-DaveOne



DaveOne 08-11-2001 10:05 PM

Oh, looks like you use optimum online in good old Marlboro

yippie


Kimmykim 08-11-2001 10:54 PM

why on earth is this crap still going on...

whoreans 08-12-2001 12:32 PM

whoa =]

Techie Media 08-12-2001 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DaveOne:
hahah, no but i can tell your office is DSL from Lightning...


niggga whaa

Hey I sure hope your not referring to me???
My Hosting network is also at Level 3 I'am at the McLean Virginia facility and have our own gig pipe. I have nothing to do with Like Whooas network. But Like whooa is a killer Host, and they are some of the best people in the hosting business. Yes I'am good friends with them, thats because they are some great people, and offer a top notch service.


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