I don't want anything. It's just you make it seem like your appology was alot bigger than it was. It was a pretty awful attempt at one - from my opinion on an appology.

He was cursing at me, not you.
:xmas-smil

Why didn't you act in a similar way to others that have posted pictures of their kids on GFY? You made a comment in at least one of the other threads with pictures of someone's kid but they certainly weren't negative. Didn't have the balls to give those people your opinion? And if you're going to tell me that there is somehow a difference between posting pictures of a 12 year old and posting pictures of an infant, then please do explain. Or was it simply a case of you feeling some fucked up need to attack Choker by attacking his daughter?

If i had kids, the only reason i wouldn't post pictures on a place like GFY would be because of people like you and Oracle Porn. You're on the same mental level as Oracle porn. There's something to be proud of. But other than you two, i'd be happy to share pictures of my family with people from the industry i work in, even on a public forum.

I think people would have respected what you had to say if you came out and told Choker you didn't think it was right for him to post pictures/videos of his kids on GFY and explained why. Instead, you showed your true colours and attacked someone's 12 year old daughter.

How do you feel knowing that you're the reason people shouldn't post pictures of their kids on GFY? Not because you'll be there to tell them why it's wrong, but because you'll be there to make disgusting comments about kids?

Your apology was an insincere piece of shit.

"I'm sorry but...."

Clearly just trying to save face.

quoted potter - not you. maybe you should read more before you comment.

Sorry thought you were talkin to me didnt see the other poster

why do you allways seem to come off so cocky?

when the fuck have I ever held back from speaking my mind about ANYONE on here - large or small player?

the only reason you woulnd't post pics to an adult webmaster board is cause of me and orcale porn? You sir - are an idiot. total and complete.

i see a huge difference between pics of an infant and that of a 12 year old girl. HUGE

my apology was in fact not - i'm sorry but.
It was I made a mistake - i take it back - it does not excuse the pedo comments or the stupidy of posting the video.

how does ass taste?

look at the url - real it SLOWLY with me.... come on - say it outload.



Some of you whinny bitches really need a bitch slap BAD.
I swear you are all worse than lovy dovy women.

this isn't hugsandkisses.com

I can own up to and admit my mistakes.

you are surely a peice of work thats for sure

Elaborate.

an infant doesn't look anything like the adult later in life. An infant has no understandnig of language, or concept yet. Posting pics of an infant doesn't brand that infant for life as being on an adult webmaster board in my opinion.

I look a lot like my pics of when I was 12. I look nothing like my infant pics. Some places will even try a 12 year old in an adult court for some things. Having pics of you out there on an adult webmaster board when you were 12 can follow you for life. It's possibly closing career options for your children.

My understanding is that there is a lot more insidences of molestation around 12 years old then there is for infants. 12 year olds are more independant and arn't always within a parents reach, and as such it's WAY more dangerous to have pics on an adult webmaster board of a 12 year old then that of an infant in my opinion. 12 year olds go to school and interact with the public a LOT more in their daily lives then infants do - and as such are exposed to a lot more risk from strangers. Why increase this risk with pics or video of your 12 year old on an adult webmaster board?


does that make any sense?

wa wa wa - here come the waterworks

im not a fish i dont take bait Merry christmas

i agree :xmas-smil

baddog, how much did you pull for mogul in the end, bro? Don't tell me it was less than 50 Gs.

The politics regarding this issue is a bunch of bullshit.

Choker good for you bro. Any normal person in the 'real' word would have responded in kind. And the offender would be in the hospital.

There should be limits to immaturity (even on GFY). The fact that you were blamed or retaliated against in this situation is ridiculous.

Watching this evolve, I am glad my adult income is not tied into the "elite network"... :love-smil

Shame on those dancing around this situation. SHAME ON YOU!

Merry Xmas GFY.

Glad to see you support the idea of posting videos of 12 year olds to adult webmaster boards and calling people Pedo without regard.

Well, we're all ADULTS, and all WEBMASTERS, posting on this BOARD. Yes, yes, you make a good point.


This is a WEBMASTER BOARD - just like you stated. Choker didn't go posting the video on some TGP.

P.S. My post doesn't matter - I have a small post count.

Sleazy my comments are directed at the admins of this board not you.

As a party to this whole thing you have every right to defend your position and to apologize is a big deal. I respect that and know that 99% of the peeps here would never do it. We all say stupid things on this fucking board once in a while.

Regarding the video: When did we become the pedos? If we are going to assert standards then should the pic of the blond kid giving the finger or the clip of the girl getting hit in the head with a soccer ball and falling down be banned. I know that Chokers video was posted amongst "friends". People who chat, network and shoot the shit all day every day. Shouldn't there be more of a bond in this industry? We have enough fuckin' enemies outside of adult.

Should we be ashamed of what we do? Are we bad just because of what we do and therefore watching a video of a collegues child is wrong in some way? I don't know where the hostility came from.

I don't know you or Choker but for crying out loud let's give eachother respect, learn from our mistakes and move forward. The best thing at this point would be to let the peeps vent shake it off and not be defensive.

Peace,
LiveDose

PS This message has been brought to you by 1 1/2 botles of red wine and an exhausted xmas gift wrapper....(*slave).

thanks for clarification. I have no problem with sharing vids like the one choker did privatly amoung friends, but look at it like this. Lets say choker had to go to court on a custidy battle. How would a judge look at his action of posting those videos to an adult webmaster board? Esp when pics of ******* are provided as an example of pics that show up on GFY regurally.

There are some great and incredible people in this industry that I would trust my life to. There are also some SCUMBAGS. Threads on gfy can't filter out the scumbags. posting those videos on here was a HUGE mistake.

night trolls

you're right to an extent. G'nite daddy...

ummm, if I can get involved on that one. From my perspective, you get upset because Scott started cussing at you, when it fact he directly quoted someone other than you, yet you still feel it was directed at you, and then get upset and think he is being cocky because he was able to follow the conversation and you weren't?

Choker, if this is true.. then you posting this is right up there with what Sleazy said about you posting the movies

this is a low blow that in my opinion takes a lot away from you

so .. who's the bigger man, Sleazy or Choker.. at this point.. I think it's a draw

Sometimes even on GFY people should think twice before posting something completely not called for...even if its GFY, some people here are respected and not surfers....

later you learned about sleazy's tasteless comment about Choker's child?
Didn't Sleazy mention that right away? :eek7

woah, i wish there was a gfy movie

read the thread ...

150 ...xxx

I did:

The first I heard of any of this was when sleazy icq'd me and posted a link where you were calling him a pedo repeatedly. Naturally, we won't stand for that garbage, so I decided to give you a rest from posting, aka banning.

Then, later I learned about sleazy's tasteless comment about your child.

What did I miss?

nice sig :)

Sleazy is just one of that useless kids you have on school as well. Playing like a big boy. Then someone wants to kick his ass, and start crying at the teachers room. Making up a story to the teacher, and don't tell the whole truth. Hoping mister bad guy gets detention. Then the useless kid starts calling names from far away.

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The first I heard of any of this was when sleazy icq'd me and posted a link where you were calling him a pedo repeatedly. Naturally, we won't stand for that garbage, so I decided to give you a rest from posting, aka banning.

Then, later I learned about sleazy's tasteless comment about your child.
"""

come on, we are adults right? Who is taking sleazy serious nowadays? Now I get of course the comments I don't show up my face at conventions, well I do...I don't visit them all, but once a year you can find me.

Merry Christmas

No.

Clearly.

Ho Ho Ho
 

Merry XXXMas Lens! :smilie_we

AFter I post this breakdown, this thread can be closed. This is what happened to anybody who has a lick of common sense.

Choker shouldn't have posted his daughter on this board even though he rightfully should since it's his daughter, she's FULLY CLOTHED, and she's shooting a gun....None of which can be construed as sexual.

Sleazy made a sexual remark about choker's daughter...Then says it should be expected because the name of this board is "GoFuckYourself" and that alone should justify any off color remark and says that choker should be able to take the heat of those comments and let them roll off his back because he was just "fucking around"

Choker, since he couldn't reach out and beat the shit out of sleazy for saying something like that like he would have if he said that shit to choker to his face, couldn't do anything else but resort to calling sleazy for making a CLEARLY SEXUAL statement about his daughter...And it seems like the ONLY few people who think that what he said was ok seems to be people who have hung out with him personally. Everybody else seems to have their heads out of their asses and can see the obvious truth, regardless if they're "nobody trolls" or whatnot....Obviously choker was calling sleazy a pedo because he knew it would piss him off. It's happened to me and I myself have called people pedo on this board. They're not going to whine about it though.

Even though sleazy just said that the board's name is justification for his off color remarks and that choker should just roll with the punches, once he is called a pedo on the VERY SAME board, he goes and tattles to Lensman and shows him the thread because he couldn't take the heat of being called a pedo on the board....(even though DarkJedi has called me pedo repeatedly and I wouldn't have even THOUGHT to contact the owner of this board privately to complain about it)

Lensman who is also part of this "l33t" group, jumps to the rescue of his dear buddy, sleazy and bans choker, who can be considered "the working man's webmaster" and has less popularity with the elites on this board.

Maybe choker is still banned, maybe he isn't, but sleazy got nothing but a ALLEGED tongue lashing from Lensman about it and now even though at least 95% of this board can see the truth, there are some people still holding out on this "daughter posted on a pornographic board" bullshit....That's like trying to argue Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq. Only a FOOL would believe any of it.

I'm the type of dude that likes younger females. In fact, I even like to drive by the high schools and look at all of the young phat booty honies that come in and out of the school and even try to pick some of them up, but there is NO FUCKING WAY that I could have looked at that choker video and even thought of anything sexual about it. NO WAY IN HELL. It didn't cross my mind. And the ONLY way that something sexual could have been SAID about that video is if there was a sexual THOUGHT that preceded it. I don't give a fuck how you say it.

It's what they call a "Freudian Slip"

If you wanted to insult choker's putting his daughter's video on here, you could have easily come up with some "she will grow up to be a gun totin tobacco chewing trailer trash just like you" insult and it would have been more effective and harsh in proving sleazy's point. But making a SEXUAL remark about somebody's daughter would get your ass kicked and possibly get you called a pedo. That's just the way it is....And the fact that you ran and cried to Lensman about it on icq makes it look even more bitch like....And the "He will ruin my business" excuse won't wash because nobody takes anybody's comments seriously during a pissing match. It's not like nobody else wouldn't have done business with sleazy just because of some dumb pissing thread on GFY...Be serious.

I wasn't going to say anything because I thought that this would die in a day or so, but since there is page after page of THE SAME SHIT being said over and over again is stupid...

Sometimes it's just easier to say "I fucked up" from the get go and move on. All of this shit is uncalled for. I'm starting to learn that myself. And I pride myself on being an asshole just like sleazy, but I"ve come to realize that not a lot of people really want to be around an asshole. They may smile in your face, they might do business with you because you're honest, they may come and take funny pictures with you for gfy, but MOST people will avoid you like the plague and it isn't fun....And it's nice to be on top and have people kissing your ass and all of that but you better believe that the same people that are kissing your ass now are the people that wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire if your luck turned bad.

I always liked sleazy's "You're all idiots" threads. I loved how he would just bait people and have them dance all night long while he sat there and laughed at you. I liked how he was able to make so many people so mad and knowing that those people couldn't do jack shit about it. But this has taken sleazy down a notch in my opinion.

I still think he can just come out and say "I fucked up" for saying sexual comments about his daughter and mean it SINCERELY and in two weeks, everybody will be back to kissing sleazy's ass. But if he doesn't...........

yeap,hope all will be ok at the end and merry x-mas to all ;)

I fucked up - and I made a post about that and stated CLEARLY in that fucking post - "i made a mistake, I was wrong"

I'm really getting sick and fucking tired of know it all assholes who keep posting without having a fucking clue about the facts..

ahhhh, i see how this draw thing works, choker can post anything and get away with it, and I can't.