They will sue every program or what ?

I didn't really summarize it, as you can see from my first post I'm asking if anyone has an understanding of what sets this patent apart from the systems used by most affiliate programs. As I said I see the specifics or "keys" you're talking about, but as of right now I do not understand which of them is unique. More explanation from your side would be super, but I'm not expecting it.

Larry Flynt just called. Hustler will settle:2 cents:

lol

Epic Cash has already sent them a check.

:1orglaugh

I may be wrong. Someone else mentioned it, it sounds like dollars.com may be infringing on this.

I think the ibill stress has fried my brain. I can't make any sense of this VERY SPECIFIC patent. I'm looking forward to the translation.

You should start sueing soon. We need some action on GFY :glugglug

:321GFY

I loved this part:

"Considering our tremendous respect for intellectual property rights, it is very gratifying to receive this type of acknowledgement from the Patent and Trademark Office," Landau said in a statement. "

Respect?

Sorry guys, there is already a lot of software out there that does this. Your about ten years too late. You can't fucking patent an idea.

I'm not hearing many answers outside read the patent. Lets hear more about the specifics of the specificaly written patent.
Is having a affiliate program at all, in violation? Is there a specific script or algorythm that is patented? Percentage of difference do have to have in my program to make me compliant?

please do not ask whether particular programs are infringing, as i will not answer any such questions.

please read/evaluate the patent. there are some specific non-legal examples in the patent that webmasters will find easy to grasp starting at page 19 column 2 of the pdf.

please remember that this not a predatory patent, so any comparisons to acacia are a bit naive and reflexive.

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XPays Principals Awarded U.S. Patent For Internet Based Affiliate Pooling


San Francisco, October 14, 2004 -- XPays Inc. (www.XPays.com) is
pleased to announce that the United States Patent & Trademark Office
has issued U.S. Patent No 6,804,660, covering XPays' innovative
affiliate pooling technology which enables Virtual Affiliate?
advertising on the Internet. XPays principals Evan Horowitz and
Michael Landau have previously assigned their invention to their
sister company Essociate Inc. (www.Essociate.com).


"The originality of our affiliate pooling technology is confirmed by
the issuance of our first patent, and the continued growth of our
business validates the strength of the model," said Horowitz, CEO and
co-founder of XPays and Essociate. "This patent is indicative of the
foresight and innovation necessary to develop a unique affiliate
advertising network within a complex and dynamic industry. After our
initial launch in 1998, XPays endeavored to diversify its affiliate
program in mid-1999 and soon after Affiliate Pooling became the core of the XPays system."


"Considering our tremendous respect for intellectual property rights,
it is very gratifying to receive this type of acknowledgemnt from the
Patent and Trademark Office," added Landau, CTO and co-founder of both
companies.


XPays is an industry leader in the competitive performance-based
Internet advertising market, bringing together a variety of online
merchants and affiliates using the patented Affiliate Pooling model.
XPays currently partners with more than 12,000 affiliates, offering a
variety of merchants' goods and services to promote. By providing an
evolving set of tools for affiliates and merchants to combine their
resources via the XPays model, merchants have increased their brand
awareness and affiliates have profited from a stable and competitive
revenue source.


More information on U.S. Patent 6,804,660 is located at
<http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-P...number=6804660> or a
PDF may be downloaded from
<http://essociate.com/patents/US6804660.pdf>.

51 new patents

only in america...
u guys gone nuts with your patents and suing.

We just did.

"Advantageously, the present invention allows groups of Webmasters to participate in existing Merchant affiliate systems without the need of joining those Merchant affiliate systems"

"An invention is disclosed for Internet based affiliate pooling across existing affiliate system boundaries."

No, I think you have a responsbilty to imform us. Why not just post some of your "non_legal examples" here instead of playing games.

Tell us how this might effect us. If you are so proud of it, why not share it.. unless of course you are not wanting us to know. After all the Acacia BS the last think we need is our chain jerked

:(

I would love to agree with you but patents have gotten out of hand. Someone explain to me how Amazon's 1-click purchasing system could be patented? They simply took the cookie system and applied it to online purchasing. Or how about Microsoft's double click patent. I really would love to see patent reform.

WG

I think the DMT portfilio of patents hold more weight than this :)

:thumbsup you are on the right track

Sounds like the xpays - ars set up. One company pooling a number of websites (owned by various owners) and being in control of all advertising to those sites.

Evan am I getting warmer?

even if you submitted this patent 3 years ago

there's a lot of "prior art" out there dating back to the late 90's

I can fell the heat, keep going :thumbsup

Another company I won't do business with... not that they convert anyways.

our invention date was may 1999, which is usually considered an early invention date

That's the easy part, enforcing it will be the fun part. :winkwink:

I'm more inclined to believe in a dynamic marketplace where affiliates and merchants can interact and the marketplace selects the creatives based on which creatives perform best. A recent skinning of GFY comes to mind here...

WG

It's a patent for affiliate shaving. From now on the majority of PPS would have to pay fees to Xpays.

That makes more sense to me. thanks :thumbsup

we have paid out tens of millions of dollars and our program is commercially viable and growing.

http://www.cj.com/index.jsp
omain Name: CJ.COM

Created on..............: Wed, Feb 24, 1999
Expires on..............: Tue, Feb 24, 2009
Record last updated on..: Mon, Sep 13, 2004

Predates the patent filing date i believe :)

Yeah... sometimes I'm really glad that I'm in Europe... actually more than sometimes :winkwink:

I'll take ND, TCG, and Ox over this program anyday.

not one of our affiliates ignores which creative performs in deciding how to participate in the marketplace

and is not the same invention

Fuck. I guess you can patent almost anything. With that, I'm going to patent autoerotic stimulation.


Every time you jerk off, you owe me $10.

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glad to see this finally went through. congrats evan.

in the microsoft deal???

Thanks Airek! Most appreciated!

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