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Oh and 50 :glugglug |
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Yep, thats the truth |
I think what it basically gets down to is this.
If Mike Tyson could hit BL, he's done for. IF Tyson can't connect at all with BL, then Tyson's done for. Mainly because I think both have the "power" to disable the other person within one punch/technique/whatever you want to call it. I could be wrong. |
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I've never seen a martial arts person in a street fight, so I don't even know if that stuff works all that well in reality. |
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With that said... who are you leaning towards? :winkwink: |
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lol yeah try fighting a animal on steroids
come on people I dont care what karate shit who knows, when you fight somneone with tons of rage its hard to win |
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Lee:glugglug
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BJJ came from the original jiu jitsu. Judo also came from the original jiu jitsu, and is the softcore version specifically developed for competing instead of real fighting. |
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Alexandr Karelin in his prime would have killed both Tyson and Lee at the same time.
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bruce lee would make tyson look like richard simmons
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no question....first of all tyson could NEVER land a punch on him. he misses enough with other slow 220 pounders, he could never hit a target that moved with that kind of speed and agility. second, Lee has proven himself and dropped fighters in the past that were WAY tougher that Tyson could ever dream of being.
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Bruce Lee for sure
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Whats all the hype with the Gracie's ? Royce in his prime still would get owned by the Nog brothers, he only pulled of that many submissions because fighters back then had no clue on how to defend submissions. Even Sak "The Gracie Hunter" took each one of them out! |
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Kazushi Sakuraba Is my all time favourite MMA fighter :D |
Bruce Lee for sure:thumbsup
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Jujutsu is the father art of Judo, Correct, but BJJ was based on a form of Judo. Anyways all I'm saying is it came from JAPAN. They just modified it. |
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In 1914 a Japanese Judo and jiu-jitsu master named Mitsuo Maeda (called Count Koma) came to Brazil. In return for help from the Brazilian politician Gastao Gracie, Koma taught jiu-jitsu to Gastao's son Carlos. Carlos in turn taught his brothers (most notably Helio). They went on to further refine the art via constant no-rules competition, developing what is now known as Gracie Jiu-Jitsu http://bjj.org/ |
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At this point, the base of techniques in BJJ was similar to those in Kano's Judo academy in Japan. As the years progressed, however, the brothers (notably Carlos and Helio) and their students refined their art via brutal no-rules fights, both in public challenges and on the street. Particularly notable was their willingness to fight outside of weight categories, permitting a skilled small fighter to attempt to defeat a much larger opponent. |
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Wow alot of opinions here. Is The Ultimate Fighting Challenge still on ? Remeber Hoyce Gracie ?
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Fighting is 90% mental and 10% physical. Rage doesn't help. |
boxing vs jeet kune do ?
jeet kune do for sure :glugglug |
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Death Cause: Heart Attack |
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Bruce Lee
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IN the ring, Tyson. On the street, Bruce.
Oh, and a 180lb Frank Shamrock in his prime would destroy Rickson in his prime. |
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True, but he was also a Judo master. "In 1914 a Japanese Judo and jiu-jitsu master named Mitsuo Maeda (called Count Koma)" then we have.... "At this point, the base of techniques in BJJ was similar to those in Kano's Judo academy in Japan." |
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UFC is still here, but you should really check out PRIDE.... Awesome match up comming out Wanderlei Silva (Brazil) Vs Quinton Jackson (USA) for the middle weight belt... On October 31st, can watch it? TIVO it!!!! it's on PPV btw. |
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You do not know your history about Kung Fu... You are correct it is now more fo a Dancing art (depends what art). But back in the 1860's or later (don't quote me on this but it was around there) it was a very effective Martial Arts for selfdefense. Back then the king wanted to make the civilans happy, and did not want to lose his reign as king (fear that the rebels might over thrown him, ordered to have them killed and run out of china.... Think about it, that is why it's not as effective. |
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This is the funniest shit I read in this thread.... :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh btw, he might come out of retiremnet. I would like him to face someone like SAK for Saku's last match. |
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Do you have any idea who Rickson is and his track record? Compared to Frank? Frank is a awsome fighter, don't get me wrong. But the ora of Rickson is not comparable. Rickson is undefeted in MMA. Was paid a million per match the last two bouts (that is A LOT in MMA) and on the streets and other BJJ competitions his record is surpreme. |
Rickson Gracie. Read up...
http://rickson.com/frame_history.html 400-0-0 on the streets, and other competitions :glugglug and a undefeated MMA record.... :glugglug |
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