Your "apology" was not an apology...as more than one member has noted. It and your justifications/excuses are disingenuous...and that is an understatement. Bottom line is this...you are a fat sleazy no class...phoney...who is attempting to do damage control and failing in the effort.

this is getting really really fucking old.
What the fuck WOULD be an apology?

I'm getting the distinct impression that you trolls don't think I'm allowed to be human.


Personally and this is MY opinion too, the comment wasn't sexual. It was rude and way too harse and I admit that it was a mistake to post it, but not sexual and I personally believe that ANYONE who actually did take that comment as sexual has some serious dark sexual issues within themselves.

.. so this is Christmas..

While...I believe that any new apology cannot be sincerely made to Choker...at this point in time...because of the disengenuous "apology" with "justification/excuses" contained in it...which was a poorly designed effort at damage control. An apology would have been something along the lines of..."I apology to you Choker for the comments I made about your daughter and hope you will forgive me."...end of apology without the extraneous...disengenuous BS.

As for Choker posting a video of his 12 year old child on an Adult Webmaster board...I am not an advocate of posting children's pics...of any age...on an Adult Webmaster board and have spoken against it before this issue. As for Choker's calling you a Pedo...it was designed to insult you just as your post about his daughter was designed to insult him via his daughter.

Both of you owed one another a straight up apology without disengenuous...extraneous BS...but at this point I think it is too late for either of you to make a sincere apology to one another.

intersting comment - damned if I do - damned if I don't

so You might as well carry on slamming me....

merry fucking xmas trolls.

go to fucking hell

Choker was banned, that's not getting away with it.

true, but like everyone else you're taking that statement out of context again

I haven't read the whole thing, but clearly several mistakes were made of varying degrees, even by myself for not knowing all the facts.

But I think it's safe to say that nobody has anything else new to add to this drama, so I think this thread and issue will die sometime today.

Idiot

They're

So be fair and ban Sleazydream and give him a rest from posting.

Couldn't agree more. That would prolly end the threads. Give Sleazy the same chance to cool down.

Sleazy, Choker..just DROP the issue now!

You've both had more than your fair chance of saying what you believe about this whole thing. There really isn't anything new to say about it. Ignore any other comments from the rest of the group and get on with your biz!

Responding to everyone just continues to pour fuel on the fire.

Merry Fucking Christmas and try to remember what is real (TODAY..a "Happy Holiday") and what is just a message board that allows people to a great degree say things that are not politically correct.

I agree. He needs a "cool off" period as well.

Sleazy Dream, This past year I was most all the shows, was just in Santa Monica, and will be in Las Vegas coming up. Also I am not siding with any "faceless trolls" never do never will. I make my own opinions and I always stand behind them, ask anyone that knows me, I am for sure prepared to stand behind them always.

No I would never ever post pictures or images of my children on an adult board such as this one. I can really tell or determine what was on his mind for doing so, maybe he felt comfortable or did not think he would be attacked, I don?t know. But I don?t think I would have taken a shot at anyone?s kids, even if someone were do post showing bad judgment, its really up to us as professionals to show each other respect on some kind of level, even though things get down and dirty here on GFY, its still in good fun, but when it comes to real kids, then that does cross the line, I don?t agree with what you are Choker did here, you guys were both wrong...

See you in Vegas and we can smoke a cigar........! :xmas-smil

:xmas-smil

I just can't believe you are as shallow as you appear

I don't want to believe it

because I've seen you post some seriously insightful things in the past.. could it be true that you really don't see this as it really is?

So basicly you feel you have found a wonderfull place to just hate ! The boards name is your excuse ?