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broke 11-07-2004 01:05 AM

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Originally posted by pornguy
So what happened that Tyson sucks in the ring now??
Cus D'Amato died and King got his claws in...

th3g4me 11-07-2004 01:26 AM

I dont know how you could even ask this....

Tyson is the kind of guy Ali would have loved to fight...

He is big, dumb, and swings hard.

He would be out of breath in 3 rounds from trying to get a knock out with every punch after all of the shit talking Ali did before and during the fight.

Have any of you ever watched Boxing on ESPN Classic?

George Foreman was a beast. Ali was just standing against the ropes with his face covered letting George wear his self out on his forearms.

Drake 11-07-2004 01:39 AM

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Originally posted by th3g4me
I dont know how you could even ask this....

Tyson is the kind of guy Ali would have loved to fight...

He is big, dumb, and swings hard.

He would be out of breath in 3 rounds from trying to get a knock out with every punch after all of the shit talking Ali did before and during the fight.

Have any of you ever watched Boxing on ESPN Classic?

George Foreman was a beast. Ali was just standing against the ropes with his face covered letting George wear his self out on his forearms.

Yeah I've seen that fight. It's really a tough call. I think that nobody compares to Tyson in his prime. Foreman was tough but nobody was the fierce animal Tyson was. If he connected with Ali's head, Ali's head would implode. At the same time, there is no doubting Tyson is a big dumb idiot who Ali could play mind games with, taunt, tease, and cause Tyson to lose focus, easily wearing him down after a couple of rounds, in which Ali would pummel Tyson mercilessly.

Ali is a better fighter, so my odds are on him. He's also strong and has a strong jaw.

But few have the power and ability to connect like Tyson. Whether you're hands are up or not, he'll eventually pop you in the face HARD the second they're not. He'll find that hole and all it takes is one of his punches to completely subdue his opponent.

th3g4me 11-07-2004 01:49 AM

An easy way to settle this is just go to your local video store and look for boxing movies and see who has more made about them.

Ali or Tyson...

bizmak 11-07-2004 02:29 AM

mohamed ali, too smart for tyson.

WarChild 11-07-2004 03:27 AM

The thing I find most remarkable about Ali is that he could hit you from any angle. He could be side stepping, back peddling or even stumbling and he'd still land straight, hard blows.

Tyson was a bulldog who I think honestly liked hurting people. This man punched through a brick wall in his dressing room. His best punch was that low fake stand-up uppercut. I've seen guys feet leave the ground from that punch.

I'm not sure who would win, but it'd be a hell of a rumble and that's for sure.

Cory W 11-07-2004 12:34 PM

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Originally posted by J$tyle$
At 20 yrs old Tyson was fuckin' Pit Bull ... he systematically broke his opponents down ... mudering their bodies and braking their heads (almost snapping them off) with his KILLER uppercuts and BRUTAL haymakers - it was almost unfair!

Ali in his prime was so smart and technicaly skilled and he embarrassed so many of his opponents - he was the man of his generation, no doubt!

(I don't care how Ali teased, suckered and beat Forman ... Tyson was a fuckin' hot blooded ANIMAL!)

All things being equal ... both men in their primes?

Ali would have ridiculed and annoyed the shit out of Tyson leading up to the fight and Iron Mike would have ripped off his head and probably killed him!

Tyson wins by KO in 2 rounds ... Ali left in the middle of the ring in a bloody and beaten lump!

:2 cents:

I agree....

maxdaname 11-07-2004 12:47 PM

Tyson is Stronger but, Ali Had a good reach, good feet/rhythm and good speed. So I would say Ali, but it would be a tight one!

reynold 11-07-2004 12:57 PM

I'll vote for ali. He's the greatest.

bellskids 11-07-2004 01:02 PM

How about Tyson vs Clubber Lang:Graucho

Harmon 11-07-2004 01:23 PM

50 tough mother fuckers

Stamen 11-07-2004 02:29 PM

I would say Ali, Tyson in his prime never had to prove himself against any good fighters, and the good ones were way past their prime already.

Any boxer with real talent has eaten Tyson for breakfast (I know, post-prison)

Ali on the other hand worked his way through some of the best boxers, while they were in their prime.

dig420 11-07-2004 02:44 PM

if you asked 50 boxing journalists or people in the industry who wins that fight, 49 will say Ali and Steve Kim will say Tyson just to be different. Nobody who really follows the sport passionately believes Tyson beats Ali, or even a young Larry Holmes. Tyson had big trouble with any guy who was mobile and had a long jab.

He was a great fighter in a time of weak competition, but when he stepped up to other elite fighters he lost. Every time. Whatever excuses you want to give, he lost, and he certainly wasn't that far past his physical prime the first time he fought Holyfield and got an asswhipping. He was still in his physical prime when he got KTFO by Douglas.

You think Buster Douglas beats a young Ali? Ever?

Tyson's style was dramatic and that made him look extra extra good when he won, but that doesn't mean it's all powerful.

Cory W 11-08-2004 10:57 AM

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Originally posted by dig420
if you asked 50 boxing journalists or people in the industry who wins that fight, 49 will say Ali and Steve Kim will say Tyson just to be different. Nobody who really follows the sport passionately believes Tyson beats Ali, or even a young Larry Holmes. Tyson had big trouble with any guy who was mobile and had a long jab.

He was a great fighter in a time of weak competition, but when he stepped up to other elite fighters he lost. Every time. Whatever excuses you want to give, he lost, and he certainly wasn't that far past his physical prime the first time he fought Holyfield and got an asswhipping. He was still in his physical prime when he got KTFO by Douglas.

You think Buster Douglas beats a young Ali? Ever?

Tyson's style was dramatic and that made him look extra extra good when he won, but that doesn't mean it's all powerful.

So you think Tyson's right hook was overrated and any good fighter could have withstood the flurry?

BuckLover 11-08-2004 11:09 AM

2 different fighters seperated by 20 years of the sport getting bigger and more competative, in the 60's heavy weights were lighter, more like light heavy wieghts today.

On a sheer power contest comparing both men in their prime, it is Tyson.

As for fancy footwork and the ability to fake out opponents it's ali.

But Tyson would have fucked Ali up!:2 cents:

Gunni 11-08-2004 11:29 AM

What would be a really interesting fight would be Ali in his prime vs. Lewis in his prime,
there you got two intellegent boxers, and Lewis just happens to hit as hard as anyone you can imagine (+ inceridible accuracy)

Ali would've taken Tyson, but I am not sure about Lewis :glugglug

reynold 11-08-2004 01:29 PM

My money is on ali. he's a legend man.


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