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Webmaster_Logic 10-17-2004 03:16 PM

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Originally posted by WarChild
I've considered doing it myself. The only problem in my mind is I doubt John Beacock in Calgary is who this guy really is. Something tells me it's all a charade.
Well if you want to discuss this more feel free to hit me up on icq later. 247-742-205
Im gonna go eat with the family i will be back in a few hours.

sexeducation 10-17-2004 03:19 PM

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Originally posted by Webmaster_Logic
Thank you any more info you would like to add?
Yes ... I think that MIGHT HAVE been a mistake.
Not really sure as my website is one of science and research.

If it was I apologize.
Frankly, I am still uncertain.

Regardless though - I removed all my "fair use" content as I learned risk management right here on GFY.

I don't have the power that Lensman or Rick Latona of Consumption Junction has - to defend what I feel is right.

So "risk managment" and more acceptability to this community says - take 'em down - start again - with solely 2257 compliant graphis and that's what I am doing.

sexeducation 10-17-2004 03:20 PM

Canadian Child Pornography Law

Here is the specific Canadian law that refers to child pornography:

Criminal Code, R.S.C. 1985, c. C-46, s. 163.

163.1

In this section, "child pornography" means

a photographic, film, video or other visual representation, whether or not it was made by electronic or mechanical means,

that shows a person who is or is depicted as being under the age of eighteen years and is engaged in or is depicted as engaged in explicit sexual activity, or

the dominant characteristic of which is the depiction, for a sexual purpose, of a sexual organ or the anal region of a person under the age of eighteen years; or

any written material or visual representation that advocates or counsels sexual activity with a person under the age of eighteen years that would be an offence under this Act.

Every person who makes, prints, publishes or possesses for the purpose of publication any child pornography is guilty of

an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding ten years; or

an offence punishable on summary conviction.

Every person who imports, distributes, sells or possesses for the purpose of distribution or sale any child pornography is guilty of

an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding ten years; or

an offence punishable on summary conviction.

Every person who possesses any child pornography is guilty of

an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding five years; or

an offence punishable on summary conviction.

It is not a defense to a charge under subsection (2) in respect of a visual representation that the accused believed that a person shown in the representation that is alleged to constitute child pornography was or was depicted as being eighteen years of age or more unless the accused took all reasonable steps to ascertain the age of that person and took all reasonable steps to ensure that, where the person was eighteen years of age or more, the representation did not depict that person as being under the age of eighteen years.



Where the accused is charged with an offence under subsection (2), (3), or (4), the court shall find the accused not guilty if the representation or written material that is alleged to constitute child pornography has artistic merit or an educational, scientific or medical purpose.


Subsections 163(3) to (5) apply, with such modifications as the circumstances require, with respect to an offence under subsection (2), (3) or (4). [1993, c.46, s.2.]

[1993, c.46, s.2.]

A good Canadian place to report "child pornography".
http://www.cybertip.ca/

WarChild 10-17-2004 03:20 PM

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Originally posted by sexeducation
I've never purposely surfed "CP" sites even to do research on the problem.

I have however, used and automatic downloading program called "QuadSucker" to automatically download all content for certain Usenet groups.

I then discovered some of those graphics were CP advertisements.

I counted them all up ... the ones that had domains on the graphics and at one time declared Russia as the worst CP distributor offender.

Recognizing a graphic I had seen 4 years earlier (that was 4 years ago) I took the tamest image I could find (just breasts showing) and censored her eyes (for identity) then posted that SexEducation.com was blocking all .RU email addresses from obtaining a membership on my website. As a result of that Overture.com banned my account for being "openly against groups of people"...
this is a simple matter of record.

Actually John, the Russian thing probably isn't illegal. Canadian laws require that sexual organs of the child be visible for it to be Child Porn. It doesn't mention secondary sexual organs (breasts) specifically. I'm not talking about your Russian girl with the bottle of Vodka.

I'm talking about the site you posted to this very website and claim to have had shut down in "15 minutes". Before I read the entire message, I actually followed your link. It WAS hardcore Child Pornography, no doubt about it.

Now here's the thing about all of this, John. You had to have gone to that website at some point. You didn't download the index.html with your newsgroup file finder. You were there. You yourself said you were there doing research. You were trying to find sites to be shut down. The difference between you and me is that when I clicked the link, I didn't do so in an effort to find CP. When it turned out that's what your link was, I closed the site before it even finished loading. You went to that site expecting to find Child Porn so you could "deal with it".

Canadian Law strictly and specifically prohibits you from doing this sort of "research". You're not an officer of the court or a member of any law enforcment community and thus are afforded no special protections. It's similar to if you bought drugs from a dealer to do "research" for your domain drugeducation.com.

It doesn't stop there though. You came to GFY and posted the link. It doesn't matter if you did it as a "typo" because you were "angry". It's illegal any way, any how. You can't post a working link to Child Porn. You can't even post the text as a non link. It's specifically illegal.

So "masterblog" all you want. Rant and rave all you like. I know what you did. I verified it with my own eyes. If you don't like what I'm saying you can go see a lawyer. That's your only option. Suck it up John.

Webmaster_Logic 10-17-2004 03:21 PM

Every person who possesses any child pornography is guilty of

an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding five years; or

an offence punishable on summary conviction.

So to edit it you had to have it in your posssesion right?

sexeducation 10-17-2004 03:24 PM

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...TEXT DELETED...
Where the accused is charged with an offence under subsection (2), (3), or (4), the court shall find the accused not guilty if the representation or written material that is alleged to constitute child pornography has artistic merit or an educational, scientific or medical purpose.

...TEXT DELETED ...
The point is not whether the two essays were "legal" to me when I say a "mistake" ...but whether or not they were acceptable to all communities.

pornstar2pac 10-17-2004 03:24 PM

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Originally posted by Fake Nick
<pornstar2pac style suck up>

I completely agree big L :thumbsup

</pornstar2pac style suck up>


:glugglug

\

Hey, I already told you don't use my name to get views. plus your sig is bigger than the 120x60 rule 99.98% go by



Strike 2:2 cents:

WarChild 10-17-2004 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Webmaster_Logic
Every person who possesses any child pornography is guilty of

an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding five years; or

an offence punishable on summary conviction.

So to edit it you had to have it in your posssesion right?

The definition of what is and is not CP in Canada is pretty strict. Such that a picture of a naked child is not by definition child porn.

The Child must be involved in a sexual act with sexual ograns visible. In reality, the russian girl probably doesn't qualify.

Posting a link to hardcore CP on GFY is a matter of black and white. He admits doing it and says he did it in "anger" but then also calls it a typo. You don't typo a link and anger is not legal defense.

GonZo 10-17-2004 03:30 PM

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Originally posted by Webmaster_Logic
So let me get this straight then ? you are not jonathan? You did not study General Medical Education at the univeristy of washington ? You did not lose your divorce case back in 98" You dont own sexeducation.com? You are not the son of alfred and amelia Beacock? What other info did i leave out?
Another "untouchable" is about to know what it feels like when reality reaches out and touches them.

Good work!

malakajoe 10-17-2004 03:31 PM

How the hell can you typo a URL to a child porn site? A type is usually a mispell of a letter or two...not a whole fuckin URL!!

Webmaster_Logic 10-17-2004 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WarChild
The definition of what is and is not CP in Canada is pretty strict. Such that a picture of a naked child is not by definition child porn.

The Child must be involved in a sexual act with sexual ograns visible. In reality, the russian girl probably doesn't qualify.

Posting a link to hardcore CP on GFY is a matter of black and white. He admits doing it and says he did it in "anger" but then also calls it a typo. You don't typo a link and anger is not legal defense.

Looks like i have to study up on my canadian law here. But you just gave me more fuel for the fire. If we ever meet drinks are on me.:glugglug

sexeducation 10-17-2004 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WarChild
Actually John, the Russian thing probably isn't illegal. Canadian laws require that sexual organs of the child be visible for it to be Child Porn. It doesn't mention secondary sexual organs (breasts) specifically. I'm not talking about your Russian girl with the bottle of Vodka.

I'm talking about the site you posted to this very website and claim to have had shut down in "15 minutes". Before I read the entire message, I actually followed your link. It WAS hardcore Child Pornography, no doubt about it.


Yes - it was.
THE WORST OF THE FUCKING WORST - FUCKING FUCKING WORST!
I was so fucking fucking pissed off - that not ONE but two of my coworkers had received the same email ..

I forgot to put in the question marks.
sorry ..

I once again apologize to the GFY community, and the internet as a whole - for this typo.
I am truly sorry.
If I need to do more then apologize... I am prepared to do so.
It was a mistake made out of PURE FUCKING ANGER !!!

At fucking blazen audacity of the spam email.
Unfucking believable.




Quote:


Now here's the thing about all of this, John. You had to have gone to that website at some point.
Yes - obviously - so did you!

Quote:


You didn't download the index.html with your newsgroup file finder. You were there.
so were you ...

Quote:

You yourself said you were there doing research. You were trying to find sites to be shut down. The difference between you and me is that when I clicked the link, I didn't do so in an effort to find CP.
How would you explain that to a court.
You did so because I said the URL was exactly what it purported to be????

Quote:

When it turned out that's what your link was, I closed the site before it even finished loading. You went to that site expecting to find Child Porn so you could "deal with it".
I went to the site because, like in this room, witch hunts are witch hunts ...

Quote:


Canadian Law strictly and specifically prohibits you from doing this sort of "research". You're not an officer of the court or a member of any law enforcment community and thus are afforded no special protections. It's similar to if you bought drugs from a dealer to do "research" for your domain drugeducation.com.
possibly

Quote:


It doesn't stop there though. You came to GFY and posted the link. It doesn't matter if you did it as a "typo" because you were "angry". It's illegal any way, any how. You can't post a working link to Child Porn. You can't even post the text as a non link. It's specifically illegal.
Didn't know that - IF TRUE!

Quote:

So "masterblog" all you want. Rant and rave all you like. I know what you did. I verified it with my own eyes.
Yes - you went there and I had previously stated is was FUCKING FUCKING THE WORST CP I HAD EVER WITNESSED!

Quote:

If you don't like what I'm saying you can go see a lawyer. That's your only option. Suck it up John.
I don't need to see anyone ...
sounds like you might have to.

Webmaster_Logic 10-17-2004 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GonZo
Another "untouchable" is about to know what it feels like when reality reaches out and touches them.

Good work!

Yeap its a sad thing when people think they can hide behind there keyboard. But reality is a bitch when it touches you and you are in a fantasy land.. :Graucho

malakajoe 10-17-2004 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Webmaster_Logic
So let me get this straight then ? you are not jonathan? You did not study General Medical Education at the univeristy of washington ? You did not lose your divorce case back in 98" You dont own sexeducation.com? You are not the son of alfred and amelia Beacock? What other info did i leave out?
I love how he fuckin ignored this post, like he always ignores things when people nail his ass (no pun intended).

sexeducation 10-17-2004 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Webmaster_Logic
Looks like i have to study up on my canadian law here. But you just gave me more fuel for the fire. If we ever meet drinks are on me.:glugglug
I know you are not talking to me.

If we meet - you can buy.
And we will meet.

I'm not afraid of you guys.
I've done nothing wrong.
(mistakes yes)

I look forward to coming to the next InterNext.

GonZo 10-17-2004 03:38 PM

Now hes going to start in on whos sponsoring my trip to Internext/Vegas again.

Bow to the power....

sexeducation 10-17-2004 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by malakajoe
I love how he fuckin ignored this post, like he always ignores things when people nail his ass (no pun intended).
Malakjoe ...
slow down ...
I can only reply to one post at a time ...
stand by ...

slow the fuck down ...

WarChild 10-17-2004 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Webmaster_Logic
Looks like i have to study up on my canadian law here. But you just gave me more fuel for the fire. If we ever meet drinks are on me.:glugglug
Here's some information for you:

Highlights of BIll C-15A

Child Pornography on the Internet: These new offences each have a maximum penalty of 10 years imprisonment and make it a crime to:

"transmit" child pornography from one person to another;
"make available" child pornography. This law applies when someone posts child pornography material on a web site or offers information on where to find it, for example, by providing a web site address;

"export" child pornography. This provision fulfils Canada's international obligations under the Optional Protocol to the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child, on the Sale of Children, Child Prostitution and Child Pornography; and
"possess child pornography for the purposes of" transmitting, making available or exporting.

Another new provision prohibits anyone from accessing child pornography on the Internet. This offence is punishable by up to five years imprisonment. The accessing offence does not criminalize someone who inadvertently views child pornography on the Internet since the amendment requires the person to have knowledge that there is child pornography on the site and a specific intention to access this material.

I've bolded sections that apply specifically to John. We know he "made available" child porn. He posted a link. This is clearly a violation. When I asked John why he was at that site in the first place, his response was (paraphrased) "I am doing sexual research and getting these sites shut down. I can go anywhere I want on the Internet I am the masterblogger". When we have Search working again I'll grab that post by him for your files.

TurboAngel 10-17-2004 03:40 PM

Well I need a drink now!


:glugglug

malakajoe 10-17-2004 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sexeducation
Malakjoe ...
slow down ...
I can only reply to one post at a time ...
stand by ...

slow the fuck down ...

Slow the fuck down? That was on page 2!! LOL!! You are such a fuckin moron. You ignore shit and ignore shit..you responded to everything around it but that one...you didn't miss it..you simply ignored it.

But since you are so smart, you figure people don't pick up on this shit.

Go to the next Internext...your right. I won't look to kick your ass. I will just want nothing to do with you.

sexeducation 10-17-2004 03:42 PM

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quote:
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Originally posted by Webmaster_Logic
So let me get this straight then ? you are not jonathan? You did not study General Medical Education at the univeristy of washington ? You did not lose your divorce case back in 98" You dont own sexeducation.com? You are not the son of alfred and amelia Beacock? What other info did i leave out?
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I am not Jonathan - correct.
I have not studied General Medical Education at the University of Washington.

I did not lose a divorce case - I have never been married.

I own SexEduation.com/.net/org/.tv and about 25+ other "sexeducation" domain names.

No I am not the son of "Alfred and Amelia"



"What other info did I leave out?"
Sounds like most of it ...roflmao

You do know that your NOT allowed to post the personal information of others on this board - correct?

WarChild 10-17-2004 03:44 PM

Just to clarify, I followed the link in inadvertently. This was my first introduction to John, and I just clicked the link to open in a new window while I read the post. I've always claimed it was not my intention to find or view CP by following your link.

On the other hand, you admit you went there expecting to find Child Porn. Read up on Bill C15-A :

The accessing offence does not criminalize someone who inadvertently views child pornography on the Internet since the amendment requires the person to have knowledge that there is child pornography on the site and a specific intention to access this material.

You going to the site looking to find CP for "reasearch" or to shut it down or any other reason makes your act criminal. You were looking for CP specifically and expected to find it.

malakajoe 10-17-2004 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sexeducation
I am not Jonathan - correct.
I have not studied General Medical Education at the University of Washington.

I did not lose a divorce case - I have never been married.

I own SexEduation.com/.net/org/.tv and about 25+ other "sexeducation" domain names.

No I am not the son of "Alfred and Amelia"



"What other info did I leave out?"
Sounds like most of it ...roflmao

You do know that your NOT allowed to post the personal information of others on this board - correct?

So do you have a son? Didn't use a condom and knocked a chick up? Sounds like you need some real Sex Education....lol.

P.S. - You have openly allowed people to post your information.

sexeducation 10-17-2004 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by malakajoe
Slow the fuck down? That was on page 2!! LOL!! You are such a fuckin moron. You ignore shit and ignore shit..you responded to everything around it but that one...you didn't miss it..you simply ignored it.

But since you are so smart, you figure people don't pick up on this shit.

Go to the next Internext...your right. I won't look to kick your ass. I will just want nothing to do with you.

relax ...
chillaxen my friend ...

it's just a discussion ...

I missed the post ...my threads go by FAST ...

just repost the questions and I will answer them ...

look at the friggen views of this thread ...
I don't catch every single post ...
sorry - I am not 50,100,150 bot poster ...

It really is me. : )

Webmaster_Logic 10-17-2004 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Webmaster_Logic
So let me get this straight then ? you are not jonathan? You did not study General Medical Education at the univeristy of washington ? You did not lose your divorce case back in 98" You dont own sexeducation.com? You are not the son of alfred and amelia Beacock? What other info did i leave out?
You never did anwser my question? why is that jonathan? Please while you are at the covention step up and say hello to me. I will be sure to that you have a time you never forget and you will be very popular in this biz.

sexeducation 10-17-2004 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by malakajoe
So do you have a son? Didn't use a condom and knocked a chick up? Sounds like you need some real Sex Education....lol.

P.S. - You have openly allowed people to post your information.

Yes - I have a son.
NO - she skipped a few birth control pills - thought she could catch up later I guess.
Yes - she became pregnant while we were engaged.
We never got married because of that.

Yes - I really needed some "sex education" at that time - almost 18 years ago.

Now you understand why I never back down.

Sex education is soooo important to soooo many.

It changed my life.
I became a Father instead of a Nuclear Physicist.
true stuff...

WarChild 10-17-2004 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sexeducation
It changed my life.
I became a Father instead of a Nuclear Physicist.
true stuff...


BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH. Holy fuck that's the best laugh I've had in a long time. Good luck John, you need it.

sexeducation 10-17-2004 03:54 PM

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Originally posted by WarChild
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH. Holy fuck that's the best laugh I've had in a long time. Good luck John, you need it.
Not a WORD a lie or an exaggeration.

I wrote the Physics 30 Alberta Departmental Exam in 5 minutes ...check it over again - and turned it in - in 10 minutes. It's a 2.5 hour grade 12 physics Final Exam.

all verifiable ...

I wanted to become a nuclear physicist.

sexeducation 10-17-2004 03:56 PM

I will NEVER back down on the scientific truth of SexEducation.com.

crystal?

Webmaster_Logic 10-17-2004 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sexeducation
I will NEVER back down on the scientific truth of SexEducation.com.

crystal?

Nor will i backdown on my fight against you . Is that crystal?

sexeducation 10-17-2004 04:03 PM

John E. Beacock
Suite 353, Unit 204
1440 - 52 Street NE
Calgary
Alberta
Canada
T2A 4E8

1-403-619-2739
ICQ 32315652

Porn is going mainstream.
While that does - lets make some changes to the way sex is taught.

It's about time we started teaching sex in a gender neutral manner.

It's about time we started teaching sexual equality.

The biggest problem is - we need some more words and the academic community is not coming up with them!

Orgasm = stimulation of the clitoris-glans until ejaculation.
(gender irrelevant)

GonZo 10-17-2004 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by malakajoe
Slow the fuck down? That was on page 2!! LOL!! You are such a fuckin moron. You ignore shit and ignore shit..you responded to everything around it but that one...you didn't miss it..you simply ignored it.

But since you are so smart, you figure people don't pick up on this shit.

Go to the next Internext...your right. I won't look to kick your ass. I will just want nothing to do with you.

When he answeres you he will deny everything - even lie about statements hes even made in the past about his wife and marriage.

He is a the master censor and master liar.

sexeducation 10-17-2004 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Webmaster_Logic
Nor will i backdown on my fight against you . Is that crystal?

ooooooo aaaaaah
the papers the papers ...

Smokey ? you there? is this a sign from "the Society**" ...
for your safety destroy your moniter NOW ...

I said now ...

sexeducation 10-17-2004 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GonZo
When he answeres you he will deny everything - even lie about statements hes even made in the past about his wife and marriage.

He is a the master censor and master liar.

I am the MasterBlogger.
State what I say is incorrect.
Post your proof.

Or I will have you banned!
[smirk - just joking - Lensman almost ...ooops ... Lensman runs this board]

lol

Webmaster_Logic 10-17-2004 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GonZo
When he answeres you he will deny everything - even lie about statements hes even made in the past about his wife and marriage.

He is a the master censor and master liar.

yeap i dont understand this guy one bit. I cant figure out is this a guy just a plain freak or a attention whore.

sexeducation 10-17-2004 04:10 PM

Actually Lensman ...and Adult.com

Thankyou again ...

for allowing me the opportunity to express my opinions on the worlds busiest adult webmaster board.

I really do mean that (all MasterBlogger crap aside) ...

Thank you ...

sexeducation 10-17-2004 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Webmaster_Logic
yeap i dont understand this guy one bit. I cant figure out is this a guy just a plain freak or a attention whore.
I am not motivated by money.
I don't change my morals based on money.

There are others in this room like that.
Many others.

That's hard for some people to understand.

GonZo 10-17-2004 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Webmaster_Logic
yeap i dont understand this guy one bit. I cant figure out is this a guy just a plain freak or a attention whore.
Yeah... I had a problem like this last year. She thought she was invinciible...she stated she would never be found because she was the light of truth in this business....she was a hot 30 year old redhead on the beach with Asia Carerra.... in the end she was exactly what we said she was an old bitter nasty woman.

Hiding in a gated community and ordering your food and such to be clandestinly delivered by Albertsons catchs up to you. I guess just because some one can hide at Chuck E Cheese in Canada makes one feel safe and superior.

We got her picture ....she said it wasnt her.....

DOS TIP - Dont call me a liar and ask me to prove it. I WILL!!!

http://www.sexgoblins.com/shopin.wmv

sexeducation 10-17-2004 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GonZo
Yeah... I had a problem like this last year. She thought she was invinciible...she stated she would never be found because she was the light of truth in this business....she was a hot 30 year old redhead on the beach with Asia Carerra.... in the end she was exactly what we said she was an old bitter nasty woman.

Hiding in a gated community and ordering your food and such to be clandestinly delivered by Albertsons catchs up to you. I guess just because some one can hide at Chuck E Cheese in Canada makes one feel safe and superior.

We got her picture ....she said it wasnt her.....

DOS TIP - Dont call me a liar and ask me to prove it. I WILL!!!

http://www.sexgoblins.com/shopin.wmv

I am NOT invisible.
Most of the real major "playa's" on this board have done their homework on me and have discovered I am the real thing.

Just an imperfect Father - that also - tried to build and adult website - over the last ten years of changing legislation.

I've made mistakes - LOTS. We all made "mistakes" as the internet grew up - come on?

But don't fucking call me a pedo or you make an instant enemy of this Father, who only tried to do his best.



crystal?

Webmaster_Logic 10-17-2004 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sexeducation
I am NOT invisible.
Most of the real major "playa's" on this board have done their homework on me and have discovered I am the real thing.

Just an imperfect Father - that also - tried to build and adult website - over the last ten years of changing legislation.

I've made mistakes - LOTS. We all made "mistakes" as the internet grew up - come on?

But don't fucking call me a pedo or you make an instant enemy of this Father, who only tried to do his best.



crystal?

And who would these major players be?


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