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I Like Chocolate 01-02-2005 03:36 PM

all those other nations are poor, they will give what they can give

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 01-02-2005 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SexualRB
all those other nations are poor, they will give what they can give

K the Oil rich nations of the middle east are poor?

MMMkkk...
We already went threw that.

Read the whole thread, start from the beginning.

Short Irish Guy 01-02-2005 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by QuaWee
so are you trying to say Arab nations are not "modern civilizations"? :mad:

Yes. Basically...

Antonio 01-02-2005 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ
Oracle of Porn is a legend.

You have a problem with Geography.

Jordan is in Asia!!!! Gosh, is there anything more irritating than a retard with a big mouth???

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 01-02-2005 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Antonio
Jordan is in Asia!!!! Gosh, is there anything more irritating than a retard with a big mouth???

Geography lessons are over...

You missed that part.
While Asia may encompass over 1/4 of the world does not mean its minor sections are not to be classified as other regions.

Be sure to consult with your local library on Nations affiliated with the middle East in the Geography section and those within the whole of Asia. But since your so desperate to get an edge in this discussion I never said Jordan was NOT in "Asia". Not to mention off subject in a desperate move to twist the facts I have put before you.
Jordan is a Middle Eastern Nation within Asia as a whole. Though my educated mind believes that Jordan and China really have nothing in common along with Vietnam, Malasia, Singapore, India and Japan.

DarkLord 01-02-2005 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ
But Jordan is classified as a middle Eastern country.

As an example...

http://wonderclub.com/Atlas/images_gif/menew.gif

lol

just for your reference: Middle East is a part of Asia. There are 6 major regions of the world: Europe, Asia, America, Africa, Antarctida and Australia&Oceania.

donnie 01-02-2005 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ
my educated mind believes that Jordan and China really have nothing in common along with Vietnam, Malasia, Singapore, India and Japan.

They have one thing in common. THEY ARE ALL ASIAN COUNTRIES!!

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 01-02-2005 04:34 PM

Look at you cheap ass terrorist nation supportaing retards trying to debate Jordan is NOT in the middle East but its ASIA!
OMG piss poor dumb fukcers go suck Osama's cock!!! Alah Ackbar!

God is great because Newbies keep getting dumber and dumber. I swear its true. I mean I used to slam newbs that were a challange a cuople years ago. But this new wave of newbs is the biggest bunch of retards I have ever encountered to date.

Ya wanna talk about Jordan as not being a Middle Eastern Nation and say that its an Asian Nation thats fine, call it what ever you want but the truth is Jordan is one of those dumb ass Nations that have no fucking care for the world and would rather blow things up than actually help.

donnie 01-02-2005 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ
Look at you cheap ass terrorist nation supportaing retards trying to debate Jordan is NOT in the middle East but its ASIA!
OMG piss poor dumb fukcers go suck Osama's cock!!! Alah Ackbar!

God is great because Newbies keep getting dumber and dumber. I swear its true. I mean I used to slam newbs that were a challange a cuople years ago. But this new wave of newbs is the biggest bunch of retards I have ever encountered to date.

Ya wanna talk about Jordan as not being a Middle Eastern Nation and say that its an Asian Nation thats fine, call it what ever you want but the truth is Jordan is one of those dumb ass Nations that have no fucking care for the world and would rather blow things up than actually help.

YOU calling ME newb??? :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 01-02-2005 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by donnie
YOU calling ME newb??? :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Yup...
Straight up...
If you were sombody ya wouldnt be dumb enough to hide like a little bitch with no sig, no WEB ID and a lousy 750 posts.

Your a newb dude.
Sorry...

But consider yourself lucky cuz school is in session for you little whinners.

donnie 01-02-2005 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ
Ya wanna talk about Jordan as not being a Middle Eastern Nation and say that its an Asian Nation thats fine, call it what ever you want but the truth is Jordan is one of those dumb ass Nations that have no fucking care for the world and would rather blow things up than actually help.

Could be, but you are one of those dumb ass idiots who thinks Middle East is a continent.

DarkLord 01-02-2005 04:40 PM

lol, you are funny guy. so, if I tell that Jordan is a part of Asia it means I support terrorists. wow. :1orglaugh

donnie 01-02-2005 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkLord
lol, you are funny guy. so, if I tell that Jordan is a part of Asia it means I support terrorists. wow. :1orglaugh


:1orglaugh

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 01-02-2005 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkLord
lol, you are funny guy. so, if I tell that Jordan is a part of Asia it means I support terrorists. wow. :1orglaugh

Nah it means you just dont got a clue really.
This is a debate primer, so far you kinda suck.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 01-02-2005 04:45 PM

Lets have fun for a sec...

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10 Dollar galleries. Can I rape you?

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 01-02-2005 04:47 PM

I got over 5 gigs of content to be made for galleries, at 10 bucks each 20 pics per...

Think you can handle it?

DarkLord 01-02-2005 04:49 PM

hmm. free site is not a gallery. :Graucho

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Originally Posted by AlienQ
If you were sombody ya wouldnt be dumb enough to hide like a little bitch with no sig, no WEB ID and a lousy 750 posts.

I've heard that some people work while others are making thousands of posts on gfy talking that all arabs must die except those ones who live in USA.

Rochard 01-02-2005 04:50 PM

This raises a valid point. The US got bashed because it didn't give enough (although I wonder how much it costs the US to have an Aircraft Carrier Batter Group on station on a daily basis)......

Why hasn't other countries in the Middle East given money? While I'm bluring the lines here a bit, why hasn't Egypt, Syria, Pakastan, Jordan, and India coughed up some money?

Isn't Indonesia one of the biggest Muslim areas in the world?

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 01-02-2005 04:52 PM

Thats the Irony I am trying to point out. Some of these delusional dimwits would rather talk about Jordan being a part of Asia. Let me know if any people on Jordan land saw the tsunami when it happened.

jimmyf 01-02-2005 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ
Awe...
Can't hang with the truth?

you bad boy

Workshop_Willy 01-02-2005 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Corleone
whats with africa, south america ?!

looks like you waited already for a situation like this so you can raise the finger and say.. everybody look at these bad muslims.. :2 cents:

Question: Just how far up your ass do you have your head, anyway?

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 01-02-2005 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmyf
you bad boy

Pardon me, I just am kickin up shit with the newbies to sharpen there skills.

Its for there own good.

DarkLord 01-02-2005 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by RocHard
This raises a valid point. The US got bashed because it didn't give enough (although I wonder how much it costs the US to have an Aircraft Carrier Batter Group on station on a daily basis)......

Why hasn't other countries in the Middle East given money? While I'm bluring the lines here a bit, why hasn't Egypt, Syria, Pakastan, Jordan, and India coughed up some money?

Isn't Indonesia one of the biggest Muslim areas in the world?

the common problem for most americans is that you don't know anything about the world outside US, but you think you do.

India is one of the countries suffered from tsunami. Syria, Pakistan, Egypt - they don't have millions dollars to share. but it doesn't mean they do not help though. maybe your tv just forgot to tell you about that.

jimmyf 01-02-2005 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by RocHard
This raises a valid point. The US got bashed because it didn't give enough (although I wonder how much it costs the US to have an Aircraft Carrier Batter Group on station on a daily basis)......

Why hasn't other countries in the Middle East given money? While I'm bluring the lines here a bit, why hasn't Egypt, Syria, Pakastan, Jordan, and India coughed up some money?

Isn't Indonesia one of the biggest Muslim areas in the world?

Indonesia has more Muslim's than any other country

jimmyf 01-02-2005 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Workshop_Willy
Question: Just how far up your ass do you have your head, anyway?

from what I've seen on this board, don't think you could find it. :upsidedow

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 01-02-2005 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkLord
the common problem for most americans is that you don't know anything about the world outside US, but you think you do.

India is one of the countries suffered from tsunami. Syria, Pakistan, Egypt - they don't have millions dollars to share. but it doesn't mean they do not help though. maybe your tv just forgot to tell you about that.

So your saying the people of those countries are all broke and cant afford it?
I call bullshit.

If elements of those countries can fund terrorists to mobilise against The United States and the nations that benefit the world then they can actually help.

However throughout history Islamic nations have held steadfast to the principal of there laws and won't ever help people in need. It is a creed of Strict Islamic Law not to help those in need but to help those in need under salvation with the promis to place faith in Allah.

I do hope a realisation occurs in people that read this.
The realisation is the fact that the "Co-exhistance" in Islamic law does not exhist, and that is why Arabic/Muslim nations have no future.

donnie 01-02-2005 05:16 PM

[QUOTE=AlienQ]
However throughout history Islamic nations have held steadfast to the principal of there laws and won't ever help people in need. It is a creed of Strict Islamic Law not to help those in need but to help those in need under salvation with the promis to place faith in Allah.
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Wow. You belive Middle East is a continent and YOU are giving us a history lesson...

MetaMan 01-02-2005 05:18 PM

arabs are cheap (unless they sell drugs), what else are we trying to find out?

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 01-02-2005 05:20 PM

Poor Donnie you dumb bitch...

I referred to Jordan as being a middle eastern region. Get with the program.
I tell ya what I will give 100.00 PayPal if you just read the thread and comprehend what I am saying.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 01-02-2005 05:21 PM

Looks like the 100 is mine...

You cant read.

DarkLord 01-02-2005 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ
So your saying the people of those countries are all broke and cant afford it?

no. I said they can't afford spending such a big sum like US or EU.

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Originally Posted by AlienQ
If elements of those countries can fund terrorists to mobilise against The United States and the nations that benefit the world then they can actually help.

"Element of the country" is not the country in the whole. and btw, Saudi Arabia supports terrorists too. but as officially they're friends of US you consider them to be very good guys, right?

2Pac 01-02-2005 05:26 PM

Arabs :thumbsup

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 01-02-2005 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkLord
no. I said they can't afford spending such a big sum like US or EU.
Why is that? Could it be they are to busy funding training terrorists?
I think thats the case. They call us crusaders and murder's but really..
Who is the crusader and murderer of innocent people in the name of god??

America does it for gain, business and the benefit of all. The hand is there, the modern world puts its hands out to everyone that would look to see it.

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Originally Posted by DarkLord
"Element of the country" is not the country in the whole. and btw, Saudi Arabia supports terrorists too. but as officially they're friends of US you consider them to be very good guys, right?

Same arguement as above. The elements of rogue nations are in control, A Countries failure to control there own people is simply an excuse in the eyes of all humanity. The laws of those countries do not permit compassion for the suffering.

Workshop_Willy 01-02-2005 05:37 PM

Arab "Nations" are for the most part arbitrarily delineated entities. The British had a lot to do with this during the waning years of their colonial period. In addition, some of these borders were also altered arbitrarily by the most powerful world leaders after the close of WWI. Culturally and politically (from and Arab point of view that is) the borders make almost no sense. Moreover, it has been in almost every other nation's perceived self interest to deter the creation of Muslim states.

Given these circumstances, I fail to see how "Arab Nations" can be held accountable through the paradigm of Islamic unity in the relief effort. It's a sexy argument, but ultimately a specious one.

Maybe it would be better to examine the actions of Iran in this relief effort than to throw all Arab governments into one pile and light it on fire.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 01-02-2005 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Workshop_Willy
Arab "Nations" are for the most part arbitrarily delineated entities. The British had a lot to do with this during the waning years of their colonial period. In addition, some of these borders were also altered arbitrarily by the most powerful world leaders after the close of WWI. Culturally and politically (from and Arab point of view that is) the borders make almost no sense. Moreover, it has been in almost every other nation's perceived self interest to deter the creation of Muslim states.

Given these circumstances, I fail to see how "Arab Nations" can be held accountable through the paradigm of Islamic unity in the relief effort. It's a sexy argument, but ultimately a specious one.

Maybe it would be better to examine the actions of Iran in this relief effort than to throw all Arab governments into one pile and light it on fire.

Woa!
Intelligence! I am impressed:)

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 01-02-2005 05:38 PM

Now read above.

Why dispite these "Colonial" lines is it that these "Islamic countries" have no compassion for the suffering without bowing to Allah first?

Its a flaw in the very core of the belief.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 01-02-2005 05:44 PM

IN America it's OK if you worship Allah, its OK if your a catholic, its OK if your Jewish, its OK if your a Satanist.

There is an element of co-exhistance in the freedom based system that the modern world embraces while a segment wishes to destroy any that oppose the balance of co-exhistant thought.

Allah is only merciful to those who bow in allegiance.

http://www.submission.org/images/mir4.jpg

Can you read this?

donnie 01-02-2005 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ
Poor Donnie you dumb bitch...

I referred to Jordan as being a middle eastern region. Get with the program.
I tell ya what I will give 100.00 PayPal if you just read the thread and comprehend what I am saying.

http://redcoat.net/pics/world_according_to_america.jpg

Workshop_Willy 01-02-2005 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ
Now read above.

Why dispite these "Colonial" lines is it that these "Islamic countries" have no compassion for the suffering without bowing to Allah first?

Its a flaw in the very core of the belief.

Many of these countries, most of them in fact, are secular. Aside from Iran (correct me if I'm wrong) there are no "Islamic countries" in the Middle East, at least not Islamic governments. Maybe you should check to see what the Red Crescent has done. I haven't checked, and maybe they've done nothing. Maybe they've done alot. My point is simply that you need to think of these countries as secular countries, not religious ones. And given that fact, it is not possible to make a valid connection regarding moral obligation to help other muslims, at least not at the government level.

That being said, the United States government does something that I think is even greater than giving aid -- which is to keep as low a profile as it is possible to keep about giving that aid. In other words, the US government doesn't appear to be into the whole kudos thing when it comes to this. They see a chance to help people in need and they do it without bragging all over the place. That's the real contribution, IMHO.

By the way, Islam is actually a very peaceful religion as practiced by the VAST majority of it's adherents. Comparing the actions of a few idiotic hotheads with guns to Islam as a whole is exactly like pointing at the KKK and saying it represents Christianity.

DarkLord 01-02-2005 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ
America does it for gain, business and the benefit of all.

every thing America does is for benefit of America. not sure what you meant talking "all" though.

sorry, can't disput with you about the history of Islam and muslim countries as my English isn't good enough to teach you the history and geografy. I can't say thal I like muslims, but I can understand why they don't like you.

have a nice day. gonna go to sleep now.

DarkLord 01-02-2005 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by donnie

exactly! :thumbsup
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Antonio 01-02-2005 06:03 PM

For all of you too lazy to read the whole thread I'll sum it up:
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Originally Posted by AlienQ
Muslim and Arab Nations have not lifted a finger.


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Originally Posted by xclusive

Saudi pledges $10 mln in aid to Tsunami victims

Neighbouring Gulf country Kuwait has pledged a little over $2 million in aid.

The United Arab Emirates will donate 30 tonnes of food, blankets and clothing to the victims.

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Originally Posted by donnie
Jordan IS Asia you stupid fuck!


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Originally Posted by AlienQ


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Originally Posted by AlienQ
Geography lessons are over...

I never said Jordan was NOT in "Asia".


AlienQ, you're an idiot!

MBS Auto 01-02-2005 06:05 PM

Arab nations do not want anything to do with the US.... As a matter of fact most Europeans also HATE americans.... :helpme


But they still eat our Big Macs and French Fries :1orglaugh

DarkLord 01-02-2005 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Workshop_Willy
Many of these countries, most of them in fact, are secular. Aside from Iran (correct me if I'm wrong) there are no "Islamic countries" in the Middle East, at least not Islamic governments. Maybe you should check to see what the Red Crescent has done. I haven't checked, and maybe they've done nothing. Maybe they've done alot. My point is simply that you need to think of these countries as secular countries, not religious ones. And given that fact, it is not possible to make a valid connection regarding moral obligation to help other muslims, at least not at the government level.

By the way, Islam is actually a very peaceful religion as practiced by the VAST majority of it's adherents. Comparing the actions of a few idiotic hotheads with guns to Islam as a whole is exactly like pointing at the KKK and saying it represents Christianity.

:thumbsup

QuaWee 01-02-2005 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienQ
IN America it's OK if you worship Allah, its OK if your a catholic, its OK if your Jewish, its OK if your a Satanist.

There is an element of co-exhistance in the freedom based system that the modern world embraces while a segment wishes to destroy any that oppose the balance of co-exhistant thought.

Allah is only merciful to those who bow in allegiance.

http://www.submission.org/images/mir4.jpg

Can you read this?

what does being able to read that have to do with what you are talking about?

QuaWee 01-02-2005 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Antonio




AlienQ, you're an idiot!

yeap, that about sums up this whole thread :thumbsup

Antonio 01-02-2005 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by MBS Auto
Arab nations do not want anything to do with the US.... As a matter of fact most Europeans also HATE americans.... :helpme


But they still eat our Big Macs and French Fries :1orglaugh

You mean freedom fries ;)

QuaWee 01-02-2005 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Workshop_Willy
Arab "Nations" are for the most part arbitrarily delineated entities. The British had a lot to do with this during the waning years of their colonial period. In addition, some of these borders were also altered arbitrarily by the most powerful world leaders after the close of WWI. Culturally and politically (from and Arab point of view that is) the borders make almost no sense. Moreover, it has been in almost every other nation's perceived self interest to deter the creation of Muslim states.

Given these circumstances, I fail to see how "Arab Nations" can be held accountable through the paradigm of Islamic unity in the relief effort. It's a sexy argument, but ultimately a specious one.

Maybe it would be better to examine the actions of Iran in this relief effort than to throw all Arab governments into one pile and light it on fire.

I could not agree more. I get sick of hearing "Islamic Suicide Bombers". That is a oxymoron, Muslims do not commit suicide and suicide is condemned in the Quran. People in every religion have a person or a group of people who use religion to form their own social norms for their personal benefit.

Workshop_Willy 01-02-2005 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Workshop_Willy
Originally Posted by Workshop_Willy
Many of these countries, most of them in fact, are secular. Aside from Iran (correct me if I'm wrong) there are no "Islamic countries" in the Middle East, at least not Islamic governments. Maybe you should check to see what the Red Crescent has done. I haven't checked, and maybe they've done nothing. Maybe they've done alot. My point is simply that you need to think of these countries as secular countries, not religious ones. And given that fact, it is not possible to make a valid connection regarding moral obligation to help other muslims, at least not at the government level.

By the way, Islam is actually a very peaceful religion as practiced by the VAST majority of it's adherents. Comparing the actions of a few idiotic hotheads with guns to Islam as a whole is exactly like pointing at the KKK and saying it represents Christianity.

- Darklord forgot to include the entire thing. He left out: "That being said, the United States government does something that I think is even greater than giving aid -- which is to keep as low a profile as it is possible to keep about giving that aid. In other words, the US government doesn't appear to be into the whole kudos thing when it comes to this. They see a chance to help people in need and they do it without bragging all over the place. That's the real contribution, IMHO."

It seems, like most America-bashers, that Darklord has a selective conscience.

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Originally Posted by DarkLord
:thumbsup


DarkLord 01-02-2005 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Workshop_Willy

It seems, like most America-bashers, that Darklord has a selective conscience.

I just noted the things I agree with and deleted the things I don't agree with. is it better now?


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