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pxxx 10-27-2004 05:16 PM

If i was you, i will give it to them, and hope they give you something back in return. Just for you saving them court time, and all the bullshit they will have to do to take it.:Graucho

Bigwilly 10-27-2004 05:17 PM

could i get in trouble if i offer it to them for free then if they dont want it, drop it?

Bigwilly 10-27-2004 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BoNgHiTtA
You know, its funny cause every week a new person comes here thinking they have hit the internet 'jackpot' with these domains. It shows you the world is filled with people who would rather waste time trying to scam companies, than doing anything productive.
now your think like an american :)

Steen2 10-27-2004 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mike33
Doesn't matter. There are clearly defined terms that must be met for a ruling to go in favor of trademark infringement. If the above was true about him, he'd have a strong case, and could win.
Mike, you said this:

" It also wouldn't hurt to contact them and ask them if they'd like to buy it from you."

That is certainly not true.

Bigwilly 10-27-2004 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mike33
Doesn't matter. There are clearly defined terms that must be met for a ruling to go in favor of trademark infringement. If the above was true about him, he'd have a strong case, and could win.
what are the terms, i was lookin at some receint domain name lawsuits of similar nature didnt come across what the clearly defined terms were

Steen2 10-27-2004 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bigwilly
what are the terms, i was lookin at some receint domain name lawsuits of similar nature didnt come across what the clearly defined terms were
http://www.icann.org/udrp/udrp-policy-24oct99.htm

Drake 10-27-2004 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bigwilly
what are the terms, i was lookin at some receint domain name lawsuits of similar nature didnt come across what the clearly defined terms were
Well since your name isn't Miller they won't apply to you and you probably don't stand a chance.

One term is clear intent on "piggy-backing" their good name for commercial purposes.

Drake 10-27-2004 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Steen2
Mike, you said this:

" It also wouldn't hurt to contact them and ask them if they'd like to buy it from you."

That is certainly not true.

You're right

SuckOnThis 10-27-2004 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BoNgHiTtA
You know, its funny cause every week a new person comes here thinking they have hit the internet 'jackpot' with these domains. It shows you the world is filled with people who would rather waste time trying to scam companies, than doing anything productive.

Well the guy did say in another thread

Quote:

Originally posted by Bigwilly
stealing is a business i know quite a few people that profit off that business

txtilde 10-27-2004 06:42 PM

As the owner of licos.com, trypod.com, hotbott.com, nationsbanking.com, wmsn.com, etc I can tell you this:

You cannot knowingly register another companies brand and then try to sell it to them... this is domain squatting. Miller is a beer company and they have the appropriate trademarks. I get away with some of these because they are a radio station, a type of dog, a mispelling for a camera stand, etc. But these companies still tried.

You are asking for it to hold on to this name or try to sell it to them. At best case scenario they are going to take you to ICANN arbitration (which costs them a $10K filing fee) and you will have to turn over the domain. Worse, they could get ICANN to rule that you need to turn it over then sue you for that 10K. Still worse, they can take you to open court (in their home state) and file damages against you.

Once a big company files a lawsuit against you, you are out at least 60K in legal fees. Guarenteed. I went up against Bank of America for nationsbanking.com and won the ICANN suit. I thought I had it made and then B of A sued me in court. I turned over the domain and thankfully they called the dogs off.

woj 10-27-2004 06:44 PM

50 domain copyright issues...

gideongallery 10-27-2004 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by txtilde

You are asking for it to hold on to this name or try to sell it to them. At best case scenario they are going to take you to ICANN arbitration (which costs them a $10K filing fee) and you will have to turn over the domain. Worse, they could get ICANN to rule that you need to turn it over then sue you for that 10K. Still worse, they can take you to open court (in their home state) and file damages against you.


the fee is only $1,500 you may have legal expenses but the filing fee is not that great.

Personally unless you are a canadian citizen, trying to make money like this just doesn't work because if they wanted the domain all they have to do is run up the legal expenses on you until you are belly up and the will get it.

Under Canadian law the loser pays so we will bury you under legal expenses threat doesn't work.

If you win the icann and they sue they better be sure they have a winning case because if they lose they are paying the legal expenses.

Bigwilly 10-27-2004 09:00 PM

this whole situation is too much of a hassel im gonna email them tomorrow and offer the name to them for free. (hope them hook me up with free beer for being nice but i dont have my hopes up)

Bigwilly 10-27-2004 09:02 PM

Well the guy did say in another thread


quote:
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Originally posted by Bigwilly
stealing is a business i know quite a few people that profit off that business



stealing is a business just like drug dealing is a business, im not saying i partake in stealing, i hate theives.

foolio 10-27-2004 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bigwilly
you serioulsy think they are gonna give me ten grand for it?

hahaha

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Bigwilly 10-27-2004 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by foolio
hahaha

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:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

asshole i know i wasnt gonna get ten grand i was quotein someone else

scoreman 10-27-2004 09:10 PM

Two words if you plan to register and use it.

FORGET IT

Two more words if you are using it and try to profit from it.

BEND OVER

pussyluver 10-27-2004 09:40 PM

Slam dunk, they win! They can put the junior attorneys on the incident. If they see it, they can take it away from you. Often if you came by the name just tryiing to do your biz, they might throw ya a grand. The case prolly wouldn't even see a court room unless you pissed them off. See the ICAAN rules (link above). MY :2 cents: Not an attorney.


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