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WWC 10-15-2004 10:10 PM
Bruce Lee...but if Mike gets 1 hit.....my pal Bruce become sushi :1orglaugh

slavdogg 10-15-2004 10:49 PM
How can you guys say Tyson
tyson is not a bare knucke fighter,
even if Bruce Lee using only his hands would knock tyson out faster than he could blink.
Tyson is heavyeight figher, makes him very slow

Didnt any of you see the first UFC ??
boxer v martial artist

dig420 10-15-2004 10:56 PM
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Originally posted by WarChild

In short I basically agree with you with the caveat that a really good striker with basic knowledge of ground defense is a better street fighter in my books than a pure ground fighter. Most fights I've been in over my lifetime have been over in seconds. It's not like you can lay around in the guard for 20 minutes outside of a club waiting for that big choke.
yes there's something to this no doubt, being a good striker is a good way to get it over with quickly BUT it leaves you open to getting hit yourself. It's easier for someone to get lucky throwing punches than grappling. A really good grappler (someone better than me) won't take 20 minutes to exploit something on an untrained guy though, more like 20 seconds. They don't wait for you to fall into something, they PULL you into something.

Vitasoy 10-15-2004 11:55 PM
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Originally posted by dig420
[B]Bruce Lee was a good actor, but he studied Kung Fu.

It turns out, KF is just about worthless in a real fight.

ergo, Bruce Lee isn't that tough. There are thugs on this board that could kick his ass. Get a clue people.

He did not just learn KF, he was open to learning many different arts... If BJJ was available, I'm sure he'd learn that as well.

Hence in the MMA scene he is like the God father that started the revolution...

Vitasoy 10-15-2004 11:58 PM
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Originally posted by AdultLoungeRaffi
Bruce Lee...but if Mike gets 1 hit.....my pal Bruce become sushi :1orglaugh

Very true, that is why anything can happen in a fight. One good shot you can say nighty night.

Ironhorse 10-16-2004 12:03 AM
Bruce wouold dance around Mike like a butterfly sting him like KungFu scorpion..good fight to watch though..

dig420 10-16-2004 12:04 AM
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Originally posted by Vitasoy
He did not just learn KF, he was open to learning many different arts... If BJJ was available, I'm sure he'd learn that as well.

Hence in the MMA scene he is like the God father that started the revolution...
No, that would be Helio Gracie, the fighter. Bruce Lee was an actor.

Vitasoy 10-16-2004 12:25 AM
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Originally posted by dig420
No, that would be Helio Gracie, the fighter. Bruce Lee was an actor.

I disagree, Bruce Lee was not just an actor. And BBJ came from Judo.. They just perfected/modified it.

Downtime 10-16-2004 12:26 AM
Bruce Lee easily. Although total respect for Tyson; but Bruce Lee would rape him.

VeriSexy 10-16-2004 12:43 AM
Tyson would win for sure i fhe got a punch on Bruce Lee. I am even sure this guy would kick Bruce Lees ass. Kung Fu Solider :thumbsup

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SGS 10-16-2004 01:43 AM
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Originally posted by mahoney
Mike Tyson vs Bruce Lee. Who would win ?
Don King by a mile :2 cents:

Oh and 50 :glugglug

BoNgHiTtA 10-16-2004 01:48 AM
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Originally posted by SGS
Don King by a mile :2 cents:


Yep, thats the truth

Arousal Design 10-16-2004 02:06 AM
I think what it basically gets down to is this.

If Mike Tyson could hit BL, he's done for.

IF Tyson can't connect at all with BL, then Tyson's done for.

Mainly because I think both have the "power" to disable the other person within one punch/technique/whatever you want to call it.

I could be wrong.

Drake 10-16-2004 02:11 AM
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Originally posted by Arousal Design
I think what it basically gets down to is this.

If Mike Tyson could hit BL, he's done for.

IF Tyson can't connect at all with BL, then Tyson's done for.

Mainly because I think both have the "power" to disable the other person within one punch/technique/whatever you want to call it.

I could be wrong.
That's exactly right. So it's a toss-up.

I've never seen a martial arts person in a street fight, so I don't even know if that stuff works all that well in reality.

Vitasoy 10-16-2004 02:15 AM
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Originally posted by Arousal Design
I think what it basically gets down to is this.

If Mike Tyson could hit BL, he's done for.

IF Tyson can't connect at all with BL, then Tyson's done for.

Mainly because I think both have the "power" to disable the other person within one punch/technique/whatever you want to call it.

I could be wrong.

With that said... who are you leaning towards? :winkwink:

Nicky 10-16-2004 02:19 AM
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Originally posted by WWC - Jimmy
Bruce Lee would dance around Mike like a butterfly. However, one lucky punch from Mike would just about send the green hornet back into his grave...
yea thats about it.....it could go both ways......

EscortBiz 10-16-2004 02:49 AM
lol yeah try fighting a animal on steroids

come on people

I dont care what karate shit who knows, when you fight somneone with tons of rage its hard to win

WarChild 10-16-2004 03:17 AM
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Originally posted by EscortBiz
lol yeah try fighting a animal on steroids

come on people

I dont care what karate shit who knows, when you fight somneone with tons of rage its hard to win
Rage is a distraction. The best fighters don't "rage", they calmy pick their opponents apart. :2 cents:

Kicker 10-16-2004 03:23 AM
Lee:glugglug

Libertine 10-16-2004 03:34 AM
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Originally posted by Vitasoy
I disagree, Bruce Lee was not just an actor. And BBJ came from Judo.. They just perfected/modified it.
:eek7

BJJ came from the original jiu jitsu. Judo also came from the original jiu jitsu, and is the softcore version specifically developed for competing instead of real fighting.

Sebo de Macho 10-16-2004 03:57 AM
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Originally posted by stocktrader23
Bruce Lee. What kind of silly question is that.

800lb woman vs a ham sandwich, who would win?
:banana I won!!!

Buff 10-16-2004 04:19 AM
Alexandr Karelin in his prime would have killed both Tyson and Lee at the same time.

robfantasy 10-16-2004 04:20 AM
bruce lee would make tyson look like richard simmons

steve90 10-16-2004 05:09 AM
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Originally posted by stocktrader23
Bruce Lee. What kind of silly question is that.

800lb woman vs a ham sandwich, who would win?
how big of a ham sandwich are you talkin about ?

WebTitan 10-16-2004 06:38 AM
no question....first of all tyson could NEVER land a punch on him. he misses enough with other slow 220 pounders, he could never hit a target that moved with that kind of speed and agility. second, Lee has proven himself and dropped fighters in the past that were WAY tougher that Tyson could ever dream of being.

CCdoug 10-16-2004 08:08 AM
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Originally posted by dig420
Rickson by armbar
:thumbsup

CCdoug 10-16-2004 08:12 AM
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Originally posted by dig420
free knowledge for you:

Bruce Lee gets his ass kicked by almost any BJJ Blue Belt. Let alone Mike Tyson.
Pretty sure that Bruce trained on the ground aswell as his stand up.

Manowar 10-16-2004 08:22 AM
Bruce Lee for sure

CCdoug 10-16-2004 08:23 AM
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Originally posted by dig420
first off, Shamrock outweighs Royce by about 50 lbs. Or more. And Royce tapped his ass out in their first fight and Shamrock held on for dear life and fought for a draw in their second. And Shamrock is a real live world-class fighter in legitimate and proven fighting arts, as opposed to an actor who studies a useless system and never did more than get in a few backyard scraps.

Second, there are plenty of 'real' strikers in MMA, always have been. Art Jimmerson was in the first UFC. The reason boxers get their clocks cleaned is because they can't fight on the ground. Also, you don't need the punching power of Mike Tyson to be a good striker in MMA because they're basically using their bare hands, and you don't have to hit like Tyson to knock a man out with your naked fist.

Botha got fucked up in K-1, let alone trying to compete in UFC.

Here's what the UFC is, for those who've never heard of it. All styles allowed, mano a mano, and the last one standing is the cock of the walk. For the first three years, until everybody started learning BJJ, Royce Gracie - 170 lbs - tapped out everybody, all sizes, from all other martial arts. If they hadn't started using BJJ, he'd be doing it to this day.

All the Gracies did was fight anyone and everyone and never NEVER lose until people started fighting like the Gracies. You people who still think Nin-Jitsu, Pressure Point Fighting and Kung-Fu work are no better than flat-earthers.

The question isn't in debate, it's been settled for anyone paying attention. Ground Fighters beat stand-up fighters. EVERYBODY beats Kung Fu fighters. If you don't have submissions in your game, a submission fighter is going to whip your ass.

BJJ, Muay Thai, Sambo and Wrestling if you learn some BJJ submissions are about the only things that work in real life. He who has ears (and eyes and an internet connection and can read english) let him hear.

Everybody else go on waiting for Santy Claus to come down the chimney :1orglaugh

Whats all the hype with the Gracie's ?

Royce in his prime still would get owned by the Nog brothers, he only pulled of that many submissions because fighters back then had no clue on how to defend submissions.

Even Sak "The Gracie Hunter" took each one of them out!

fuelcell 10-16-2004 10:30 AM
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Originally posted by jade_dragon
In the ring, Tyson. Bruce based a lot of Jeet Kun Do on western boxing technique and said that boxers were the king of the ring. Lee was asked once if he thought he could take Ali and he said no way and that Ali would murder him, something along the lines of "look at the size of his hands"

On the streets then it would be a lot closer but with combat rules like those in K1 Bruce would not do as well as you think.
good answer

Vitasoy 10-16-2004 10:42 AM
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Originally posted by CrazyJ


Even Sak "The Gracie Hunter" took each one of them out!

Kazushi Sakuraba Is my all time favourite MMA fighter :D

NichePay_Manny 10-16-2004 10:45 AM
Bruce Lee for sure:thumbsup

neverlearn 10-16-2004 10:49 AM
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Originally posted by fuelcell
good answer
yup

Vitasoy 10-16-2004 10:51 AM
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Originally posted by punkworld
:eek7

BJJ came from the original jiu jitsu. Judo also came from the original jiu jitsu, and is the softcore version specifically developed for competing instead of real fighting.

Jujutsu is the father art of Judo, Correct, but BJJ was based on a form of Judo. Anyways all I'm saying is it came from JAPAN. They just modified it.

Vitasoy 10-16-2004 10:54 AM
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Originally posted by punkworld
:eek7

BJJ came from the original jiu jitsu. Judo also came from the original jiu jitsu, and is the softcore version specifically developed for competing instead of real fighting.


In 1914 a Japanese Judo and jiu-jitsu master named Mitsuo Maeda (called Count Koma) came to Brazil. In return for help from the Brazilian politician Gastao Gracie, Koma taught jiu-jitsu to Gastao's son Carlos. Carlos in turn taught his brothers (most notably Helio). They went on to further refine the art via constant no-rules competition, developing what is now known as Gracie Jiu-Jitsu


http://bjj.org/

Vitasoy 10-16-2004 10:56 AM
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Originally posted by punkworld
:eek7

BJJ came from the original jiu jitsu. Judo also came from the original jiu jitsu, and is the softcore version specifically developed for competing instead of real fighting.

At this point, the base of techniques in BJJ was similar to those in Kano's Judo academy in Japan. As the years progressed, however, the brothers (notably Carlos and Helio) and their students refined their art via brutal no-rules fights, both in public challenges and on the street. Particularly notable was their willingness to fight outside of weight categories, permitting a skilled small fighter to attempt to defeat a much larger opponent.

Libertine 10-16-2004 11:18 AM
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Originally posted by Vitasoy
In return for help from the Brazilian politician Gastao Gracie, Koma taught jiu-jitsu to Gastao's son Carlos.

mahoney 10-16-2004 12:59 PM
Wow alot of opinions here. Is The Ultimate Fighting Challenge still on ? Remeber Hoyce Gracie ?

Niko Bimini 10-16-2004 01:11 PM
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Originally posted by dunefield
Tyson because Bruce Lee won't show up to the fight...


:-)

EscortBiz 10-16-2004 01:14 PM
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Originally posted by WarChild
Rage is a distraction. The best fighters don't "rage", they calmy pick their opponents apart. :2 cents:
come visit brooklyn one night tell me what roid rage does after your visit


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